Originally posted by Sam Z
lol Yeah weird.
And I actually liked Gargan as Scorpion. 🙁
When he was beating the crap outa Luke Cage he was a badass.
I remeber that that was a great story, then for some reason writers decided to make Scorpion a second stringer, along with Electro and others, just cause they look corny sometimes dsnt make them weak...
Originally posted by Sparkz
I remeber that that was a great story, then for some reason writers decided to make Scorpion a second stringer, along with Electro and others, just cause they look corny sometimes dsnt make them weak...
Originally posted by Sam Z
Yeah, guys like Electro should be concidered A list villains. This guy once shut down entire NY with a thought.
Yeah I agree, and I know sometimes they can appear stupid, but Electro actualy seems quite smart with the things he's done, I just don't think he's very good at thinking on his feet sometimes and people confuse that for him being Dumb. Hell even Shocker, he made his gauntlets while he was in prison for crying out loud yet people think he's stupid and weak, he may not be the strongest guy out there but he can def give a good fight, especialy after he upgraded his tech which all the writers seemed to forget about.
I swear if you aint the Green Goblin Doc Ock or a symbiote Spideys rouge gallery is so underwritten nowadays, or maybe I'm just being picky but oh well.
i really dont know why everyone is saying ultimate venom cause that guy is a ***** man. its all about the original venom Eddie brock. that guy was a bad ass by far stronger and kooler, and he knows how to use the suite. also the original symbiot had telek. powers and was an alien species that created carnage as well. this other ultimate venom is just a ***** medical creation by parker and brocks parents or something like that. sorry but my vote goes to the original venom.
Originally posted by SparkzYou're not being picky. You're right, Shocker isn't stupid at all, and the thing about him is that he holds back whenever he fight heroes because he doesn't really want to kill anyone. Nick Fury said that once.
Yeah I agree, and I know sometimes they can appear stupid, but Electro actualy seems quite smart with the things he's done, I just don't think he's very good at thinking on his feet sometimes and people confuse that for him being Dumb. Hell even Shocker, he made his gauntlets while he was in prison for crying out loud yet people think he's stupid and weak, he may not be the strongest guy out there but he can def give a good fight, especialy after he upgraded his tech which all the writers seemed to forget about.I swear if you aint the Green Goblin Doc Ock or a symbiote Spideys rouge gallery is so underwritten nowadays, or maybe I'm just being picky but oh well.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Yeah I think it was in secret war. Or may be he didn't say that but it was written in Nick's bio on Shocker. Not sure..
Yeah it was in that bio...I'll never understand why people underestimate Spidey's original rouge gallery, I mean it goes as far as people assume Mysterio's illusions aren't convincing, and Kraven has no skill and isn't very strong...and everytime these people are reinvented and portrayed how they should be the next time you see them they are second stringers with no talent again. I mean even the Scorpion, the guy was twice as strong as spidey just as fast, yet suddenly he became a second stringer, hell all these villains that are downplayed are actually stronger than GG and Doc Ock, Not that they are pushovers but is it just that they are very very smart that they get respect?
Ok thats enough of my rant lol, still 616 Venom wins.
Originally posted by ankur29
when was this?? 😕
When Ben reilly was Spider-man, Scorpion kidnapped Jameson and Robertson Employed Luke to go after Gargan, everyone got their asses kicked by Scorps TBH he had a great stinger where 1 sting hurt like hell, 2 killed you in 24 hours and 3 straight away, then of course he was beaten and the writers forgot to use the upgraded scorpion...
Originally posted by Micheal_Myers
Mac Venom is a joke.Eddie Venom would tear him in half.Spidey even said it."A loser dressed like Venom is still a loser."616 Venom would take down Ultimate Venom...
Saying someone is a loser doesn't say anything about their actual strength & I still have to say that Mac Venom would be able to take on 616 Venom.
Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43
Saying someone is a loser doesn't say anything about their actual strength & I still have to say that Mac Venom would be able to take on 616 Venom.