Everything said in the second paragraph is true, and for the record, Sephiroth does have powerful TK as well, not half-assed TK like I think some believe. He made a building fall with telekinesis while showing minimal effort.
Nihilus seems to be have this in the bag though.
About the regenerating part, I think he means he regenerated into Sephiroth via Kadaj's body, however it was due to the Jenova cells Kadaj was carrying.
Originally posted by DX5
Everything said in the second paragraph is true, and for the record, Sephiroth does have powerful TK as well, not half-assed TK like I think some believe. He made a building fall with telekinesis while showing minimal effort.Nihilus seems to be have this in the bag though.
About the regenerating part, I think he means he regenerated into Sephiroth via Kadaj's body, however it was due to the Jenova cells Kadaj was carrying.
A building? Le'gasp. Nihilus lifted The Ravager, a 1200 meter battlecruiser into orbit 😛 And that's only the length. Imagine the weight of the battlecruiser.
Originally posted by SHM1. You missed my actual point. My point was he can do a feat like that while weakened, and while enslaving probably 1,000s of minds and holding a broken ship together with TK.
Nihilus can kill people and destroy entire planets, by "sucking" the Force out of them. But this wont work on Sephiroth, because he doesn't depends of the Force to live.
This is what I meant.I know the Force can affect him, but AC Sephiroth is basicaly the new Jenova. 100% of his body is made of J-cells, and by consequence, he doesn't need to breath, sleep, eat, and have infinite stamina. Not to mention that he have Jenova's regeneration powers(he recreated/regenerated his entire body from a few J-cells in a box, in seconds).
What could Nihilus do to kill him permanently?And those are just the characteristics of his physical body. He have many diferent powers he can use to attack Nihilus.
2. Jesus Christ. Kadaj drank the J Cells, and TRANSFORMED into Sephiroth. Sephiroth never regenerated from shit. Though for an answer to your question, he can hold him with TK while electrocuting him and literally draining his life(which can be used on beings without the Force, it just drains your life).
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. You missed my actual point. My point was he can do a feat like that while weakened, and while enslaving probably 1,000s of minds and holding a broken ship together with TK.
I agree that's very impressive. But it's comparable to Sephiroth holding back the most powerful spell in the world, while controling Jenova's body, the clones, and regenerating his own body.
2. Jesus Christ. Kadaj drank the J Cells, and TRANSFORMED into Sephiroth. Sephiroth never regenerated from shit.
If that was true, then Sephiroth would have "possesed Kadaj"(as you said) and transformed Kadaj's body into himself, in the begin of the movie.
There is a reason why the brothers needed the J-cells, you know. Because Sephiroth needed them to return to the physical world. He needed a physical body, formed of physical matter, not a spirit body like Kadaj's. The J-cells were the physical matter used by him to form his new body.
And that's where his regeneration comes from. He created a new body from a few cells in a box. Therefore, he could use those cells to recreate a lost limb, or heal wounds, or whataver.
Though for an answer to your question, he can hold him with TK while electrocuting him and literally draining his life(which can be used on beings without the Force, it just drains your life).
That could be a problem. But we have to consider other factors, like: Can Nihilus scape from Seph's TK? Can Nihilus react to his speed? Can he block Seph's magic?
Ah, and did I mention that Jenova's body(aka Sephiroth's body in AC) can turn intangible?
Originally posted by SHMill give you that, but from what i remember that took time 😬
I agree that's very impressive. But it's comparable to Sephiroth holding back the most powerful spell in the world, while controling Jenova's body, the clones, and regenerating his own body.
Originally posted by SHM
If that was true, then Sephiroth would have "possesed Kadaj"(as you said) and transformed Kadaj's body into himself, [b]in the begin of the movie.There is a reason why the brothers needed the J-cells, you know. Because Sephiroth needed them to return to the physical world. He needed a physical body, formed of physical matter, not a spirit body like Kadaj's. The J-cells were the physical matter used by him to form his new body.
And that's where his regeneration comes from. He created a new body from a few cells in a box. Therefore, he could use those cells to recreate a lost limb, or heal wounds, or whataver.[/B]
Originally posted by SHM1.i think the question is wether nihilus can counter seph's tk with his own 😬
That could be a problem. But we have to consider other factors, like: Can Nihilus scape from Seph's TK? Can Nihilus react to his speed? Can he block Seph's magic?
Originally posted by SHMis that where he rose through a floor...slowly?
Ah, and did I mention that Jenova's body(aka Sephiroth's body in AC) can turn intangible?
Originally posted by MadMel
1.i think the question is wether nihilus can counter seph's tk with his own 😬
The question is if Sephiroth's TK is strong enough to match Nihilus. We all know that with enough will-power, a Star Wars character can go against various telekinetical attacks. We also know that they can use telekinetical attacks with nothing but a thought (Obi-Wan just thought about an object and it was his force grasp).
Again, the question in this matter is if Sephiroth is strong enough to keep the TK up if he happen to get it applied to Nihilus before Nihilus get it applied on him.
Originally posted by SHM1. I disagree. Nihilus' TK feats are superior IMO. Holding a ship as "ravaged"(lol) as the Ravager during Hyperspace would take amazing power and control over TK. Also, although Holy is powerful, it is virtually weightless, it is like a corrosive gas that kills threats to the planet.
I agree that's very impressive. But it's comparable to Sephiroth holding back the most powerful spell in the world, while controling Jenova's body, the clones, and regenerating his own body.If that was true, then Sephiroth would have "possesed Kadaj"(as you said) and transformed Kadaj's body into himself, [b]in the begin of the movie
.There is a reason why the brothers needed the J-cells, you know. Because Sephiroth needed them to return to the physical world. He needed a physical body, formed of physical matter, not a spirit body like Kadaj's. The J-cells were the physical matter used by him to form his new body.
And that's where his regeneration comes from. He created a new body from a few cells in a box. Therefore, he could use those cells to recreate a lost limb, or heal wounds, or whataver.That could be a problem. But we have to consider other factors, like: Can Nihilus scape from Seph's TK? Can Nihilus react to his speed? Can he block Seph's magic?
Ah, and did I mention that Jenova's body(aka Sephiroth's body in AC) can turn intangible? [/B]
2. Nope. He needed the J Cells to complete the transformation. I mean dude, it was even clearly stated KADAJ would TRANSFORM into Sephiroth.
3. Can Nihilus escape Sephiroth's TK? No, he can overpower it with his own.
React to his speed? Well, Nihilus is a tremendously powerful Sith Lord, and even weaker Sith or Jedi can use Force Speed to become much faster.
Block Sephiroth's magic? There is defensive Force Powers out there, and a lightsaber can block most as well.
In that cutscene, this intangibility you like to bring up worked pretty slow.
Darth Nihilus has one.
The people who made Darth Nihilus int he first place need to die in hell.
I can somewhat understand letting Luke Skywalker have insanely strong force powers that have pretty much no limits, thats kind of acceptable, but why create a character that can drain the life out of a whole ****en planet.
Originally posted by Spidervlad
Darth Nihilus has one.The people who made Darth Nihilus int he first place need to die in hell.
I can somewhat understand letting Luke Skywalker have insanely strong force powers that have pretty much no limits, thats kind of acceptable, but why create a character that can drain the life out of a whole ****en planet.
Well, Nihilus had so much power that he was actually dying. I find that good enough excuse to be so powerful.
"Devour the force or DIE!"
Originally posted by SpidervladBut his power had its drawbacks.
Darth Nihilus has one.The people who made Darth Nihilus int he first place need to die in hell.
I can somewhat understand letting Luke Skywalker have insanely strong force powers that have pretty much no limits, thats kind of acceptable, but why create a character that can drain the life out of a whole ****en planet.
He would weaken when not devouring life, which means he had to do it often.
He was more a force of nature than a living thing, to quote Kreia,"He is already dead, it is just a matter of time before he falls."
He viewed life as an existence with only one purpose, to die. He was no longer really human, his hunger completely controlled him, which later became a weakness to him when he encountered the Exile.
He still had those powers, did he not?
Well all die eventually. We know we were going to die. And so did he, so I don't find that much of a difference.
If I'm good at killing, and I have to kill to stay strong, that's not that much of a disadvantage taking in the fact that its so easy for me to do, no?
And I thought he was punished and started weakening because he tried to consume The Exile's force. So truthfully speaking, normally, against most jedi, sith and beings, he wouldn't have that disadvantage at all.
Originally posted by SpidervladHere's the thing, his mind, his very state of being, is warped due to his hunger. His hunger consumed his mind and soul long ago, although he has great power, he only uses it to satiate his hunger, which in the long run will do him no real good, if he was not stopped, he would have devoured all life in the galaxy, and eventually himself.
He still had those powers, did he not?Well all die eventually. We know we were going to die. And so did he, so I don't find that much of a difference.
If I'm good at killing, and I have to kill to stay strong, that's not that much of a disadvantage taking in the fact that its so easy for me to do, no?
And I thought he was punished and started weakening because he tried to consume The Exile's force. So truthfully speaking, normally, against most jedi, sith and beings, he wouldn't have that disadvantage at all.