Originally posted by TricksterPriestThere's a difference between the battery as a stationary object, and someone using it as a source of power. Parallax was able to destroy and create universes.
Um......no. Spectre>AM>Parallax.AM destroyed the central battery and turned it's power back onto itself.
But either way, that's all relative to opinion I guess. The important part is recognizing Spectre as above both. 😄
Originally posted by JuntaiFrom a remote location, AM manipulated the energies of the CB, and turned those energies back on the Guardians.
There's a difference between the battery as a stationary object, and someone using it as a source of power. Parallax was able to destroy and create universes.But either way, that's all relative to opinion I guess. The important part is recognizing Spectre as above both. 😄
The energies AM manipulated were the same that Parallax housed.
So I'd tend to agree with Trickster...
Spectre > AM(But not by much) 😛 > Parallax.
Originally posted by Merlynspectre used various sorcered magics and all that tp help him in trying to defeat the am. he needed other power sources as well. am couldnt be stiopeed by the spectre alone. hence he spectre had lots of help.
From a remote location, AM manipulated the energies of the CB, and turned those energies back on the Guardians.The energies AM manipulated were the same that Parallax housed.
So I'd tend to agree with Trickster...
Spectre > AM(But not by much) 😛 > Parallax.
Let's get a few things clear :
Spectre (Pre-Crisis) had infinite power and was omnipotent . This was stated , but due to the fact that he failed to stop the Crisis , God depowered him and stripped him of his omnipotence . In Spectre v2 , we clearly see a weakened Spectre struggling against beings not as powerfull as Anti-Monitor for example . Unlike in v2 , in Spectre v3 he is written clearly more powerfull , twoards the end of the series even entering the Source and then experiencing how it is to be God , literally becoming the Presence . In Spectre v4 (Hal's run on the Spectre) , he also became debatably more powerfull than he previously was in v3 , and he still had a lot to learn in controlling and using Spectre's power . It was also stated that the power he had as Parallax is like a flickering candle next to an exploding sun , that is Spectre . Next followed Day of Vengeance where he was jobbed and made look pretty pathetic and thereafter he bonded with Crispus Allen , currently being stated to be omnipotent , but we haven't really seen him do something big yet .
So as you can see , since his depowerment in Crisis on Infinite Earths he became more and more powerfull , practically returning to how he formerly was .There is no doubt that Spectre was more powerfull than Anti-Monitor , without the help of any outside source and there's also no doubt that he was stronger than Parallax . As for Anti-Monitor vs Parallax , Anti-Monitor is most likely stronger .
Originally posted by quanchi112Huh? 😕
am couldnt be stiopeed by the spectre alone.
In a nutshell,
AM journeyed to the beginning of time, in an attempt to destroy all creation, before it was created. [ie. he was going to make the AMU all that ever existed].
Spectre prevented AM from accomplishing this task.
Thus, Spectre did stop AM. 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007he didnt stop him permanently he stoped this action. superman stopped him permanently.
Huh? 😕In a nutshell,
AM journeyed to the beginning of time, in an attempt to destroy all creation, before it was created. [ie. he was going to make the AMU all that ever existed].
Spectre prevented AM from accomplishing this task.
Thus, Spectre did stop AM. 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112Spectre stopped AM's action of obliterating creation from it's starting point.
but my point has always been that am was still a menace and still needed to be dealt with.
spectre remained comatose and didnt actively participate in his death.
So this "in general" statement you made:
Originally posted by quanchi112
am couldnt be stiopeed by the spectre alone.
Was incorrect. 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007killed. am couldnt be killed by spectre alone. it took spectres actions and the actions of darkseid,luthor,superman ,etc to put an end to this menace once and for all.
Spectre stopped AM's action of obliterating creation from it's starting point.So this "in general" statement you made:
Was incorrect. 🙂
translation😖pectre needed lots of help.
Parallax beat spectre while fighting the heroes of DC
No he didn't .
why is that battle not an indication of who would win?
Firstly because he didn't beat Spectre . And secondly because Hal , the one who experienced both powers , said that in comparison to the Spectre , Parallax's power is like a flickering candle next to an exploding sun .