Originally posted by h1a8Mangogs high ones include him beating odin who easily beats Superman. Either way you have it Supes is crushed.
Low showings don't count here since they contradict both the high ones and the rule of fighting to your best abilities. The only high ones that don't count are the ones that have PIS or CIS involved.
Originally posted by h1a8So... Superman has absolutely no chance to take out Mangog then?
Low showings don't count here since they contradict both the high ones and the rule of fighting to your best abilities. The only high ones that don't count are the ones that have PIS or CIS involved.
Why would you want that?
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So... Superman has absolutely no chance to take out Mangog then?Why would you want that?
I don't care who wins these forum battles. Shocking huh? I'm an objective person and choose this comic debating as a hobbie to increase both my truth seeing and debating skills. But if one was to use Mangog's high feats then would it tell us that he can at least lift over 1000tons or that he is fast enough to respond to light speed attacks? I'm asking this question not assuming the answer for I can't really say anything since I've only seen a few appearances of Mangog. But from what I've seen I doubt that he's on Superman's level of strength and speed.
Originally posted by Silent Master
You do realize that ignoring low feats means that Superman has no chance of even hurting Mangog, right?
Did you read my post above? It is asking for what Mangog has done featwise to put his strength level at or above Superman's. This goes for his speed too. This is what I've said:
But if one was to use Mangog's high feats then would it tell us that he can at least lift over 1000tons or that he is fast enough to respond to light speed attacks?...from what I've seen I doubt that he's on Superman's level of strength and speed.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Even in Mangog's low showings he does things like beat Thor unconscious and shrug of anti-force blasts.
Note: I carefully avoided talking about his durability even though physical blunt durability is something different. My interests have change to his strength and speed. I consider Superman much much more physically durable that Thor. Plus how do we know that Mangog is fast enough where Superman won't see him as a statue?
Again what are Mangog's high showings that prove Superman won't hurt him. And are there any that show that he is strong enough to hurt Superman and is fast enough to even touch Superman?
Originally posted by h1a8Evidently you do, as you just tried to negate all of Superman's low feats, and you're only arguing on speed, and strength.
I don't care who wins these forum battles. Shocking huh? I'm an objective person and choose this comic debating as a hobbie to increase both my truth seeing and debating skills. But if one was to use Mangog's high feats then would it tell us that he can at least lift over 1000tons or that he is fast enough to respond to light speed attacks? I'm asking this question not assuming the answer for I can't really say anything since I've only seen a few appearances of Mangog. But from what I've seen I doubt that he's on Superman's level of strength and speed.
Mangog can lift 1 ton for all I care. He's still stronger than Thor by a hefty margin. And no, he has no lifting feats (although he did rip a bridge out from underneath Odin/company)
Anyway, Mangog's reactions are pretty good:
And his hand speed is pretty off the chain. Recorder... a highly advanced robot can't follow his blows.
Plus, all Superman has to do is touch him:
If you've seen nothing of Mangog ('cause come on... let's be serious here), how can you assume his power level?
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Evidently you do, as you just tried to negate all of Superman's low feats, and you're only arguing on speed, and strength.Mangog can lift 1 ton for all I care. He's still stronger than Thor by a hefty margin. And no, he has no lifting feats (although he did rip a bridge out from underneath Odin/company)
Anyway, Mangog's reactions are pretty good:And his hand speed is pretty off the chain. Recorder... a highly advanced robot can't follow his blows.
Plus, all Superman has to do is touch him:
If you've seen nothing of Mangog ('cause come on... let's be serious here), how can you assume his power level?
I've seen those (except the blow tallying one). As I've said I did see a couple of his appearances.
But those are unimpressive compared to Superman.
I fail to see how Mangog is even stronger than Thor. He may be more durable than Thor but certainly not necessary stronger than Thor or faster than Superman. Plus I didn't see Thor bleeding at all. Maybe Superman wouldn't feel anything.
Originally posted by Silent Master
If he can hurt Thor, he is more than strong enough to hurt Superman, and even during that low showing he was throwing punches too fast for the Recorder to keep count.
Unimpressive. He didn't even beat blood from Thor like DS does to Superman. And the recorder limits are probably several multiples of the speed of sound. Nothing compared to the speed of light.
Originally posted by h1a8
Unimpressive. He didn't even beat blood from Thor like DS does to Superman. And the recorder limits are probably several multiples of the speed of sound. Nothing compared to the speed of light.
rigellian recorders are made on rigel-3 by the alien race that taught dr.doom how to transfer his mind, they are one of the most intelligent races in the universe. the recorders are advanced robots superior to those of earth.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
rigellian recorders are made on rigel-3 by the alien race that taught dr.doom how to transfer his mind, they are one of the most intelligent races in the universe. the recorders are advanced robots superior to those of earth.
still doesn't prove that he was punching any speed comparable to light speed. Being superior doesn't mean better at everything (just most things). And when you say Earth you must refer to marvel Earth and not the real (our own) Earth. For their is both technology and great minds on Marvel Earth that exceeds most races in the universe.
Originally posted by h1a8
still doesn't prove that he was punching any speed comparable to light speed. Being superior doesn't mean better at everything (just most things). And when you say Earth you must refer to marvel Earth and not the real (our own) Earth. For their is both technology and great minds on Marvel Earth that exceeds most races in the universe.
k look, the space robot couldn't record the strikes of mangog so believe whatever you want, but you do know that hitting superman isn't the impossible task everybody is claiming it is:
though mangog is faster, i and the logical community will settle for his speed being equal to batman's....so we both win....but if mangog connects that same punch, superman comics will be discontinued.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
k look, the space robot couldn't record the strikes of mangog so believe whatever you want, but you do know that hitting superman isn't the impossible task everybody is claiming it is:though mangog is faster, i and the logical community will settle for his speed being equal to batman's....so we both win....but if mangog connects that same punch, superman comics will be discontinued.
There was obviously some plot device going on there. Superman severely weakened, etc. Otherwise the writer should be shot. And I mean that.
