Super 17 ,Supersayain 4 Goku,Kid Buu Vs. Superman Prime,Silver Surfer,Doomsday

Originally posted by carver9
I still don't get it though. The dragon powers was incalculable, we have no indication of just how powerful the heat from his body was.

I though it was stated he was hotter than the surface of the sun? Like 6000 degrees Celsius or something like that?

Originally posted by carver9
Also, people have withstood Superman heat vision, people that isn't close to Goku durability wise, so I still don't understand where you are going with this.

Kal holds back.

Originally posted by carver9
If this battle is won, heat would be the last deciding factor of this fight. By the way, a couple of people here solos on team 1..

I'm clarifying that the durability of the GT characters in this fight is nothing to brag about awesr

Buu-msday

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Based on?

Prime tanked a universal explosion at point blank range.

He didn't tank anything and lets not pretend like attacks before that didn't hurt him. Monarch temporarily koed him with a Nuke like explosion.

Originally posted by Jynocidus
Buu-msday

Death of Buu-msday!

Originally posted by carver9
He didn't tank anything and lets not pretend like attacks before that didn't hurt him. Monarch temporarily koed him with a Nuke like explosion.

Your blasphemy against the House of El increases with each post!

You play a dangerous game!

Originally posted by Bentley
I though it was stated he was hotter than the surface of the sun? Like 6000 degrees Celsius or something like that?

Kal holds back.

I'm clarifying that the durability of the GT characters in this fight is nothing to brag about awesr

Never said 'surface' of fhe sun, it was stated as being hotter than the sun and that was before he powered up to his 'complete' form.

Wonder Woman withstood his heat vision as well and he was trying to kill her.

I think their durability is insane unless we nitpick showings.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Your blasphemy against the House of El increases with each post!

You play a dangerous game!

Lol...I am speaking the truth. Prime isn't the house of El. I am more of the house of El than Prime.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...I am speaking the truth. Prime isn't the house of El. I am more of the house of El than Prime.

I decide who is a part of the House of El!

For today, the murderer that is Prime is under our protection!

The midget Genie with the glowing hair is crushed!

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I decide who is a part of the House of El!

For today, the murderer that is Prime is under our protection!

The midget Genie with the glowing hair is crushed!

😂

Originally posted by carver9
Never said 'surface' of fhe sun, it was stated as being hotter than the sun and that was before he powered up to his 'complete' form.

Eh, I would love to inform you better about the characters you "defend", but I don't have the time to go and check sources on Nuova Shenron right now. Just keep it in mind.

Originally posted by carver9
Wonder Woman withstood his heat vision as well and he was trying to kill her.

I don't get why so many posters go back to Sacrifice as if it retconned all the other showings in which Kal has done better 😕

Originally posted by carver9
I think their durability is insane unless we nitpick showings.

Oh, they have high durability they just don't stand well against actual comicbook powerhouses.

Including Hulk awesr

Originally posted by Bentley
Eh, I would love to inform you better about the characters you "defend", but I don't have the time to go and check sources on Nuova Shenron right now. Just keep it in mind.

I don't get why so many posters go back to Sacrifice as if it retconned all the other showings in which Kal has done better 😕

Oh, they have high durability they just don't stand well against actual comicbook powerhouses.

Including Hulk awesr

I know about Dragon ball. I've watched every episode at least 10+ times.

Not only sacrifice, I can bring up more but what's the point when heat is the least of Goku worries.

Why don't they stand well against comic characters? Frieza while near death and split in half survived a planet exploding on him. Goku as a super Saiyan was far more durable than Frieza. Comic characters at their average (Heralds) isn't withstanding that amount of force near death unless we look at their high end.

Roshi is a casual moon buster but his power wouldnt even tickle someone like Nappa (and no Herald is tanking a moon busting attack unless again, we focus on high showings.). Their durability is insane, people just look too much into collateral damage.

Originally posted by carver9
Not only sacrifice, I can bring up more but what's the point when heat is the least of Goku worries.

Superman has used Heat Vision hotter than the sun. Fact.

Prime has a powerset that is basically Kal's but enhanced. Fact.

Kal's low showings cannot be applied to Prime in anyway or form: They are different characters.

All things considered, I don't understand how your feeble arguments are relevant to my point.

If Goku gets hit by Prime's heatvision, he's dead meat.

Originally posted by carver9
Why don't they stand well against comic characters? Frieza while near death and split in half survived a planet exploding on him. Goku as a super Saiyan was far more durable than Frieza. Comic characters at their average (Heralds) isn't withstanding that amount of force near death unless we look at their high end.

Roshi can boost a moon, but characters stronger than he is can barely move when gravity is barely increased a few times? Do you know how bad that fares in comparison to a black hole? The heat durability is nothing to write about either, as I clearly mentioned.

Originally posted by Bentley
Superman has used Heat Vision hotter than the sun. Fact.

Prime has a powerset that is basically Kal's but enhanced. Fact.

Kal's low showings cannot be applied to Prime in anyway or form: They are different characters.

All things considered, I don't understand how your feeble arguments are relevant to my point.

If Goku gets hit by Prime's heatvision, he's dead meat.

Roshi can boost a moon, but characters stronger than he is can barely move when gravity is barely increased a few times? Do you know how bad that fares in comparison to a black hole? The heat durability is nothing to write about either, as I clearly mentioned.

I know what Superman has done. Prime and Superman do not share fts so I don't know why you are bringing Superman up. Focus on Prime fts. Also, lol at heat vision stopping Goku, let alone hitting him. Energy attacks doesn't fair so well against Goku since the guy is, you know, fast.

That's different. Goku said that increasing the gravity the way he did doesn't do anything to his outer durability, it's when the gravity is increased internally that makes it hard for him. Around the Cell Saga, gravity did next to nothing against Z fighters. And your argument is faulty yet again. How can Kalibak hurt Superman when he has flown in the sun before? How can Thor hurt Terrax when he has spent months in a black hole without a scratch.? How can Surfer hurt Gladiator when he has withstood a blast that can level half of a solar system and has also flown through stars? How can...you get my point. Bently, youre better than this...lets focus on average potrayals because you going outside of this is leading to me annihilating you. Fact.

Prime's punches literally altered the space-time continuum.

What has Goku in any form done to match that?

Team DBZ via slaughtering speed blitz.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Team DBZ via slaughtering speed blitz.

LIES!

Take SSBroly and augment him several times and you have base Prime.

Surfer and Doomsday survive any initial attack and defeat the DBZ crew through versatility and adaptation.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
[B]LIES!

Take SSBroly and augment him several times and you have base Prime.

Surfer and Doomsday survive any initial attack and defeat the DBZ crew through versatility and adaptation. [/B]

Take Kid Buu and augment him several times and you have Super 17 and SS4

Glad to know you agree team DBZ wins though with the augmenting.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Take Broly, and augment him several times and you have Kid Buu, and also add in molecular regeneration.

Take Kid Buu and augment him several times and you have Super 17 and SS4

Glad to know you agree team DBZ wins though with the augmenting.

Molecular regeneration means nothing with Silver Surfer present.

More importantly we have characters on team 2 with portrayals across the board against characters at least as powerful as anyone present on the DBZ squad.

Who have Team DBZ faced that legitimize your stance on them winning?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Molecular regeneration means nothing with Silver Surfer present.

More importantly we have characters on team 2 with portrayals across the board against characters at least as powerful as anyone present on the DBZ squad.

Who have Team DBZ faced that legitimize your stance on them winning?

The weakest one on team one is stronger than the strongest one of team 2.

Each other obviously.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
The weakest one on team one is stronger than the strongest one of team 2.

Super 17 would die against Superman Prime!