Superman VS Gohan

Originally posted by King_Cold
You don't get proof from sites, just the show.

Gohan used it on Cell after he turned Super Saiyan 2 and destroyed the Cell Jr.'s.

Look up Gohan ssj2 vs Cell on youtube.

When Gohan turned SSJ2 against the Cell jr.s he moved like that to show a speed increase with the transformation.

I believe the only 1's who know IT is Goku, Cell, Meta-Cooler, and Kid Buu. If u remember KB was using it in space to find Goku and Vegeta after he blew up Earth. He was about to blow up the after life world then Goku told him to come to Supreme KI's planet and he teleported right there.

Originally posted by King_Cold
I'm not talking about the adult Gohan that we saw, I'm talking about a Gohan that had trained instead of studied after the Cell saga. This Gohan would be infinitely stronger than adult Gohan, even after breaking the sword and ascending into his ultimate form.

Are you saying if Gohan had trained he would be stronger than his maximum potential plus more unlocked?? You do realise he can't get stronger than Ultimate Gohan, hell he couldn't have even gotten that strong with out the Lord of Lords because he stated he took him past his maximum latent power.

If Gohan had trained he would have probably been on the same level as Goku was in the Boo saga, and that's without super saiyan 3 cause I doubt Gohan could achieve that without help, because frankly he was always gifted but he always needed to be trained by someone else to actually make himself strong, Like first Piccolo then Goku teaching him how to become super saiyan and master it.

So a Gohan who had trained throughout that period may be on the same level or slightly stronger than Super Saiyan 2 Goku and Majin Vegeta, But no way would he be stronger than Ultimate Gohan... Or a Super Saiyan 3 Goku for that matter.

Originally posted by Soljer
Gohan > SSj3 Gotenks > Super Buu > Kid Buu > SSj3 Goku.

Truth.

Actually Kid Boo and Super saiyan 3 Goku were equal in strength, Just that Goku couldn't maintain the form for long, yes I'm being picky but I'm like that...

Oh and the only Characters to teleport at least in the manga Is Goku, Kibto Kai, Cell, Kid Boo and thats it,

Gohan was never taught it by anyone, and if he did do it, I'm sure it would have been mentioned, that and why would he need Kibito to teleport him back to earth after he recived his powerup? Goku managed it without a problem...

Originally posted by Sparkz
Actually Kid Boo and Super saiyan 3 Goku were equal in strength, Just that Goku couldn't maintain the form for long, yes I'm being picky but I'm like that...

Oh and the only Characters to teleport at least in the manga Is Goku, Kibto Kai, Cell, Kid Boo and thats it,

Gohan was never taught it by anyone, and if he did do it, I'm sure it would have been mentioned, that and why would he need Kibito to teleport him back to earth after he recived his powerup? Goku managed it without a problem...

Well, he's the same strength for a shorter period of time - meaning, he's less powerful. 😛.

Originally posted by Soljer
Well, he's the same strength for a shorter period of time - meaning, he's less powerful. 😛.

lol Now who's being picky 😛

Originally posted by Sparkz
lol Now who's being picky 😛

You're the one that wanted to be, 😉.

Originally posted by Soljer
You're the one that wanted to be, 😉.

Thats beside the point....sort of

Oh shut up you 😛

Superman easily wins. He's fast enough to dodge the energy attacks & the Z Fighters aren't that durable so it's really all too easy for Supes to win.

Originally posted by SeerQris
If we are speaking in potentials only then yes Gohan is stronger. However it is confirmed that Goku in the end is the strongest Z warrior. (because Gohan stopped training). In fact all the Z children are potentially more powerful than Goku with their feats of Saiyan transformation at an early age....

But to get back on point. See you later Superman, You are not fast enough, nor are you strong enough to win this battle.

Goodness, how many times do I have to say it? Gohan doesn't become weaker from training now this he has his Mystic form, as stated by Elder Kai in the manga & no amount of training can ever make Goku stronger than Gohan again.

Also, Superman is light speed fast, Gohan is not. Superman juggles planets, the Z Fighters struggles with lifting puny 40 ton mountains, even in filler scenes. 1 billion tons or 40 tons? I guess I'll go with the guy who can lift a billion tons & it's certainly not Goku or Gohan.

Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43
Goodness, how many times do I have to say it? Gohan doesn't become weaker from training now this he has his Mystic form, as stated by Elder Kai in the manga & no amount of training can ever make Goku stronger than Gohan again.

Also, Superman is light speed fast, Gohan is not. Superman juggles planets, the Z Fighters struggles with lifting puny 40 ton mountains, even in filler scenes. 1 billion tons or 40 tons? I guess I'll go with the guy who can lift a billion tons & it's certainly not Goku or Gohan.

Elder kai never stated Goku couldnt become stronger than Gohan again in the manga, unless you have a dif dub...

Originally posted by Sparkz
Elder kai never stated Goku couldnt become stronger than Gohan again in the manga, unless you have a dif dub...

Yeah, I don't remember that, either.

I doubt that Goku could - Gohan was always supposed to be his superior according to Akira....

But it was never directly stated.

Originally posted by Soljer

- Gohan was always supposed to be his superior according to Akira....

I think Akira changed his mind alot on that...

At first Gohan was naturaly powerful but just needed range to release it, then Goku was the only Super Saiyan...where the story was supposed to end, then Gohan mastered his rage and Became a super saiyan 2 at the time that seemed like something only half breeds could become, then Goku and vegeta acheive it lol

But Anyway I agree I don't think any amount of training Goku could do would let him surpass Gohan now I mean he was so much stronger than a super Saiyan 3, Goku probaly wouldnt have enough time to get to that Level and if he ever could he wouldnt get stronger...

wow.....

Originally posted by Sparkz
I think Akira changed his mind alot on that...

At first Gohan was naturaly powerful but just needed range to release it, then Goku was the only Super Saiyan...where the story was supposed to end, then Gohan mastered his rage and Became a super saiyan 2 at the time that seemed like something only half breeds could become, then Goku and vegeta acheive it lol

But Anyway I agree I don't think any amount of training Goku could do would let him surpass Gohan now I mean he was so much stronger than a super Saiyan 3, Goku probaly wouldnt have enough time to get to that Level and if he ever could he wouldnt get stronger...

Originally, the series was going to end after the Namek saga - with Goku dead.

Fan/producer pressure led him into making the Cell saga - which ended, again, with Goku dead, and Gohan as the most powerful (and the only 'Super saiya-jin 2"😉.

Then fan/producer pressure led him into making the Buu saga - which ended with Gohan as the most powerful character in the series, save for Vegetto, and the Super Buu after he had absorbed Gohan.

Then fan/producer pressure tried to lead him into making more, he refused, and GT was made without him. More or less.

Anyways, what I was talking about is that Akira claimed that Z was supposed to be 'Gohan's story,' where as DB was centered on Goku.

Originally posted by Sparkz
I think Akira changed his mind alot on that...

Not sure if its true but that's what I heard that when someone didn't like the way something happened he was required to change it.

Originally posted by Soljer

Anyways, what I was talking about is that Akira claimed that Z was supposed to be 'Gohan's story,' where as DB was centered on Goku.

Yeah I heard that too but all the fans loved Goku to much to see him loose the lime light (me included) but in some ways it would have been better if it did end at namek saga, that way Freeza being called the strongest in the universse would have made much more sense etc, but I love Vegerot and Super Saiyan 3 so I can forgive lol

Mystic Gohan pwned Super Buu.

Goku flatly said he and Veget aowuld be no match for Super Buu.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Mystic Gohan pwned Super Buu.

Goku flatly said he and Veget aowuld be no match for Super Buu.

Indeed.

Even though Goku alone WAS a match for Kid Buu.

Also; 'mystic' is a fan-term, in reality that Gohan wasn't another form of Gohan.

It was just...Gohan.

That explains it.

I never understood where the term came from. Thought it may have been in the manga.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
That explains it.

I never understood where the term came from. Thought it may have been in the manga.

Yeah - there was never a term used. I mean, technically I guess it would be "Gohan with his potential unlocked."

But saying 'mystic' is so much easier. I've also heard him referred to as 'Chou' Gohan or Dai-Kaioshin Gohan.

All fan-terms. The 'form' was never officially named.