Originally posted by Faceman
Thing about getting someone like that is, that the acting might suffer from it....
Again, that's why I would gamble on casting The Rock...he's shown in movies like Be Cool that he can do more than just look good on film while beating up bad guys...
But at the same time, he does a REALLY good job of beating up on the bad guys...
What about Matt Damon? Again, a little thin IMHO, but the Bourne movies have shown that he can handle action-heavy films, and he's a very talented actor...plus, he has yet to sign on for a comic-based movie franchise...
Originally posted by shksprtx
Again, that's why I would gamble on casting The Rock...he's shown in movies like Be Cool that he can do more than just look good on film while beating up bad guys...But at the same time, he does a REALLY good job of beating up on the bad guys...
What about Matt Damon? Again, a little thin IMHO, but the Bourne movies have shown that he can handle action-heavy films, and he's a very talented actor...plus, he has yet to sign on for a comic-based movie franchise...
Matt , is too small.
What about the Batman guy.
Originally posted by shksprtx
Again, that's why I would gamble on casting The Rock...he's shown in movies like Be Cool that he can do more than just look good on film while beating up bad guys...But at the same time, he does a REALLY good job of beating up on the bad guys...
I think the rock has to much of an identifiable presence. You wouldnt be watching Captain America as much as you would be watching the rock.
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
I think the rock has to much of an identifiable presence. You wouldnt be watching Captain America as much as you would be watching the rock.
True, but you DO want someone with box-office clout...or the potential for box-office clout...
What about (cause I'm still just tossing out names here) Josh Duhamel?
Also, who would be the best villain (my money is still on Colonel Abdul Al-Rahman), and who would be cast in that role?
Re: Captain America...casting and thoughts
Originally posted by roughrider
So many wrestlers have been passed up for roles like this, because they can't act. Dwayne Johnson is the only one who's an OK actor in a lead; the others are best as background characters, like Tyler Mane playing Sabretooth.
Kevin McKidd from ROME? I would sooner cast him as The Red Skull, than Cap.
Do you think Kevin McKidd can do a german accent?
How about daniel craig as red skull, and mckidd as Cap...Someone should pay for this. smokin'
Craig is James Bond, I doubt he'd wanna do a comic book movie.
I like The Rock as Cap. Yeah, he doesn't have the typical blond-blue-eyed ubermensch look that one normally associates with Cap, but he has the build, the physical ability, and the acting chops to pull it off. The only foreseeable problem with that casting is that it might be hard to buy the idea of a racially-diverse American champion in the WWII era...but that could also be used to the filmmakers' advantage (see below)...
As for the costume, I agree that something more along the lines of Ultimate Cap would work better, with a special-ops sort of feel and the various associated utility packs, etc.
For that matter, if I were writing it, I would be more likely to use the Ult. Cap story for background, etc. I'd even use the Colonel as the main villain instead of the Red Skull...because face it, a Captain America movie will sell better if the bad guy somehow ties into the current world situation...
I think that, in the end, the emphasis of the movie should not so much be on the whole "America conquers all" angle as much as the culture-shock thing. Not that the patriotic angle is necessarily somehow flawed, but as a writer/director/actor I'm more interested in how Cap learns to relate to a world that has moved on: new values, new weapons, new enemies, etc...
Everyone he knew has either died or grown old, the face of the culture has changed, people are now much more tolerant of diversity (works with either The Rock as Cap or a white actor, just a matter of execution), the political climate is vastly different, and America has a new enemy...
But yeah, I could also see Thom Jane as Cap...
Seann William Scott could probably pull it off if only he would tone down the whole "goofy-stoner" act...
To cast Dwayne Johnson as a comic book icon would be a gross mistake. As for the Cap America costume more likely the one has has always worn. Prollu none of that Ult. Cap stuff. Thomas Jane as another comic book character. NOT... After the debacle with The Punisher and its sequel, I doubt Jane ever be another comic book character again.
What about Brad Pitt , playing Cap...
I like Pitt, but he is too old.
He would be perfect for Cap...
Yes Bale is perfect, but since he is already playing one the best comic book characters ever and is contracted by WB and DC comics, he won't be playing another comic book character.
The man with the best combination of looks, age, physique and acting chops right now, is Tom Jane. He's done all this extra training for a Punisher film he decided to back out on...Marvel should make it worth his while and get him now.
Unless they can find a perfect unknown, ala Christopher Reeve...
I perfect unknown just may work here. I mean casting The Rock for obvious reason will not work, nor will fan stand for it. Tom Jane, yes, but as another comic book guy, prolly not...
I personally don't think Red Skull should be more than a small part in the movie...
Leave him for a sequel, if need be, but the first installment in the franchise needs to have a more topical villain and be more oriented to the War on Terror...maybe we can find out at the end that the Skull is behind it all (whatever "it" ends up being), but as I said before I really think Ult. Cap's costume, backstory, and villain (The Colonel) will work best for volume 1 of this film franchise...
I'll try to work up a synopsis of how I would write the movie and post it here ASAP...
Originally posted by DARKLORDCAEDUS
The villain will be The Red Skull.
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, if this is true it's IMHO a huge mistake on Marvel's part.
Yes, the Skull is Cap's traditional arch-enemy, but it's gonna be really tough to make him work without coming across as being very cheesy...