List of beings that could destroy TOAA and The Presence

Originally posted by Mr Master
In Marvel,

God/Toaa are Two beings, (the Artist) & the (Writer)
it's been depicted on panel (FF#511)
and certified in the late 05' Official Handbook bio of the FF.

God literally draws the Marvel Comics WE Read from Marvel Heaven.
(a character within comics that draws everything that takes place within the Omniverse)

In the story, God's "Collaborator" calls him on the phone, and begins telling God ideas for other issues, like Silver Surfer, Black Panther & Spiderman, on his table he has drawings of other Heroes even Galactus is just a drawing on a piece of paper. 😂

So the "Collaborator" is obviously depicted as the Writer, who dictates the "laws/theme" within a story while the Artist uses his pencil to bring those "laws/theme" to Reality (within Comics, the Comic stories we read)

Even though it's obvious that God/Toaa are the "Writer" and "Artist" of any given story,
Marvel played it cool by keeping it in Comics. (because God /Toaa still are characters themselves, it's just that those characters represent the artists and the writers of Marvel in the real world)

So NO character of any kind can take out the God/Toaa of Marvel. 🙂

It's mad cheesy, but true. However, since Stan Lee and the writers do not own other Supreme characters (like the Presence, Mother of Creation, Yahweh, etc.) TOAA cannot do anything to them (unless they buy out their trademarks)

Originally posted by Akuki
God of text from the Thursday next series still wins this.

How exactly can this God of text hurt individuals like you and me?

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
It's mad cheesy, but true. However, since Stan Lee and the writers do not own other Supreme characters (like the Presence, Mother of Creation, Yahweh, etc.) TOAA cannot do anything to them (unless they buy out their trademarks)

If they do, then they must face a force more powerful than TOAA & God. . .Their lawyers.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
How exactly can this God of text hurt individuals like you and me?

If they do, then they must face a force more powerful than TOAA & God. . .Their lawyers.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
How exactly can this God of text hurt individuals like you and me?

👆 Precisely.

I think he missed that part of my post.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
If they do, then they must face a force more powerful than TOAA & God. . .Their lawyers.

😂

Originally posted by Akuki
Couple reasons, first of all it has the ability to rewrite an entire story line, so if it so wished it could turn the marvel universe into a story about a pretty pony.

That would never happen, not ever.

Only the Marvel Company has a say in what happens in their Comics.

Do you really believe that some character/drawing from some other Comic book company can actually affect another Company in any way without any say from said company being affected?

You buggin, but beyond that like I said before,

God/Toaa draws everything, it's all just pieces of paper.

So if this character you speak of appears in comics,
well then he can be crumbled up and thrown in the trash.

Originally posted by Akuki
Secondly, in the Thursday next universe characters can exit the literary universe and enter the main one, so yes it could literally send a minotaur into the real world to eat Stan Lee, at leas according to the rules of its universe.

And this is ridiculous. (not you the company that allowed this into publication)

Originally posted by Akuki
Couple reasons, first of all it has the ability to rewrite an entire story line, so if it so wished it could turn the marvel universe into a story about a pretty pony. Secondly, in the Thursday next universe characters can exit the literary universe and enter the main one, so yes it could literally send a minotaur into the real world to eat Stan Lee, at leas according to the rules of its universe.

How would he do this without getting sued?

Originally posted by Mr Master
That would never happen, not ever.

Only the Marvel Company has a say in what happens in their Comics.

Do you really believe that some character/drawing from some other Comic book company can actually affect another Company in any way without any say from said company being affected?

You buggin, but beyond that like I said before,

God/Toaa draws everything, it's all just pieces of paper.

So if this character you speak of appears in comics,
well then he can be crumbled up and thrown in the trash.

And this is ridiculous. (not you the company that allowed this into publication)

Originally posted by Akuki
It's not a comic book, it's actually a pretty funny series of novels. In the series, there is a seperate dimension housing all literary figures, and the first editions of all published works ever made. The main character Thurday, is a detective in Jurisfiction or the policing body of literature, for example one of the stories is where she has to go track down a Minotaur which has escaped from the ODyssey and is hiding out in in Pulp fiction. The god of text has basically absolute control over this entire realm and everything in it, and there are plenty of instances in which events in the fictional realm have effects in the realm world, for example a character who gets into the first edition of Jean Eyre was able to alter the entire storyline in all editions of it.

That's cool but honestly it's all inconsequential.

The bottomline is that there's absolutely no one that can take out God/Toaa in Marvel.

Whatever the power/capability of any character from any source outside of Marvel is,
means absolutely nothing here.

Concerning God/Toaa only Marvel has any significance.

You would have to literally kill every Writer and Artist in the REAL World
that works for Marvel in order to make God/Toaa stop functioning. Not gonna happen unless they're crazy

Again,

God/Toaa (from a fictional standpoint) are supreme in the Marvel comic Reality.

God/Toaa (from a non-fictional perspective)
are based on REAL People ... the Artists and Writers of Marvel Comics, co.

So Thursday may be the man in his World but he ain't jack in Marvel. (unless Marvel says so)
and in order to appear in Marvel Comics,
you have to be created and drawn, atleast in part (if it's a cross-over)
by God/Toaa. swank

If you say so, there's still plenty of times in that series where fictional characters have escaped and attacked nonfictional characters. my personal favorite is when Emperor Zhark(a bad knock off on Darth Vader) goes and threatens his writer to prevent him from killing him off in the novels. Anyways can we agree that the Presence would be toast then since he doesn't seem to have the same confirmed real world presence? Also since the god of text has been shown to be able to alter books other than the ones it appears in without the permission of outside authors, unless we get into a really complicated discussion about the 4th wall, the god from thursday next takes it because it can destroy any book without the permission of its author.

Originally posted by Akuki
If you say so, there's still plenty of times in that series where fictional characters have escaped and attacked nonfictional characters. my personal favorite is when Emperor Zhark(a bad knock off on Darth Vader) goes and threatens his writer to prevent him from killing him off in the novels. Anyways can we agree that the Presence would be toast then since he doesn't seem to have the same confirmed real world presence? Also since the god of text has been shown to be able to alter books other than the ones it appears in without the permission of outside authors, unless we get into a really complicated discussion about the 4th wall, the god from thursday next takes it because it can destroy any book without the permission of its author.

Give it up fanboy. No fictional character is beating a real life person(s). Have you ever heard of the word retcon?

Originally posted by tooa/presence
Give it up fanboy. No fictional character is beating a real life person(s). Have you ever heard of the word retcon?

Originally posted by Akuki
This character is basically the living embodiment of that concept.

But, it's harmless to us.

Originally posted by Akuki
This character is basically the living embodiment of that concept. Is there the same link extablished with the Presence in DC to a real person?

I never said Presence would beat or even stalemate TOAA. Fiction cannot be the living embodiment of anything, fanboy.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
But, it's harmless to us.

Originally posted by Akuki
yes, but it doesn't need to hurt the actual people, it just needs to retcon the universe so that real people aren't considered TOAA. As for my comment about the presence I was simply asking that because if the presence isn't linked to an actual person in the real universe the the god of text from the Thursday next series can take him down pretty easily. And what's with the attacks? I think I've been pretty reasonable backing up my claims so far.

And then TOAA retcons it into oblivion. Then TOAA takes a paper shredded and shreads the thing into oblivion. Then TOAA takes a shit on it. Then TOAA lights it on fire. The list can go on and on. And no you haven't made any reasonable arguments because you can't reasonably argue that a ficitonal character can beat a real life person.

Originally posted by tooa/presence
And then TOAA retcons it into oblivion. Then TOAA takes a paper shredded and shreads the thing into oblivion. Then TOAA takes a shit on it. Then TOAA lights it on fire. The list can go on and on. And no you haven't made any reasonable arguments because you can't reasonably argue that a ficitonal character can beat a real life person.

I'm going to create my own universe, its going to be a fanfic of DBZ, and I'll be God, or the Daioshin-Kaioshin. 😆

Originally posted by Akuki
Can someone please answer my question about the presence please? As for the rules about TOAA, I'm simply stating that if this was played according to the rules of The Thursday Next universe, The god of text has the feats to do exactly what is required to defeat TOAA, namely killing the real world artists and writers, however since we are running this by real world rules, i will agree that TOAA cannot be taken out by a fictional character.

Thank you for not be absent minded. As for the Presence, the Presence is suppose to be the representation of the Abrahamic God. It is a very poor representation and the Presence is not the artist and writer. Therefore it is plausible that the god of text can win or stalemate but since they are suppose to be fictional supremes it is all opinion. I'll go with Presence since DC is greater 😄

Originally posted by Akuki
The god of text has the feats to do exactly what is required to defeat TOAA, namely killing the real world artists and writers, however since we are running this by real world rules

Ok as the presence isn't a real world person then the God of text wins this, the ability to rewrite the DC universe so that it doesn't include the presence wins the day, and as the presence has no real world component to correct the changes that can't be affect by TGOT, TGOT wins.