Originally posted by Disappearin the cartoon i saw him breath in 1st really hard before he let it out so yah thats his own voice
ruckus' power relies on his processing and reproducing of other sounds, whereas characters like banshee, blackbolt and black canary produce the sounds themselves. they don't count as cheaters in the same sense, or really in any sense at all.
the guy still needs to expel air to create sound, but he's not using his natural voice. he's using a mutant-modified set of vocal chords capable of recreating sound relayed from his inner ear, only a thousand times louder. it's his voice, but it's not his sound. he couldn't do the same thing if there weren't sounds around for him to reproduce, which is not the same restriction other sonic-based characters face. so, he's kind of a cheater.
the animated series, by the way, isn't a comic book. and this is a comic forum. so, if you want to use the character, it's wise to rely on their in-comic, canon abilities. these are ruckus'.
Originally posted by Disappeardude hes out on an island with nobody there what other voice was he getting ? thats his own voice screaming. and also i only know him from the cartoon i havent seen him in any books yet
the guy still needs to expel air to create sound, but he's not using his natural voice. he's using a mutant-modified set of vocal chords capable of recreating sound relayed from his inner ear, only a thousand times louder. it's his voice, but it's not his sound. he couldn't do the same thing if there weren't sounds around for him to reproduce, which is not the same restriction other sonic-based characters face. so, he's kind of a cheater. and also i only have info of rukus from the cartoon i havent seen him in any books.the animated series, by the way, isn't a comic book. and this is a comic forum. so, if you want to use the character, it's wise to rely on their in-comic, canon abilities. these are ruckus'.
Originally posted by DisappearThe damage from Black Bolt's voice isn't primarily sound related, however.
ruckus' power relies on his processing and reproducing of other sounds, whereas characters like banshee, blackbolt and black canary produce the sounds themselves. they don't count as cheaters in the same sense, or really in any sense at all.
the animated series is not a comic book. it took extensive liberties with the material, as any viewer who also read the comics could see. ruckus also doesnt need another VOICE in order to use his powers, just another sound. as i already pointed out, in x-factor he used the sound of a firecracker. not somebody saying "pop" loudly. it's his voice, true, but he's copying another sound. he's basically an amp, something which can't crank up the volume if nothing's being inputed.
Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
The damage from Black Bolt's voice isn't primarily sound related, however.
Originally posted by Disappearand how is that cheating ? thats his powers he has to grab sound to use it at others. just like pyro cant create his own flames he has to grab it and from there use it
the animated series is not a comic book. it took extensive liberties with the material, as any viewer who also read the comics could see. ruckus also doesnt need another VOICE in order to use his powers, just another sound. as i already pointed out, in x-factor he used the sound of a firecracker. not somebody saying "pop" loudly. it's his voice, true, but he's copying another sound. he's basically an amp, something which can't crank up the volume if nothing's being inputed.
and pyro's a cheater, too. you wouldn't say "who can create the hottest flame" and vote pyro, because pyro isn't creating it. he's just manipulating that which already exists. so is ruckus.
listen dude, i already validated your argument for ruckus' ability using canon information; something you apparently lack. it's not my fault the guy can't make a big noise without reproducing one. banshee, siryn, blackbolt, black canary, claw and so on CAN. thus, ruckus is a bit of a cheater in that department.
Originally posted by DisappearThat's because as of late, nobody seems to have a grasp of BB's powers... but, without an official retcon, yada yada.
traditionally, that's true. it may be being changed, as lately it's been consistently referred to as a sonic attack. regardless, whether it's an energy fluctuation from the absorption and manipulation of free-floating electrons or a sonic pulse, it's probably really ****in' loud.
Well, even traditionally, it's been said to cause sonic booms and the like as a result of the electron manipulation. So, under the assumption that Ruckus replicates sound, and not only voices (I wouldn't know), he could still theoretically replicate the damage. If he doesn't have a cap.
Originally posted by Disappearthe point of this thread is who can scream the loudest no matter how they create the sound. and no pyro isnt a cheater not his fault he cant create the flamse himself hes no firelord or none of that but thats his power he can only manipulate it so there.
and pyro's a cheater, too. you wouldn't say "who can create the hottest flame" and vote pyro, because pyro isn't creating it. he's just manipulating that which already exists. so is ruckus.listen dude, i already validated your argument for ruckus' ability using canon information; something you apparently lack. it's not my fault the guy can't make a big noise without reproducing one. banshee, siryn, blackbolt, black canary, claw and so on CAN. thus, ruckus is a bit of a cheater in that department.
you argue like an impudent little kid, bud. "so there"? really? that's your big clincher.
if i'm not mistaken, banshee used his anti-moses magnum scream in the animated series, too. that scream was powerful enough to counteract another sonic wave that would've destroyed all of japan. that's better than rustling some treetops. even in TAS, ruckus doesn't win.
as for whether or not he could replicate a blackbolt-, or even a banshee-level, sound is unknown; so we can't rely on an assumption either way. schroedinger's cat. it's basically a logical DQ.