Originally posted by Avlonhawkeyes arrow isnt defeating thanos. sorry krona would get owned and badly. hell some heroes stopped him while thanos defeated all the abstracts at once. thanos would pawn krona easier than he pawned all marvel heroes in ig.
Krona would pwn those guys with ease..and you want to compare them to the spectre? 🙂
Originally posted by AstnerMost of that is extrapolation and hypothecal drivel, excentuated by greater than and less than signs. Your entire post was based off of an event that only occured hypothetically. LT wasn't scared to battle Adam with the IG, but he made Adam understand the consequences "Is that what kind of God you are?" Adam merely didn't have the will to go through with such action knowing the devistation it would cause.
Sure I´ll start.- The Living Tribunal and Adam Warlock knew the outcome of their fight, so Adam let him unmake the way the gems work in unision.
[B]Living Tribunal >> Infinity GauntletA incomplete Infinity Gauntlet overpowered the Ultimate Nullifier, which destroyed the Multiverse.
Infinity Gauntlet > Incomplete Infinity Gauntlet >> Ultimate Nullifier >> MultiverseThere are omniversal destroyers in Marvel, yet the Living Tribunal is only second to The-One-Above-All.
Living Tribunal >> Omniversal-buster (ie. Vangard, Unrestriced Cosmic Containers, Excalibur and the Amulet of Right etc.)
_________________________Now, when hsa Spectre, defeated one that threaten the Multiverse?
- Right the Anti-Monitor, but he needed other sources in order to defeat him, and fact is, he didn´t even die.
Spectre w/ 7 magicians > Anti-Monitor >> SpectreOthers he have faced with Multiversal destructive capabillities.
Mxyztplk, too bad he never defeated him, each time their power has clashed, Mxyztplk has commed out as the victor, and it always ended in a terrible ownage (World Funnest, Emperor Joker) [/B]
Spectre has destroyed and recreated all reality, more than once on panel. He has willed entire stratum of universes into and out of existance on panel. He has existed simulateously in all possible futures and presents, affecting everything that is and might be.
Mxy never defeated in Emperor Joker, Hal was in a position where if he acted it would destroy all that was, so he didn't. In Worlds Funnest, they just bopped him and left. Also Spectre rebuilt reality at the end of Emperor Joker. And Spectre left Mxy powerless in Day of Vengence, where Spectre is admitted weaker than he is with a host. He also defeated another 5 dimensional being in the Black Vengence Arc with a single eye beam attack.
Anti-Monitor was drawing on infinite universes of power, as well as the power of several universes worth of heros, and he was still bested by Spectre. Who shattered the multiverse and caused the reboot.
Originally posted by AstnerSpectre allowed it to happen. Getting kicked means nothing to him. Funny that he was walking around invisible to reality for the entire story, then when he lets Batman see him and Batman kicks him, suddely it's as if everyone acts like Batman whooped his ass. Never happened. Spectre can't even be touched by mortals unless he allows it to happen.
Do you know why it´s called non canon material? 🙄Besides I like this one more.
And I´m not even sure it is canon or not.
Not to mention there are no high level tech, or energy revertig abillities, just a kick, plain and simple.
Originally posted by quanchi112
hawkeyes arrow isnt defeating thanos. sorry krona would get owned and badly. hell some heroes stopped him while thanos defeated all the abstracts at once. thanos would pawn krona easier than he pawned all marvel heroes in ig.
Krona pwned Grandmaster calling on the power of the IG.
He also laughably pwned Galactus.
Originally posted by Juntai
Most of that is extrapolation and hypothecal drivel, excentuated by greater than and less than signs. Your entire post was based off of an event that only occured hypothetically. LT wasn't scared to battle Adam with the IG, but he made Adam understand the consequences "Is that what kind of God you are?" Adam merely didn't have the will to go through with such action knowing the devistation it would cause.
Spectre has destroyed and recreated all reality, more than once on panel. He has willed entire stratum of universes into and out of existance on panel. He has existed simulateously in all possible futures and presents, affecting everything that is and might be.
Mxy never defeated in Emperor Joker, Hal was in a position where if he acted it would destroy all that was, so he didn't. In Worlds Funnest, they just bopped him and left. Also Spectre rebuilt reality at the end of Emperor Joker. And Spectre left Mxy powerless in Day of Vengence, where Spectre is admitted weaker than he is with a host. He also defeated another 5 dimensional being in the Black Vengence Arc with a single eye beam attack.
Anti-Monitor was drawing on infinite universes of power, as well as the power of several universes worth of heros, and he was still bested by Spectre. Who shattered the multiverse and caused the reboot.
Originally posted by Juntaihal from the looks of it was powerless to act becuz of mxys power. spectre may have left mxy powerless in day of vengeance but was stomped like a flea by amped cap marvel. he needed to be carried off into space by eclipso. he was also tricked into this becuz without a host he is beyond a dumbass.
Most of that is extrapolation and hypothecal drivel, excentuated by greater than and less than signs. Your entire post was based off of an event that only occured hypothetically. LT wasn't scared to battle Adam with the IG, but he made Adam understand the consequences "Is that what kind of God you are?" Adam merely didn't have the will to go through with such action knowing the devistation it would cause.Spectre has destroyed and recreated all reality, more than once on panel. He has willed entire stratum of universes into and out of existance on panel. He has existed simulateously in all possible futures and presents, affecting everything that is and might be.
Mxy never defeated in Emperor Joker, Hal was in a position where if he acted it would destroy all that was, so he didn't. In Worlds Funnest, they just bopped him and left. Also Spectre rebuilt reality at the end of Emperor Joker. And Spectre left Mxy powerless in Day of Vengence, where Spectre is admitted weaker than he is with a host. He also defeated another 5 dimensional being in the Black Vengence Arc with a single eye beam attack.
Anti-Monitor was drawing on infinite universes of power, as well as the power of several universes worth of heros, and he was still bested by Spectre. Who shattered the multiverse and caused the reboot.
u say am was drawing up power from others while the spectre was drawing power from various sorcerers and what not. i love how biased you are and how u leave out key facts and only emphasise ones that make spectre look better.
spctre wasnt the one who killed am bottom line. darkseid and luthor along with superman killed him.
if u want to talk about thanos with the ig he faced abstracts and the universe finest at once. his mistress death and mephisto all turned on him at once and he pawned them all. he wasnt comatose and needed no outside help.
HE DID IT ALL ON HIS OWN.
key note no one bested thanos with the ig becuz no one who opposed him could.
Originally posted by Juntai
Spectre allowed it to happen. Getting kicked means nothing to him. Funny that he was walking around invisible to reality for the entire story, then when he lets Batman see him and Batman kicks him, suddely it's as if everyone acts like Batman whooped his ass. Never happened. Spectre can't even be touched by mortals unless he allows it to happen.
Originally posted by JuntaiI agreed with everything but the statement in bold.
Most of that is extrapolation and hypothecal drivel, excentuated by greater than and less than signs. Your entire post was based off of an event that only occured hypothetically. LT wasn't scared to battle Adam with the IG, but he made Adam understand the consequences "Is that what kind of God you are?" Adam merely didn't have the will to go through with such action knowing the devistation it would cause.Spectre has destroyed and recreated all reality, more than once on panel. He has willed entire stratum of universes into and out of existance on panel. He has existed simulateously in all possible futures and presents, affecting everything that is and might be.
Mxy never defeated in Emperor Joker, Hal was in a position where if he acted it would destroy all that was, so he didn't. In Worlds Funnest, they just bopped him and left. Also Spectre rebuilt reality at the end of Emperor Joker. And Spectre left Mxy powerless in Day of Vengence, where Spectre is admitted weaker than he is with a host. He also defeated another 5 dimensional being in the Black Vengence Arc with a single eye beam attack.
Anti-Monitor was drawing on infinite universes of power, as well as the power of several universes worth of heros, and he was still bested by Spectre. Who shattered the multiverse and caused the reboot.
Spectre never recreated anything in the EJ arc.
He just monitored Mxy's actions, while Mxy recreated everything... The only reason I know this is because I'm looking at the comic right now, and that's what Spectre himself said.
I guess I could scan it later if need be.
And COIE takes this, btw. 🙂
Originally posted by Avlon
1. It's canon.2. He did better than the grandmaster with the power of the IG.
2. Considering how Adam killed Eternity 3 times in the series, well I guess it´s safe to say that the Infinity Gauntlet is above him.
Originally posted by AstnerHowever you're presuming to know the outcome.
Seeing how you completely ignore, "We do both know the outcome of this."Zero Hour is mere timelines of one reality, what else can you be refering to.
You know what, I heard this bullshit about Spectre beating Mxyztplk and striping him of his power in DoV so much that I actually started beliving it.
And when I actually buy the series, and read them it hits me, Mxyztplk was never in the DoV.
So no, Spectre have never defeated Mxyztplk, but he have been defeated an humiliated by him twice.
I didn't mention Zero Hour there. But hey, he made a big Bang in that story too and recreted reality, while we're at it.
Mxy wasn't featured inside of Day of Vengence, but a Day of Vengence tie in, where he specifies he's powerless of Spectre's actions. Mxy never defeated Spectre ONCE on panel, let alone twice. Hitting him and running away isn't a clear win. And in Emperor Joker Mxy never confronted Spectre- however Hal believed he was in a position where actions would collapse time-space. =
Originally posted by MerlynAh, been a while since I read it. I remembered them running around fixing everything together.
I agreed with everything but the statement in bold.Spectre never recreated anything in the EJ arc.
He just monitored Mxy's actions, while Mxy recreated everything... The only reason I know this is because I'm looking at the comic right now, and that's what Spectre himself said.
I guess I could scan it later if need be.
And COIE takes this, btw. 🙂