Thor/Sentry/WWH/ vs. BlackAdam/Orion/Lobo

Ok here's my two cents.... The Hulk is no Joke Marvel writers have just proclaimed WW Hulk to be the most powerful incarnation of the character, even more powerful than when he became mind-wiped by Jean grey in order to take down Onslaught's physical form. That typically makes him Lobo's superior in all ways, unless someone believes that his chains will hold the Hulk.

Sentry went at it with nearly the entire mutant race rolled up into one guy.... and he looked as if he may he won if not for BFR (via wormhole) I'm almost certain Black Adam would have died in such a confrontation. Sentry also defeated the Void (no small feat). Thor went toe to toe with Superman he lost but Superman looked pretty drained at the end of the fight. Drained enough for the rest of the team (Hercules, She Hulk, Vision, Wonderman, Iron Man, etc) to take him apart.... Uhmmm... didn't the Savage Hulk take all of these guys on around issue 314-320 nearly killing Namor in the process.... so let's recap Hulk is stronger than that now. as for Thor vs Orion, if he somehow gets into trouble Sentry and the Hulk wouldn't be tied up for long.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Ok here's my two cents.... The Hulk is no Joke Marvel writers have just proclaimed WW Hulk to be the most powerful incarnation of the character, even more powerful than when he became mind-wiped by Jean grey in order to take down Onslaught's physical form. That typically makes him Lobo's superior in all ways, unless someone believes that his chains will hold the Hulk.

Sentry went at it with nearly the entire mutant race rolled up into one guy.... and he looked as if he may he won if not for BFR (via wormhole) I'm almost certain Black Adam would have died in such a confrontation. Sentry also defeated the Void (no small feat). Thor went toe to toe with Superman he lost but Superman looked pretty drained at the end of the fight. Drained enough for the rest of the team (Hercules, She Hulk, Vision, Wonderman, Iron Man, etc) to take him apart.... Uhmmm... didn't the Savage Hulk take all of these guys on around issue 314-320 nearly killing Namor in the process.... so let's recap Hulk is stronger than that now. as for Thor vs Orion, if he somehow gets into trouble Sentry and the Hulk wouldn't be tied up for long.

Superior, to Lobo? hysterical Two words. Speed kills. Lobo is freaking fast. And his healing factor may be better than Hulk's. and the blood clones, unkillability, superman level strength........ and those chains have held Supes, they'll hold Hulk long enough for Lobo to wreck him. 🙄

Sentry does not have the feats to compete with anyone on Team 2. He's not fast enough, or strong enough.

Supes was fighting like an idiot, but I agree that Thor can go toe to toe with him. However, Orion can take a majority from Superman relatively easily. He is fast enough to not be blitzed, impenetrable forcefield (never broken, has deflected the OE!), a godly healing factor, motherbox, the Astro Force, etc.

Thor will last awhile, since his hammer is very powerful and excellent at absorbing energy, but reflecting the AF back at Orion is useless. He'll just re-absorb it and amp himself with it. Or he could something similar to what Magneto and Graviton did and put a magna-lock on the hammer. 😄

Black Adam is the weakest gun, and he would still decimate Hulk, definitely draw with Sentry, and keep Thor busy enough that the others would dispose of Hulk and then gank the rest.

Team 2 is vastly superior, and Quanchi is the worst debator on the forum. And Uni's opinion isn't that good.

Uni: If you think Black Adam takes a majority from Orion, you are an idiot. 😛

Uhmmm... didn't Lobo go a round with Captain Marvel? His showing wasn't that impressive. Superman broke Lobo's chains with ease while being possessed by Eclipso, Lobo was knocked out in the next instant. The Hulk would do the same, unless you think Lobo could take out Onslaught too. The Hulk isn't that slow either remember he jumps to the point of flying. A sprinters most powerful weapon on the track is his powerful legs and shoulders, my point is this... Logically speaking the Hulk should be able run at very high speeds 300 mph or better. Once again anyone that can stalemate nearly the entire mutant race is tough enough to take out Black Adam. You can choose to ignore the facts that were written or you could go with your favorite characters. Lobo is one of my favorite characters, but he has never been in the same class as guys like Pitt or the Hulk, their way too feral for him to compensate. The Hulk of late has shown that he is a much better fighter than Lobo, if you cared to notice what he did to Juggernaut in their last meeting, I could have sworn he gave him a Thai Knee to the stomach. Bruce Lee acknowledged that there were guys that were indeed faster than him, but speed, and fighting ability are two different things.

Lobo may not be able to die, but he can be knocked out.

When the Silver Surfer crushed Orion was it canon?

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
When the Silver Surfer crushed Orion was it canon?

Hell no. And I would call PIS if it was canon. Orion should take Surfer for a majority.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Uhmmm... didn't Lobo go a round with Captain Marvel? His showing wasn't that impressive. Superman broke Lobo's chains with ease while being possessed by Eclipso, Lobo was knocked out in the next instant. The Hulk would do the same, unless you think Lobo could take out Onslaught too. The Hulk isn't that slow either remember he jumps to the point of flying. A sprinters most powerful weapon on the track is his powerful legs and shoulders, my point is this... Logically speaking the Hulk should be able run at very high speeds 300 mph or better. Once again anyone that can stalemate nearly the entire mutant race is tough enough to take out Black Adam. You can choose to ignore the facts that were written or you could go with your favorite characters. Lobo is one of my favorite characters, but he has never been in the same class as guys like Pitt or the Hulk, their way too feral for him to compensate. The Hulk of late has shown that he is a much better fighter than Lobo, if you cared to notice what he did to Juggernaut in their last meeting, I could have sworn he gave him a Thai Knee to the stomach. Bruce Lee acknowledged that there were guys that were indeed faster than him, but speed, and fighting ability are two different things.

Come on, losing to someone possesed by Eclipso isn't a low showing. 🙄 Eclipso used to have Spectre's job. Wtf are you talking about saying that Lobo isn't in the same class as Pitt or Hulk? 🤨 He is most definitely in their class.

Juggernaut is STILL depowered. And Lobo is one of the meanest brawlers in comics. And all the fighting ability in the world won't mean jack if you can't hit your opponent.

Now thats what I wanted to read.... Captain Marvel had a very good showing against Superman while possessed by Eclipso, being able to catch Supes punch, he even told him with confidence that he would not be able to kill him. Captain Marvel is a little weaker than Black Adam, and could not be knocked out Lobo was. So this indicates that Lobo is the weak link here. Surfer did KO Orion and Galactus was about to eat Apokolips. Even if it was not canon if a confrontation occured between these guys the writers were in agreement that Surfer would eat Orion. Yet when Surfer fought Thor it was a stalemate.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Now thats what I wanted to read.... Captain Marvel had a very good showing against Superman while possessed by Eclipso, being able to catch Supes punch, he even told him with confidence that he would not be able to kill him. Captain Marvel is a little weaker than Black Adam, and could not be knocked out Lobo was. So this indicates that Lobo is the weak link here. Surfer did KO Orion and Galactus was about to eat Apokolips. Even if it was not canon if a confrontation occured between these guys the writers were in agreement that Surfer would eat Orion. Yet when Surfer fought Thor it was a stalemate.

That would be Marvel's magic helping him out there.

2nd: 👇 If you actually take that bullshit as canon or in any way a realistic interpretation of how a fight between them would go down, then you know nothing of Orion. Those writers were ****ing idiots.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Superior, to Lobo? hysterical Two words. Speed kills. Lobo is freaking fast. And his healing factor may be better than Hulk's. and the blood clones, unkillability, superman level strength........ and those chains have held Supes, they'll hold Hulk long enough for Lobo to wreck him. 🙄

Sentry does not have the feats to compete with anyone on Team 2. He's not fast enough, or strong enough.

Supes was fighting like an idiot, but I agree that Thor can go toe to toe with him. However, Orion can take a majority from Superman relatively easily. He is fast enough to not be blitzed, impenetrable forcefield (never broken, has deflected the OE!), a godly healing factor, motherbox, the Astro Force, etc.

Thor will last awhile, since his hammer is very powerful and excellent at absorbing energy, but reflecting the AF back at Orion is useless. He'll just re-absorb it and amp himself with it. Or he could something similar to what Magneto and Graviton did and put a magna-lock on the hammer. 😄

Black Adam is the weakest gun, and he would still decimate Hulk, definitely draw with Sentry, and keep Thor busy enough that the others would dispose of Hulk and then gank the rest.

Team 2 is vastly superior, and Quanchi is the worst debator on the forum. And Uni's opinion isn't that good.

Uni: If you think Black Adam takes a majority from Orion, you are an idiot. 😛

Wow.

Sentry can't take a majority from Lobo, who has more up and downs than Wolverine?

Lobo is being touted for his speed too?

Orion can't be beaten by Teth?

Funny, i recall Teth handling him in the comics, which is where we take our cues from.

And lol at Orion taking the majority from Superman easily.

Solo series Orion, likely.

But too bad that's not where all his appearances come from.

You don't seem to realize, that if Sentry felt he was having trouble with Orion, he'd likely zoom him to the sun faster than Orion can say "whelp" and toss him into it..........and we know how Orion deals with heat.

Your post lost all credibility the moment you put Lobo above Teth and on the same level as Superman.

All credibility.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Hell no. And I would call PIS if it was canon. Orion should take Surfer for a majority.

Come on, losing to someone possesed by Eclipso isn't a low showing. 🙄 Eclipso used to have Spectre's job. Wtf are you talking about saying that Lobo isn't in the same class as Pitt or Hulk? 🤨 He is most definitely in their class.

Juggernaut is STILL depowered. And Lobo is one of the meanest brawlers in comics. And all the fighting ability in the world won't mean jack if you can't hit your opponent.

lobo is so mean he once hurt his hand on ds face. superman once broke ds face. lobo is the weak link here followed by mr i struggle to get out of a titanimun box, orion. team marvel wins as black adam fights valiantly but eventually loses. hes only one guy.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Wow.

Sentry can't take a majority from Lobo, who has more up and downs than Wolverine?

Lobo is being touted for his speed too?

Orion can't be beaten by Teth?

Funny, i recall Teth handling him in the comics, which is where we take our cues from.

And lol at Orion taking the majority from Superman easily.

Solo series Orion, likely.

But too bad that's not where all his appearances come from.

You don't seem to realize, that if Sentry felt he was having trouble with Orion, he'd likely zoom him to the sun faster than Orion can say "whelp" and toss him into it..........and we know how Orion deals with heat.

Your post lost all credibility the moment you put Lobo above Teth and on the same level as Superman.

All credibility.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Superior, to Lobo? hysterical Two words. Speed kills. Lobo is freaking fast. And his healing factor may be better than Hulk's. and the blood clones, unkillability, superman level strength........ and those chains have held Supes, they'll hold Hulk long enough for Lobo to wreck him. 🙄

Sentry does not have the feats to compete with anyone on Team 2. He's not fast enough, or strong enough.

Supes was fighting like an idiot, but I agree that Thor can go toe to toe with him. However, Orion can take a majority from Superman relatively easily. He is fast enough to not be blitzed, impenetrable forcefield (never broken, has deflected the OE!), a godly healing factor, motherbox, the Astro Force, etc.

Thor will last awhile, since his hammer is very powerful and excellent at absorbing energy, but reflecting the AF back at Orion is useless. He'll just re-absorb it and amp himself with it. Or he could something similar to what Magneto and Graviton did and put a magna-lock on the hammer. 😄

Black Adam is the weakest gun, and he would still decimate Hulk, definitely draw with Sentry, and keep Thor busy enough that the others would dispose of Hulk and then gank the rest.

Team 2 is vastly superior, and Quanchi is the worst debator on the forum. And Uni's opinion isn't that good.

Uni: If you think Black Adam takes a majority from Orion, you are an idiot. 😛

Originally posted by quanchi112
orion isnt in the same league as silver surfer. ss wins a solid majority against orion. then and now. now orion is ajoke that loses to darkseid's hand wave. even with the ale orion couldnt kill ds. thats just plain weak.

lobo is so mean he once hurt his hand on ds face. superman once broke ds face. lobo is the weak link here followed by mr i struggle to get out of a titanimun box, orion. team marvel wins as black adam fights valiantly but eventually loses. hes only one guy.

Don't try to claim Surfer would do better. 🙄 He'd get slapped down faster than Orion did.

And Superman breaking Darkseid's face is a testament to his jobber aura, and nothing else. 😉

Orion was imprisoned by Firestorm. And Firestorm is very very uber right now. I'm fairly sure he could put Thor in a box too. 😄

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Don't try to claim Surfer would do better. 🙄 He'd get slapped down faster than Orion did.

And Superman breaking Darkseid's face is a testament to his jobber aura, and nothing else. 😉

Orion was imprisoned by Firestorm. And Firestorm is very very uber right now. I'm fairly sure he could put Thor in a box too. 😄

superman breaking ds face is a testament to how hard superman can hit. ds should duck next time.

imagine what surfer could do to orion if firestorm can just box him.

orion doesnt compare to silver surfer. not now or ever.

Originally posted by quanchi112
no he couldnt. what i argue is fact. ur retort is based on it would work on thor? how? it hasnt so quit talking about things that havent happened. it did happen to orion. orion went down like a joke to ds.

superman breaking ds face is a testament to how hard superman can hit. ds should duck next time.

imagine what surfer could do to orion if firestorm can just box him.

orion doesnt compare to silver surfer. not now or ever.

👆

Orion falls

Team 1. 7/10.

BUT if current Thor is fueled by Odinpower, I gives 12/10 to team 1.

Thor is the only threat on team 1 you guys are absolutely on drugs if you think a non jobing orion and unrestricted lobo go down to sentry and hulk,team 2 stomps.

Team 2.