The beast out of earth part 1.

The beast coming up out of earth.

The developing of the senses were the beast coming up from the sea, their spirit is this beast.
To develop the senses we had to go to a symbolic mountain, which acted as our God; it is not God but we have the hypothesis that it is God; the picture of God we received is; Deut. 4: 11; the mountain burned with fire unto the midst of heaven, with darkness, clouds and thick darkness. This is a clear picture of Satan, God of earth.
The meaning of the darkness and clouds is symbolically that we don’t understand and that we look only through a vague picture of understanding of God. At that stage we didn’t had the ability of imagination we were only sensory. While we are mortal Satan rules as our God, namely all physical powers rule.
We also had the instruction of; sets bounds about the mountain and sanctify it. The bounds = the Ten Commandments that say; you shall not….
We shall only touch the mountain when the seventh trumpet souds, according to the bible.

Once the senses were fully developed we had to progress further and for this reason we received not a mountain as hypothesis to sanctify but a man called Jesus. To become like him was the purpose and by way of that we sanctify our God and our-selves. Now we could “see” God. This picture was not as vague as mount Horeb but much more “zoomed in.”
This era is symbolically the second room of the tabernackle of Moses or the beast coming up from the earth. While with the first room or forecourt, only a priest could enter the Holy room to bring conciliation for the sins of our senses by way of taking the slaughtered bull’s blood into this room and place it on the four horns inside this room, a symbol of the four commands we transgress. The bull was symbolically slaughtered instead of us. This room is also a symbol of the first heaven, the heaven of senses.
With the coming of Jesus “he” replaced the bull as the slaughtered one, although this is also only a hypothesis of the real truth. He is in fact the present golden calf to be worshipped.
He is the birth of Isaac the one to be slaughtered on Moria, but God made provision. The meaning of Moria = God provided. The second room is where your soul is created. The ark is a symbol of your body and the second room is symbolically from your penis to the lips and this part of your body holds the heart (soul), the lungs, the kidneys etc. The penis or circumcision symbolizes the veil between the forecourt ond the Holy room.

Jesus opened the second heaven to us. His coming is the opening of the sixth seal, the blowing of the sixth trumpet or the opening of the spiritual eye. Rev. 6: 14 the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together.
The old heaven departed and a new one was rolled open namely the second heaven of imagination, the spiritual eye.

The statement of Jesu’s mission is; Luke 12:49 and 51.
I am come TO SEND FIRE ON THE EARTH ---
SUPPOSE YE THAT I AM COME TO GIVE PEACE ON EARTH?
I TELL YOU NO, BUT RATHER DEVISION. (Confusion.) See Gen. 11:7.
Fire is the symbol of an earthly spirit, which Jesus brought namely the Holy Ghost.
Jesus is Lucifer in his own words he said; I am the morning star. Lucifer has the meaning of bearer of light/the word as stated in John 1. We all confess that Jesus descended to hell. Earth = this hell a place of darkness where the soul suffers according to the bible.

Jesus told us that his name will disappear and that he is not the one to build the temple for he is the root of David and his duty is to lay the foundation of the temple. The branch still to come will build the temple see; See Zach 3:8 and 6:12. The branch is the one to lead you into the next and final room namely the Holy of Holy room. This is symbolically the third heaven

The fall of the Morning Star Jesus, have three phases namely, the sixth, the seventh and the eight beasts. See Rev. 17:10-11. The dragon born on mounts Horeb now retreats and give his power to Jesus. Jesus now receives the power of the ten horns and seven heads.

The first phase of the beast that came out of earth.

Jesus came to fulfill the law; he did not come to destroy the law. Math. 5:17.
I say; he did not come to destroy the red dragon but to give it even more power.
The first phase or the sixth beast was when Jesus walked visibly on the earth, and claimed himself as the Son of God and our eyes opened for the visible God.
The dragon gave him his power and his seat and great authority. Rev 13:2-5.

Under the supervision of Moses, the red dragon gave the Israelites, water (spirit) out of a “rock”, manna in the desert, gave them victory in many wars etc. but now Jesus received the power and seat of the red dragon.
The dragon who was born at Horeb now retreated and gave its power to Jesus, and this then was the fall of the fifth king for this king gave its seat to Jesus the sixth king.

I say; Moses priest of the forecourt made way for the priest Jesus in the Holy room to bring the commandments to fulfillment.
I say; Moses the fifth king, the king of hearing made way for the sixth king the king of sight.
I say; the power of the forecourt/the dragon, were “passed over” to this walking beast that had one horn with eyes of a man and a mouth speaking great things, namely Jesus. Dan.7:8. this is symbolized by the last supper or Passover.

He proclaimed himself as the Son of God and all people followed the beast with the seven heads and ten horns, and on his head a name of blasphemy namely; I am the Son of God. Rev 13:1.
THE WHOLE WORLD FOLLOWED THIS BEAST. See. Rev 13:3.

Jesus now carries the seven heads with ten horns.
Rev.13:3. I saw one of his (seven) heads as it were wounded to death ----
What does this mean and which one of the seven heads were wounded?
It is the head with the four horns that became one horn that was wounded.
I say; it is the head with the one horn with eyes of a man and a mouth speaking great things, namely it is talking about Jesus.

Dan.7:8. ---- behold, there came up among them (among the ten horns) another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots ---
This say; three horns/commands were completely ignored, transgressed and one horn was made out of the four horns.
We already explained that one head had four horns, or commandments, namely the first four commandments.
The three horns (commandments) that we plucked up by the roots, are the second, third and fourth commandments namely;
The first commandment; I am the LORD thy God, thou shall have no other gods before me.
The second commandment; thou shall not make unto thee any graven image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath or that is in the water under the earth.
The third commandment; thou shall not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.
The forth commandment; thou shall not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain.
These last three commandments were plucked, ignored, transgressed and one horn (one command) were formed namely; the first command that say; I Jesus am the Lord thy God ----

Jesus is therefore this head with the one horn, and with eyes and mouth of a man and he said; I am the Lord your God follow me, “worship” me.
Rev.13: 3 ------ this head (Jesus) was wounded to death ---
He was “captured” and crucified and buried.
This head with the one horn, with eyes and a mouth of a man, HAS DIED.
On that same moment of death the fifth angel sounded, and a star fell from heaven unto earth and unto him was given the key of the bottomless pit (hell/the grave, he rolled the stone back to open the hell for the seventh beast --- the one that came out of the grave/the earth.) See Rev. 9:1-2.
The followers of the fifth, the sixth, the seventh and the eighth beast go to perdition according to the bible. To go to perdition, does not mean to go to hell and burn forever as we have preached it all these years, for you are in hell, it simply means that you get old and die the way we know it to be.

Also on that same instant of death on the cross the veil in the temple was rent in two from the top to the bottom. See Math. 27: 51.
What does this mean?
The sounding of the fifth angel symbolizes the first heaven, the heaven of the five senses where Moses took us. The forecourt also symbolizes this heaven, but now with the renting of the veil in the temple the second heaven opened or, we entered the holy room.

The death of this sixth beast on the cross-opened the next, the second heaven for human, BECAUSE THE VEIL HAS OPENED to the next heaven.
During this period before the crucifixion, Jesus himself introduced the Supper of the Lord, the sop of betrayal to the human. The Lords supper is a symbolic eating flesh with its blood and is forbidden by the law. The law says you shall not eat blood in any manner, not even symbolically. With the opening of the veil to the next room the circumcision becomes obsolete, because the circumcision was a covenent of the senses, a cut into the senses.

The second phase of the beast, the seventh king.

The second phase or the seventh king, started when Jesus rose out of the grave, when the grave opened.
Rev. 9:1. I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
Math. 28:2 ----- for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven and came down and rolled back the stone from the door (of the grave to open it).
Verse 3 ---- his countenance was like lightning ----
Luke. 10:18 ----- I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Rev. 13:3 ---- his deadly wound was healed -----
His deadly wound was healed, for he rose/came to life again.
The grave/the pit/the hell opened, for the “stone” that kept the doors of hell closed were opened on the third day after the crucifixion.
This beast, the sixth king, had the keys to open the pit of hell. Rev. 9:1. He said he would rise again.

The moment of death and/or the moment when the grave opened (Luke. 23:46), was the moment of birth for the sixth angel.
Death and life is exactly at the same moment and cannot be separated.
It was the opening of the 2nd heaven when the veil rented from top to bottom. Math.27: 51.

The moment of resurrection out of the grave was the moment of ascension of this king into heaven. Mark. 16:19.
This is the first resurrection, the resurrection of the soul, the birth of the soul, and the birth of Satan’s sixth spirit, and the birth of the No 66 the antichrist.
We can say; before the death of Jesus on the cross we received the No 6, and with the resurrection we received the No 66.
These No’s symbolize the ability of the human brain.

In this new room, the Holy room, called Jesus or sanctuary, we pay with the death and blood of our own body as the culprit to die for each and every one’s sin.

This seventh king or beast that came out of the earth would according to scripture only be for a short while. See Rev. 13:11 and 17:10.
The rule of this king only lasted the period from where the beast came out of the grave until his ascension, which is until the imagination took over.
We have the hypothesis that it took 40 days.

What does this ascension means?
It means that (the spirit of) the soul ascended unto heaven.
It means that the Holy Ghost ascended unto heaven.

The resurrection/opening of the grave is the beast coming up out of the earth. Rev.13: 11.

Rev. 13:11. ---- he had two horns like a lamb -----
It says, like a lamb for he is not the lamb, we are the Lamb.
The beast coming up out of the earth is the beast that received a wound by a sword and did live. Rev. 13:14.
He received the sword wound while hanging on the cross. John. 19:34.

The right hand of God is his Word. The ascension of the soul Jesus could only happen after the glorification of Jesus, meaning the glorification of the body that came out of the grave, because only then could the soul receive birth, or only then could the Holy Ghost receive birth or only then could the spirit of imagination received birth and rise.
John. 7:39. --- this spoke he of the spirit, which they that believe on him should receive; for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; BECAUSE Jesus was not yet glorified.
Why only then?
Because by glorifying the IMAGONARY ONE that came out of the grave, YOU started to develop the spirit of imagination = the Holy Ghost.
I say; imagination brought him out of the grave and you are his grave out of which he rose.

This makes it very clear that Adam became a living soul, ONLY after human started to worship Jesus.

This brings us to the next phase of the beast, namely the eight king. The sixth, seventh and eight kings or beast is the same beast, but it symbolizes the development of the human brain during three phases called the sixth, seventh and eighth beast.
You can clearly understand from this the low intellect of human being called a beast.

The third phase of the beast, the eight king.

This beast has the No 666, which indicates the intelligence or the human’s imagination. You are this beast; you are the antichrist FOR SIX IS THE NUMBER OF HUMAN and the antichrist.
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This is the top “floor” of intelligence of a mortal being. The next floor is immortality.

Although the ultimate No for human intelligence is 666, it took “2000 years” to reach this floor of intelligence as you now can “imagine”.
Imagination is the second most powerful spirit and creator in the universe.

For two thousand years this spirit had ALL POWER IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH. See Math. 28:18.
The sixth spirit is the creator of shape and form.

Rev. 13:12. He exercised all the power of the first beast before him and caused the earth and them that which dwell there in to worship the first beast (the one who died on the cross) who’s deadly wound was healed. (His “wound was healed because he came out of the grave”).
Verse. 14. He deceived them that dwell on the earth by means of those miracles which he had power to do in the (direct) sight of the beast (namely miracles visible to the naked eye) saying to them that dwell on the earth that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword and did live.
Can anyone deny that this verse speaks about Jesus?
Can anyone deny that we have preached to make an image to the beast that received the wound by a sword and came out of the grave?

Vers 13; He does great wonders, so that he make fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men (as Jesus said he would.)
Acts. 2:2-3.and suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind and it filled all the house where they were sitting and there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of FIRE and it sat upon each of them.
Verse 4. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost ----
From this we can understand that the fire = the Holy Ghost which = the soul.
Rev 13:15. He had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak ----
Some churches call it the baptism of the Holy Ghost, the speaking in tongues.
Acts 2:4 continue --- and began to speak with other tongues ----

The Holy Spirit is after all the spirit of the soul, the mental mind.
Rev. 13: 15 ----- he caused that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed ---
This is common preaching in some churches, that those who don’t worship this beast, (Jesus) will burn in an eternal hell.

Rev. 17:11. Every one who followed the beast, and that is EVERY ONE, goes to perdition.
What does it mean when it says; we go to perdition?
It has a simple meaning namely;
You get older each and every day, your “cells burns” away so to speak, and eventually you die – you return to dust.

WTF??? Why create two threads about the same subject 😠

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
WTF??? Why create two threads about the same subject 😠

He's still writing 3, 4 and 5. 😆

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
WTF??? Why create two threads about the same subject 😠

because it is to long for one post. if you find the bone i want to smell.

johannes where do u get these ideas from. i mean what are your sources? cause i dont believe you alone can interpret all that in the way you did. you probably follow some sort of sect/philosophy of christianity/group. i would like to know.

Originally posted by johannes
because it is to long for one post. if you find the bone i want to smell.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
johannes where do u get these ideas from. i mean what are your sources? cause i dont believe you alone can interpret all that in the way you did. you probably follow some sort of sect/philosophy of christianity/group. i would like to know.

if you know the bible you would know that that is my source.
why dont you believe that one person cant interpret this? the only thing i follow is the bible if you would call that a sect.
the things i say is the opening of a new spirit called the quickening spirit or the seventh trumpet or the opening of the seventh seal and i received it from Jesus Christ.

Originally posted by johannes
if you know the bible you would know that that is my source.
why dont you believe that one person cant interpret this? the only thing i follow is the bible if you would call that a sect.
the things i say is the opening of a new spirit called the quickening spirit or the seventh trumpet or the opening of the seventh seal and i received it from Jesus Christ.

So if you were to present a brief, summerised version what exactly are you trying to say in your first two posts?

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
So if you were to present a brief, summerised version what exactly are you trying to say in your first two posts?

do you mean my two posts of the beast out of the earth?
you should first read the beast out of the sea.
to summerise; the beast out of the sea is to give us knowledge about the origin of mankind namely we came up from the sea to become land animals. it tells you how the senses developed on earth after leaving the water. before this the universe had no knowledge or the use of; taste, smell, hearing, sight etc.
the first thing that developed on earth (not in water) was hearing and the bible describes this era as the birth of Ishmael the wild one killing others and others killing it. the next thing that developed was speach/sound. the ten commandments was the way to get the developing human to listen intelligently.

once this was done we needed something new, namely imagination. to develope this we were given a hypothesis of a super sinless human who died for our sins and then on the third day ascended to heaven. by way of preaching this we had to imagine this ascending, imagine because we never saw it happened, we only believe it to be true. by way of believing this we created what we believe, we gave birth to this imaginory God, which will soon be reality.
the truth is; we are this Christ who came to earth. the idea was that we would create these things and then we get rid of this temporary body and receive an immortal body. to create things or to give birth to things you have to worship it and this meant that we worshipped visible things like visible Gods, this of cause is sin if we believe that God = spirit. for this reason that it is sin our body dies instead of us, it takes the brunt instead of us and you are set free from your body. the picture of the cross is a picture of yourself, namely your body = this cross you carry, you die on this cross and only then you are released. the place where the crusifiction took place = calvary and the meaning of calvary = place in the scull; this place of cause is your brain where you were crusified to be woken up on the third day which starts after 2000 years, which is now.
however; we cant say that only church develped the brain or imagination, there are many other things like; school, science etc.
it is now that a new spirit or understanding will become availible to us, it will happen automatically, but if we understand what will happen it is so much better. there are exiting times ahead of us.

Wow.

Some of the things he's stating are actualy Gnostic belifes as well.

This really is an interesting view on those passages. We return to dust, just as the Jews and Jesus taught.

Number symbolism has always fascinated me, for 666 is man, 777 is completion, 888 is eternal supreme force, god minded and stuff. It could be speaking about the evolution of the human mind/intelligence/spirit.

Some others look at it as:

1 - unity, creation, independence

2 - duality, emergence

3 - power, generative force

4 - solidity, dullness5sensuality, pleasure

6 - perfection, harmony, balance

7 - mysticism, psychic, magic

8 - material, success, justice
9 - spiritual, mental achievement

These passages seem more mystic in nature.

Originally posted by johannes
do you mean my two posts of the beast out of the earth?
you should first read the beast out of the sea.
to summerise; the beast out of the sea is to give us knowledge about the origin of mankind namely we came up from the sea to become land animals. it tells you how the senses developed on earth after leaving the water. before this the universe had no knowledge or the use of; taste, smell, hearing, sight etc.
the first thing that developed on earth (not in water) was hearing and the bible describes this era as the birth of Ishmael the wild one killing others and others killing it. the next thing that developed was speach/sound. the ten commandments was the way to get the developing human to listen intelligently.

once this was done we needed something new, namely imagination. to develope this we were given a hypothesis of a super sinless human who died for our sins and then on the third day ascended to heaven. by way of preaching this we had to imagine this ascending, imagine because we never saw it happened, we only believe it to be true. by way of believing this we created what we believe, we gave birth to this imaginory God, which will soon be reality.
the truth is; we are this Christ who came to earth. the idea was that we would create these things and then we get rid of this temporary body and receive an immortal body. to create things or to give birth to things you have to worship it and this meant that we worshipped visible things like visible Gods, this of cause is sin if we believe that God = spirit. for this reason that it is sin our body dies instead of us, it takes the brunt instead of us and you are set free from your body. the picture of the cross is a picture of yourself, namely your body = this cross you carry, you die on this cross and only then you are released. the place where the crusifiction took place = calvary and the meaning of calvary = place in the scull; this place of cause is your brain where you were crusified to be woken up on the third day which starts after 2000 years, which is now.
however; we cant say that only church develped the brain or imagination, there are many other things like; school, science etc.
it is now that a new spirit or understanding will become availible to us, it will happen automatically, but if we understand what will happen it is so much better. there are exiting times ahead of us.

Jesus in Shit.

Originally posted by debbiejo
This really is an interesting view on those passages. We return to dust, just as the Jews and Jesus taught.

Number symbolism has always fascinated me, for 666 is man, 777 is completion, 888 is eternal supreme force, god minded and stuff. It could be speaking about the evolution of the human mind/intelligence/spirit.

Some others look at it as:

1 - unity, creation, independence

2 - duality, emergence

3 - power, generative force

4 - solidity, dullness5sensuality, pleasure

6 - perfection, harmony, balance

7 - mysticism, psychic, magic

8 - material, success, justice
9 - spiritual, mental achievement

These passages seem more mystic in nature.

currently we are in the world of 666. the No 6 is creator of form and shape and that is what we are doing now, creating form and shape of the future 777 world which nis a spiritual world while we are in a phisical world. shortly we will detect imortallity. the 888 world is a much more compacted world, bigger but more reachable if you have a look at the figure 8 you might understand it.

Originally posted by KMC.Chan
Jesus in Shit.

you are this Jesus, dont bless yourself.

Originally posted by johannes
The beast coming up out of earth.

The developing of the senses were the beast coming up from the sea, their spirit is this beast.
To develop the senses we had to go to a symbolic mountain, which acted as our God; it is not God but we have the hypothesis that it is God; the picture of God we received is; Deut. 4: 11; the mountain burned with fire unto the midst of heaven, with darkness, clouds and thick darkness. This is a clear picture of Satan, God of earth.
The meaning of the darkness and clouds is symbolically that we don’t understand and that we look only through a vague picture of understanding of God. At that stage we didn’t had the ability of imagination we were only sensory. While we are mortal Satan rules as our God, namely all physical powers rule.
We also had the instruction of; sets bounds about the mountain and sanctify it. The bounds = the Ten Commandments that say; you shall not….
We shall only touch the mountain when the seventh trumpet souds, according to the bible.

Once the senses were fully developed we had to progress further and for this reason we received not a mountain as hypothesis to sanctify but a man called Jesus. To become like him was the purpose and by way of that we sanctify our God and our-selves. Now we could “see” God. This picture was not as vague as mount Horeb but much more “zoomed in.”
This era is symbolically the second room of the tabernackle of Moses or the beast coming up from the earth. While with the first room or forecourt, only a priest could enter the Holy room to bring conciliation for the sins of our senses by way of taking the slaughtered bull’s blood into this room and place it on the four horns inside this room, a symbol of the four commands we transgress. The bull was symbolically slaughtered instead of us. This room is also a symbol of the first heaven, the heaven of senses.
With the coming of Jesus “he” replaced the bull as the slaughtered one, although this is also only a hypothesis of the real truth. He is in fact the present golden calf to be worshipped.
He is the birth of Isaac the one to be slaughtered on Moria, but God made provision. The meaning of Moria = God provided. The second room is where your soul is created. The ark is a symbol of your body and the second room is symbolically from your penis to the lips and this part of your body holds the heart (soul), the lungs, the kidneys etc. The penis or circumcision symbolizes the veil between the forecourt ond the Holy room.

Jesus opened the second heaven to us. His coming is the opening of the sixth seal, the blowing of the sixth trumpet or the opening of the spiritual eye. Rev. 6: 14 the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together.
The old heaven departed and a new one was rolled open namely the second heaven of imagination, the spiritual eye.

The statement of Jesu’s mission is; Luke 12:49 and 51.
I am come TO SEND FIRE ON THE EARTH ---
SUPPOSE YE THAT I AM COME TO GIVE PEACE ON EARTH?
I TELL YOU NO, BUT RATHER DEVISION. (Confusion.) See Gen. 11:7.
Fire is the symbol of an earthly spirit, which Jesus brought namely the Holy Ghost.
Jesus is Lucifer in his own words he said; I am the morning star. Lucifer has the meaning of bearer of light/the word as stated in John 1. We all confess that Jesus descended to hell. Earth = this hell a place of darkness where the soul suffers according to the bible.

Jesus told us that his name will disappear and that he is not the one to build the temple for he is the root of David and his duty is to lay the foundation of the temple. The branch still to come will build the temple see; See Zach 3:8 and 6:12. The branch is the one to lead you into the next and final room namely the Holy of Holy room. This is symbolically the third heaven

The fall of the Morning Star Jesus, have three phases namely, the sixth, the seventh and the eight beasts. See Rev. 17:10-11. The dragon born on mounts Horeb now retreats and give his power to Jesus. Jesus now receives the power of the ten horns and seven heads.

The first phase of the beast that came out of earth.

Jesus came to fulfill the law; he did not come to destroy the law. Math. 5:17.
I say; he did not come to destroy the red dragon but to give it even more power.
The first phase or the sixth beast was when Jesus walked visibly on the earth, and claimed himself as the Son of God and our eyes opened for the visible God.
The dragon gave him his power and his seat and great authority. Rev 13:2-5.

Under the supervision of Moses, the red dragon gave the Israelites, water (spirit) out of a “rock”, manna in the desert, gave them victory in many wars etc. but now Jesus received the power and seat of the red dragon.
The dragon who was born at Horeb now retreated and gave its power to Jesus, and this then was the fall of the fifth king for this king gave its seat to Jesus the sixth king.

I say; Moses priest of the forecourt made way for the priest Jesus in the Holy room to bring the commandments to fulfillment.
I say; Moses the fifth king, the king of hearing made way for the sixth king the king of sight.
I say; the power of the forecourt/the dragon, were “passed over” to this walking beast that had one horn with eyes of a man and a mouth speaking great things, namely Jesus. Dan.7:8. this is symbolized by the last supper or Passover.

He proclaimed himself as the Son of God and all people followed the beast with the seven heads and ten horns, and on his head a name of blasphemy namely; I am the Son of God. Rev 13:1.
THE WHOLE WORLD FOLLOWED THIS BEAST. See. Rev 13:3.

Jesus now carries the seven heads with ten horns.
Rev.13:3. I saw one of his (seven) heads as it were wounded to death ----
What does this mean and which one of the seven heads were wounded?
It is the head with the four horns that became one horn that was wounded.
I say; it is the head with the one horn with eyes of a man and a mouth speaking great things, namely it is talking about Jesus.

Dan.7:8. ---- behold, there came up among them (among the ten horns) another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots ---
This say; three horns/commands were completely ignored, transgressed and one horn was made out of the four horns.
We already explained that one head had four horns, or commandments, namely the first four commandments.
The three horns (commandments) that we plucked up by the roots, are the second, third and fourth commandments namely;
The first commandment; I am the LORD thy God, thou shall have no other gods before me.
The second commandment; thou shall not make unto thee any graven image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath or that is in the water under the earth.
The third commandment; thou shall not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.
The forth commandment; thou shall not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain.
These last three commandments were plucked, ignored, transgressed and one horn (one command) were formed namely; the first command that say; I Jesus am the Lord thy God ----

Jesus is therefore this head with the one horn, and with eyes and mouth of a man and he said; I am the Lord your God follow me, “worship” me.
Rev.13: 3 ------ this head (Jesus) was wounded to death ---
He was “captured” and crucified and buried.
This head with the one horn, with eyes and a mouth of a man, HAS DIED.
On that same moment of death the fifth angel sounded, and a star fell from heaven unto earth and unto him was given the key of the bottomless pit (hell/the grave, he rolled the stone back to open the hell for the seventh beast --- the one that came out of the grave/the earth.) See Rev. 9:1-2.
The followers of the fifth, the sixth, the seventh and the eighth beast go to perdition according to the bible. To go to perdition, does not mean to go to hell and burn forever as we have preached it all these years, for you are in hell, it simply means that you get old and die the way we know it to be.

Also on that same instant of death on the cross the veil in the temple was rent in two from the top to the bottom. See Math. 27: 51.
What does this mean?
The sounding of the fifth angel symbolizes the first heaven, the heaven of the five senses where Moses took us. The forecourt also symbolizes this heaven, but now with the renting of the veil in the temple the second heaven opened or, we entered the holy room.

The death of this sixth beast on the cross-opened the next, the second heaven for human, BECAUSE THE VEIL HAS OPENED to the next heaven.
During this period before the crucifixion, Jesus himself introduced the Supper of the Lord, the sop of betrayal to the human. The Lords supper is a symbolic eating flesh with its blood and is forbidden by the law. The law says you shall not eat blood in any manner, not even symbolically. With the opening of the veil to the next room the circumcision becomes obsolete, because the circumcision was a covenent of the senses, a cut into the senses.

Could you maybe cut it short and get to the point, Im not reading all that for gollads sake

I will @ some point but it better say something important to my life

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Could you maybe cut it short and get to the point, Im not reading all that for gollads sake

What the?!? There's a point to this?