Mixed Genre & Comic Tier Reference Guide

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Originally posted by Endless Mike
Or maybe you're just full of shit, like you always were.

Don't let people make you angry.

People who need to brag with their "questionable" academic degrees are just dur worthy. It's not so difficult to get them tbh, it doesn't require exceptional intelligence, just time and dedication, and such people who brag are often socially incompeten, iow have a low social intelligence and emotional intelligence. ^^

Originally posted by Brockalizer
I was surprised that abstracts weren't included. The Marvel abstracts are pretty obvious for those of us that prefer Marvel, but it would be nice to see a list of abstract level beings from the DCU, for those of us that aren't as familiar with that universe. If there already such a list I apologize for not sorting through 300 plus pages to find it.

The Over-Monitor/ Over-Mind/ Overvoid The Presence ( Yahweh / Elaine Belloc)

- Tier 2 - [ 1st Class Multiversal Abstract Entity ]:

Meshta The Great Evil Beast Rama Kushna The Source Synnar Ultimate Darkness Ultimate Light

- Tier 3 - [ 2nd Class Multiversal Abstract Entity ]:

Lucifer Morningstar Michael Demiurgos

- Tier 4 - [ 3rd Class Multiversal Entity ]:

Anti-Monitor (full form) Death (of The Endless) Mandrakk the Dark Monitor (Dax Novu) Superman Prime (with the Monitor/Cosmic Armor) Ultimator (10th Dimensional being)

- Tier 5 - [ 1st Class Universal Abstract Entity Dimensional God ]:

Anti-Life Entity Carnivore Ion Entity Kismet (JLA / Avengers crossover) Parallax Entity Phantom Stranger Maldoor, The Dark Lord Shattered Gods Spectre (fully powered) Una, the Cosmic Worm of Heaven and Hell

- Tier 6 - [ 2nd Class Universal Abstract Entity Dimensional God ]:

Decreator Eclipso (fully powered) Endless, The ( Destiny, Dream. Destruction, Desire, Despair, Delirium) Godwave King Of Tears Koth Sugoth Lords of Hell within their realm ( Azmodus, Neron, Satan, Satannish, Satanus, Shaitan) Superman-Prime (DC One Million) Trigon (within his realm)

- Tier 7 - [ High Level Metaphysical Semi-Abstract ]:

Archangel Gabriel Eclipso (high powered) Infinite Man Spectre (high powered) Time Trapper Darkseid (The Great Darkness Saga)

- Tier 8 - [ "Minor Omnipotent" Level]:

The 5th Dimensional Imps Mr. Mxyzptlk Lkz Yz Bat-Mite Qwsp The Great Tree Kal Kent (5th Dimensional Queen Powered Superman)

- Tier 9 - [ Metaphysical Semi-Abstract level ]:

e (average) The Lurker Krona The Word (The Cosmic Entity) Imperiex Brainiac 13 Abraxus Promethian Giants The Quantum Mechanics Black Racer Black Flash Kulak Mystos Shadrack Hellion Eclipso, Wrath of God (average) Spear of Destiny Lords and Agents of Order Lord Kilderkin J'akk Kismet Nabu the Wise Pantagones Shat-Ru St'ann Terataya Ynar Lords and Agents of Chaos Child Gorrum Hytuurnus Mordru M'Shulla Shivering Jemmy T'Charr The Weaver The Shallow Brigade and the Laughing Dancers The five original Lords of Chaos (Appeared in Grant Morrison's and later Ann Nocienti's Kid Eternity series - #:Chaos is viewed as a good force here) Typhon Vandaemon Zanadu the Chaos Maker Stigmonus Monsiuer Retcon Anti-Monitor (Sinestro Corps War)

- Tier 10 - [ Low Level Metaphysical-High Class Mutants: Reality Warping Level ]:

Bedlam Thunderbolt (inhibited) Doctor Destiny (with Morpheus' Dreamstone Amulet)

- Tier 11 - [ Older Gods]:

Old Gods Arzaz (heroic Old God) Balduur (heroic Old God whose atoms formed New Genesis) Yuga Khan The Dreggs (the undead) Lokee (god of evil) The Nameless One (evil Old God) Wotan (ruler of the Old Gods) S'ivaa the Destroyer and Dark Elements Mageddon Clockwerx King Of Tears (Outside it's realm) Superman-Prime

- Tier 12 - [ Skyfather level Upper Class Team Wrecker ]:

Archangels ( Uriel / Raphael / Sarauquel / Raguel etc) Ares The Controllers Cosmic Gamblers Cosmic Skyfathers Darkseid (high powered) Doctor Fate (fully powered) Eclipso, The Wrath of God (depowered) Elder gods of Shazam (Marzosh, Arel, Ribalvei, Voldar, Elbiam, Lumium) Guardians of the Universe Highfather Izaya Lord Marvel Lords of Hell outside their realm ( Azmodus, Neron, Satan, Satannish, Satanus, Shaitan) Luck Lord Millenium Giants Oblivion Owners of the Earth Shazam Skyfather pantheons ( Odin, Zeus, Dove, etc.) Solaris Sun-Eater Trinity Giants (The Guardians' Gods) Tynan ( the balance between Chaos and Order) Zamarons

- Tier 13 - [ Planetary-Star Scale: Death Gods Lower Class Team Wreckers High End Psionics ]:

Despero Darkseid (normal) Helspont Lord Defile Hightower Lord Emp Doctor Fate (normal) Validus Sun-Dipped Superman Fernus Takion Stayne Hourman III Waverider Godfrey Gaius (actual form) Eye of Ekron Black Zero Parliaments ( Parliament of Worlds, Stones, Flames, Waves, Trees) Firestorm (Elemental) Swamp Thing (Elemental) Naiad (Elemental) Red Tornado (Elemental) Elemental of Stone Death Gods (Seth, Pluto, Hel. Half-Rotted, Kali, Hades, Persephone, etc.) Onimar Synn Overmaster The Doctor (any one since each has the powers of all previous Doctors) Sodam Yat ( Ion) All Star Superman Kingdom Come Superman

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
People who need to brag with their "questionable" academic degrees are just dur worthy.

Need, and need? I do it because it pushes his buttons.

Furthermore, most people with credible academic achievements take pride in them, just as athletes take pride in their accomplishments. On the contrary, people like yourself, who have problems with overachievers and try to undermine their accomplishments tend to be underachievers.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
It's not so difficult to get them tbh, it doesn't require exceptional intelligence, just time and dedication,

That depends on the education, doesn't it? Judging by your failure of a rebuttal of my estimation of Superman's strength in the Superman thread which was promptly locked before I had a chance to reply to you, I'd say that it's at least too much for you to handle.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
and such people who brag are often socially incompeten, iow have a low social intelligence and emotional intelligence. ^^

You have it backwards. The intellectual elite tend to be very social due to their confidence due to their achievements. It's the geeks—reading comic books and watching anime most of their time—that never really excelled academically that tend to be asocial.

One pro tip, though. Don't start with me, or you might end up as bitter as Mike.

Great, we all have enormous dicks. Whoopdee-doo.

Now, back on topic please.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
The Over-Monitor/ Over-Mind/ Overvoid The Presence ( Yahweh / Elaine Belloc)

- Tier 2 - [ 1st Class Multiversal Abstract Entity ]:

Meshta The Great Evil Beast Rama Kushna The Source Synnar Ultimate Darkness Ultimate Light


I'd put the great evil beast (ultimate darkness) and the ultimate light in tier one, and I'd probably push down Elaine to tier, but not all the way to tier 2. Tier 1.5 perhaps? In that tier I'd also include Lucifer and Michael, because Elaine has Michael's powers.

There's a lot more I'd edit about the list. Destiny for one should be a lot higher, as only Lucifer managed to escape him.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
The Over-Monitor/ Over-Mind/ Overvoid The Presence ( Yahweh / Elaine Belloc)

- Tier 2 - [ 1st Class Multiversal Abstract Entity ]:

Meshta The Great Evil Beast Rama Kushna The Source Synnar Ultimate Darkness Ultimate Light

- Tier 3 - [ 2nd Class Multiversal Abstract Entity ]:

Lucifer Morningstar Michael Demiurgos

- Tier 4 - [ 3rd Class Multiversal Entity ]:

Anti-Monitor (full form) Death (of The Endless) Mandrakk the Dark Monitor (Dax Novu) Superman Prime (with the Monitor/Cosmic Armor) Ultimator (10th Dimensional being)

- Tier 5 - [ 1st Class Universal Abstract Entity Dimensional God ]:

Anti-Life Entity Carnivore Ion Entity Kismet (JLA / Avengers crossover) Parallax Entity Phantom Stranger Maldoor, The Dark Lord Shattered Gods Spectre (fully powered) Una, the Cosmic Worm of Heaven and Hell

- Tier 6 - [ 2nd Class Universal Abstract Entity Dimensional God ]:

Decreator Eclipso (fully powered) Endless, The ( Destiny, Dream. Destruction, Desire, Despair, Delirium) Godwave King Of Tears Koth Sugoth Lords of Hell within their realm ( Azmodus, Neron, Satan, Satannish, Satanus, Shaitan) Superman-Prime (DC One Million) Trigon (within his realm)

- Tier 7 - [ High Level Metaphysical Semi-Abstract ]:

Archangel Gabriel Eclipso (high powered) Infinite Man Spectre (high powered) Time Trapper Darkseid (The Great Darkness Saga)

- Tier 8 - [ "Minor Omnipotent" Level]:

The 5th Dimensional Imps Mr. Mxyzptlk Lkz Yz Bat-Mite Qwsp The Great Tree Kal Kent (5th Dimensional Queen Powered Superman)

- Tier 9 - [ Metaphysical Semi-Abstract level ]:

e (average) The Lurker Krona The Word (The Cosmic Entity) Imperiex Brainiac 13 Abraxus Promethian Giants The Quantum Mechanics Black Racer Black Flash Kulak Mystos Shadrack Hellion Eclipso, Wrath of God (average) Spear of Destiny Lords and Agents of Order Lord Kilderkin J'akk Kismet Nabu the Wise Pantagones Shat-Ru St'ann Terataya Ynar Lords and Agents of Chaos Child Gorrum Hytuurnus Mordru M'Shulla Shivering Jemmy T'Charr The Weaver The Shallow Brigade and the Laughing Dancers The five original Lords of Chaos (Appeared in Grant Morrison's and later Ann Nocienti's Kid Eternity series - #:Chaos is viewed as a good force here) Typhon Vandaemon Zanadu the Chaos Maker Stigmonus Monsiuer Retcon Anti-Monitor (Sinestro Corps War)

- Tier 10 - [ Low Level Metaphysical-High Class Mutants: Reality Warping Level ]:

Bedlam Thunderbolt (inhibited) Doctor Destiny (with Morpheus' Dreamstone Amulet)

- Tier 11 - [ Older Gods]:

Old Gods Arzaz (heroic Old God) Balduur (heroic Old God whose atoms formed New Genesis) Yuga Khan The Dreggs (the undead) Lokee (god of evil) The Nameless One (evil Old God) Wotan (ruler of the Old Gods) S'ivaa the Destroyer and Dark Elements Mageddon Clockwerx King Of Tears (Outside it's realm) Superman-Prime

- Tier 12 - [ Skyfather level Upper Class Team Wrecker ]:

Archangels ( Uriel / Raphael / Sarauquel / Raguel etc) Ares The Controllers Cosmic Gamblers Cosmic Skyfathers Darkseid (high powered) Doctor Fate (fully powered) Eclipso, The Wrath of God (depowered) Elder gods of Shazam (Marzosh, Arel, Ribalvei, Voldar, Elbiam, Lumium) Guardians of the Universe Highfather Izaya Lord Marvel Lords of Hell outside their realm ( Azmodus, Neron, Satan, Satannish, Satanus, Shaitan) Luck Lord Millenium Giants Oblivion Owners of the Earth Shazam Skyfather pantheons ( Odin, Zeus, Dove, etc.) Solaris Sun-Eater Trinity Giants (The Guardians' Gods) Tynan ( the balance between Chaos and Order) Zamarons

- Tier 13 - [ Planetary-Star Scale: Death Gods Lower Class Team Wreckers High End Psionics ]:

Despero Darkseid (normal) Helspont Lord Defile Hightower Lord Emp Doctor Fate (normal) Validus Sun-Dipped Superman Fernus Takion Stayne Hourman III Waverider Godfrey Gaius (actual form) Eye of Ekron Black Zero Parliaments ( Parliament of Worlds, Stones, Flames, Waves, Trees) Firestorm (Elemental) Swamp Thing (Elemental) Naiad (Elemental) Red Tornado (Elemental) Elemental of Stone Death Gods (Seth, Pluto, Hel. Half-Rotted, Kali, Hades, Persephone, etc.) Onimar Synn Overmaster The Doctor (any one since each has the powers of all previous Doctors) Sodam Yat ( Ion) All Star Superman Kingdom Come Superman

Tier 8 is buggin the hell out of me

Originally posted by -Pr-
Great, we all have enormous dicks. Whoopdee-doo.

Now, back on topic please.

But mine is certainly bigger then his... sneer

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Tier 8 is buggin the hell out of me

Explain

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
But mine is certainly bigger then his... sneer

I won't lie, I laughed.

I'm also very curious to ass where Yamamoto would end up. Because he's a bit tricky to place.

Now in his fully released state, Zanka No Tachi he has the following four powers, each corresponding to a compass point.

East: The tip of his sword becomes so hot that it instantly disintegrates any object he comes in contact with.


Bleach chapter 507, pages 13-15 of 24. The second image shows the crevice created after the tip came in contact with the ground.

West: He's clad in flames as hot as the core of the sun, that he can turn visible. Even the opponent's blade vaporized before it could come in contact with him.


Bleach chapter 507, page 21 of 24.

South: He can resurrect the ones he's slain as smoldering skeletons. Though they don't serve much purpose outside of being cannon fodder.


Bleach chapter 508, page 18 of 21.

North: A swing with a reach.


Bleach chapter 509, pages 16-17 of 20.

For speed, durability, and overall combat prowess I'd recommend reading chapters 503-509.

If this includes video game characters I vote Master Chief for low level Metahuman.

Where would you put the outer Gods from Lovecraft? Yog-sothoth seems to be equal to Eternity/Infinity, with both being the concepts of time/space.

I'd put them up your butt.

Are you talking about from the novels or comics?

Novels.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Where would you put the outer Gods from Lovecraft?

You can't really quantify them without reducing what they're supposed to be. Because they are supposed to be incomprehensible entities ruling over an infinite amount of universes, however, from what we see they primarily operate on very local scales like villages or single households.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Yog-sothoth seems to be equal to Eternity/Infinity, with both being the concepts of time/space.

I don't think you can make that comparison. Either way, Yog-Sothoth is trapped outside of space-time.

just got done watchin advent children...curious where u guys would place cloud? high meta?

At his highest, yeah.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Tier 8 is buggin the hell out of me

It's a generally shitty list.

Phantom Stranger as a 1st class universal abstract?

I like the guy (moreso before DCnU, for sure), but he's literally done nothing

I feel like Nate Grey should be high herald.

Any opinions on that?

Originally posted by curryman
I feel like Nate Grey should be high herald.

Any opinions on that?

Hell no