Originally posted by D-Block
I'm not sure if she is stronger than Marvel's Hercules since there are alot of different Gods that have the same name according to the Trials of Shazam. But WW isn't strong as Captain Marvel Since he can mesh Powers like Hercules and Atlas plus the Power of Zeus boost all the other powers anyway. If She isn't as Strong as Supes she's definitely not as strong as Capt. But she is in the area where she can fight them and trade blows for a while.
Captain Marvel is far weaker than Superman. This is a fact.
There is one and only one Hercules of D.C. Thus WW is stronger than him. Captain Marvel doesn't get his powers from Atlas. And the power of Zues is of lightning (not strength). Also feat wise, WW is far stronger than Captain Marvel (but somewhat less durable).
Originally posted by h1a8
Captain Marvel is far weaker than Superman. This is a fact.
There is one and only one Hercules of D.C. Thus WW is stronger than him. Captain Marvel doesn't get his powers from Atlas. And the power of Zues is of lightning (not strength). Also feat wise, WW is far stronger than Captain Marvel (but somewhat less durable).
far weaker? every time they fight, it's pretty evenly matched. and what do you mean he doesn't get powers from Atlas?
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Originally posted by tjcoady
far weaker? every time they fight, it's pretty evenly matched. and what do you mean he doesn't get powers from Atlas?Solomon
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Sorry. Your right. I was just thinking he doesn't get any strength from Atlas but just stamina.
But most foes with superstrength and durability seems to be evenly matched with superman. It doesn't that they have the same strength.
For example, if someone who can lift just 100,000 tons (far under Superman) but was super fast, had super durability, and flight then they to would seem to be evenly matched with superman if they fought him.
Now by logic,
Assume CM strength is greater than or equal to Superman's. Since WW is stronger than CM (as stated by D.C.) then she is stronger than Superman too. We get a contradiction as WW is not stronger than Superman. Thus the assumption CM's strength is greater or equal to Superman's is false. Hence, CM's strength is less than Superman's.
Originally posted by h1a8According to the Trials of Shazam, the Gods he draws from are above the Earth based ones.
Captain Marvel is far weaker than Superman. This is a fact.
There is one and only one Hercules of D.C. Thus WW is stronger than him. Captain Marvel doesn't get his powers from Atlas. And the power of Zues is of lightning (not strength). Also feat wise, WW is far stronger than Captain Marvel (but somewhat less durable).
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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Well DC has combined all thier herculeses into one. The herculese that powers captain marvel is the same one that wonder woman is stronger than. he's got a new series coming out soon.
IIRC WW only went up against 1 of the Hercs once, and it wasnt much of a fight as she flipped him; it was FAR from conclusive proof she was stronger than him.
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Originally posted by h1a8
Captain Marvel is far weaker than Superman. This is a fact.
There is one and only one Hercules of D.C. Thus WW is stronger than him. Captain Marvel doesn't get his powers from Atlas. And the power of Zues is of lightning (not strength). Also feat wise, WW is far stronger than Captain Marvel (but somewhat less durable).
Captain Marvel isn't weaker than Supes. And Zeus power is used to boost the other powers, Caps Durability, and to fuel the lighting. WW feats saying that she's stronger Cap stalemated Supes in an arm wrestling contest.
Originally posted by Soljer
And you're wrong. Billy draws his strength from the Lord of Magic Hercules.Diana is stronger than the Hercules of the Greek Pantheon.
They are two VERY different entities.
Your wrong. Why did they use the name hercules then? For if Zues' son name was Duddy instead of Hercules then you better believe that it will be said that Cap Marvel draws his strength from Duddy. For there is only one Hercules, as the exact d.c. image of him in spirit form was shown in Trials of Shazam which wholeheartedly proves it is zues' son. It is just by the means of magic that hercules strength is duplicated in one. Just the same as Thor's hammer grants those who are worthy with his strength.
Originally posted by h1a8Jesus H Christ.
Your wrong. Why did they use the name hercules then? For if Zues' son name was Duddy instead of Hercules then you better believe that it will be said that Cap Marvel draws his strength from Duddy. For there is only one Hercules, as the exact d.c. image of him in spirit form was shown in Trials of Shazam which wholeheartedly proves it is zues' son. It is just by the means of magic that hercules strength is duplicated in one. Just the same as Thor's hammer grants those who are worthy with his strength.
Lord of Magic are not the Greek Gods.
They happen to share the same name.
How many people do you know that are named Ryan? I know a bunch. One of them is about one hundred and ten pounds, and probably couldn't even do a pull-up.
I'm a SHIT load stronger than Ryan.
However; that doesn't make me stronger than Ryan
Originally posted by h1a8
Your wrong. Why did they use the name hercules then? For if Zues' son name was Duddy instead of Hercules then you better believe that it will be said that Cap Marvel draws his strength from Duddy. For there is only one Hercules, as the exact d.c. image of him in spirit form was shown in Trials of Shazam which wholeheartedly proves it is zues' son. It is just by the means of magic that hercules strength is duplicated in one. Just the same as Thor's hammer grants those who are worthy with his strength.
honestly, this just doesn't make any sense.
Originally posted by Soljer
Jesus H Christ.Lord of Magic are not the Greek Gods.
They happen to share the same name.
How many people do you know that are named Ryan? I know a bunch. One of them is about one hundred and ten pounds, and probably couldn't even do a pull-up.
I'm a SHIT load stronger than Ryan.
However; that doesn't make me stronger than Ryan
what are you saying? You certainly cannot deny the exact image of D.C. hercules in the Trials of Shazam. Please explain what was that was about. 😕
Shazam is the acronym of all those with that particular power. It wasn't by pure chance that each name of Shazam was named after the exact counterpart which shares the same type of power. That would be a hell of a coincidence. So your argument is faulty due to it violating the "Sufficiency Principle".
And you must know that power duplication (or mirroring) is and has always been part of comics. It is just with the use of magic that powers can be duplicated or mirrored in another. This is how Mjlonir works (it grants those who are worthy with Thor's strength and power).
So whether it is the Lords of Magic or not is moot. For the exact power of each name in the acronym of Shazam is mirrored through magic to another-hence Lords of Magic. This is common sense.
