Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
I like the song on this one, but it's gross (alien stuff)...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixmCbKdlLmE&mode=related&search=
Maybe that's us in the past, maybe aliens are just time-backwards, meaning we are looking at "us" being formed as we were many eons ago...??
Yes.
'Maybe'.
Originally posted by Fishy
God chose the Jews as his favorite too and he still created Palestinians.
He created Palestine b/c of Hagar(?). See, Sarah couldn't have babies, maybe she came from the "right" side of the family to marry Abraham, or maybe she maniplated herself into his life in order to appear "legit", or she had the "right" or approved looks for at least marriage, who knows. Anyway, she married Abraham, but somehow, Hagar was invited into the picture, not sure what REALLY happened outside what was written. Anyway, Sarah caused Hagar to be homeless (and pregno) at the same time, Sarah was playing God in Hagar's life simply b/c she was married to Abraham, she used Hagar as trash and God heard Hagar's cry, wh would have known, in Sarah's book, Hagar was nothing, maybe Hagar was ugly or the wrong color or the wrong face or the wrong family, who knows why Sarah felt in the right to treat Hagar as if she wasn't a child of God..., but God taught us all a lesson, didn't He? As we are looking at Palestine to this very day... again, another good reason why I DO NOT OPPRESS PEOPLE TO NO END, even if it appears that everything is turnng against them, I won't even laugh in their face or mock them (once that mocking/oppression is done, it's DONE esp. if that person is silently praying to God as they are being made example of or whatever is being done to humilate that person, so no one can tell when that person is praying to God about their dispare, even if it appears as if they deserve it, I don't add any more sticks to the fire, if I do, I may cause that person to be blessed more then if I would have either left them alone, or helped them out), b/c God may bless them more then necessary when the pendulum swings back the other way (to the positive "side" or the right side), see the pendulum may swing a small degree on it's own - both positive and negative, oppression causes it to swing more so on the negative then natural, and that cause it to swing back more so on the positive, more then what would naturally have happened if that person was left alone, esp. if that person is being randomly attacked on all sides. Can you imagine being homeless just b/c someone in a couple invited you into their life, and now, ego or jealousy crept in and that person is without a place to live, God heard Hagar's cry, that's why there is Palistine. Even when some folks talk about slavery, I still think that maybe something was done to cause that slavery to happen, like it wasn't an even that just "happened", as we all have had slaves in every culture/race on earth. Remember the "slavs", maybe they were oppressed so much that now, this is their time to shine, when before, a different look/race was shining and probably oppressing people all over the place, and that group now is probably not shining that much to the world at all, not stating any names or anything.
Either way, Palestine is b/c Sarah caused Hagar to be homeless for a moment, and she cried out to God b/c she was without a home, God promised that her son was going to be someone that Sarah's bloodline would have to contend with. Sarah probably thought that since she was the "legitimate" one, the one with the marriage, that God wouldn't care about Hagar, we all know that's not true. As we don't know how Sarah got to be the point of being "legitimate", but God knows.
(con't about Sarah and Hagar, and the oppressive way Hagar was treated)...it's nothing to ignore a person that's not even close to being oppressive, even if that person doesn't look another in the eye, but it's another to cause a person to be destitute (that person being Hagar), simply b/c of ego or "rights" when that person, Sarah, may not have been in the right to begin with, only GOD knows the details of why she was able to marry Abraham to begin with. Either way, if that story was true, Sarah's actions of causing Hagar to be homeless caused the empire(s) of the Middle East, simply b/c Sarah felt she came from the "right" side of the tracks and Hagar was nothing, esp. after that lady was INVITED into that couples life, doesn't matter if she was invited to "entice" the husband to see if he would be faithful, or if she was invited to be a surrogant for Sarah, she was invited into that couple's life and she was tossed aside like trash, it would have been better if they left her alone, but somehow they put that lady into their life and then, that lady was homeless and without.
We see what "nothing" becomes don't we? The Middle East, something that every empire on earth has had to deal with, in trade or in battle to expand way beyond their borders, they had to contend with Hagar's children, b/c Sarah felt she was legit and caused Hagar to be destitue b/c she couldn't see how Hagar would be anything to God.
Originally posted by Magee
UFO cant be real because we were made by God and he wouldnt make other beings because we his favourite so what we see is just like lights and stuff and God loves us.
It's people with your mentally that makes me hope there are other more advanced civilizations out there and they do visit us.
Would love to see the look on your faces if an alien interstellar vessel were to land. "B-b-but God loves us!"
Anyway, just wanted to state that if anyone thinks that Palestine is around b/c of oppression, they are right, SARAH created Palestine by oppressing a woman to be homeless and without, whom she/he invited into their home and that lady, Hagar had sex with her husband, Abraham, so Hagar was a dead woman walking after Sarah caused that lady to be homeless. Where was Hagar to go? To her family, I doubt that, as even in some of today's culture, even if Sarah and Hagar was of the same race/ethnicity/clan or different race/ethnicity/clan, Hagar's life was marked and she knew it. Moreover, Sarah never spoke to Abraham and asked what he thought of it, she just caused that other woman so much trouble that she cried before God about it. Back then, Sarah and Abraham's marriage may have been arranged, did Abraham love his wife, maybe so, maybe not, we don't know, was Sarah legit only b/c of the family she came from and was using her "powers" to screw Hagar's life, when either one of them invited her to either entice Abraham or sleep with him, and now, she's tossed out to dry and in those times esp. she could have been murdered or stoned to death.
Sarah created Palestine, the entire bloodline of revenge b/c Sarah was oppressive to Hagar and Hagar cried out to God.
We all have spiritual gifts and powers, as the bible says, we are all like gods but we die like men. Just b/c we have the power to use someone's body to entice a married man or sleep with him, doesn't make that woman trash, and if she is reduced in life b/c she followed orders, and if she prays to God, as most women would if they were being used that way, guess who is going to be seen as the oppressor? Sarah. And guess what happens? Palestine. And it's not for me to piggy back on Hagar's life and say "ha" to someone who doesn't want me around them, I can only piggy back on Hagar's life if it the same/similar thing was done to me. It's not fair to look at race/ethinicity/tribe if you didn't sip from the same cup of oppression, if you have, then you have an equal claim. If you didn't, then it's false to pretend to be under the same umbrella of suffering or later blessings.
Originally posted by RobtardWould love to see the look on your face when you God sends you to hell.
It's people with your mentally that makes me hope there are other more advanced civilizations out there and they do visit us.Would love to see the look on your faces if an alien interstellar vessel were to land. "B-b-but God loves us!"
Maybe the other side of the argument would be, would the public (the folks who knew about the situation b/t Hagar and Sarah), would the public accept Hagar's baby, would the child of Hagar be sexually attractive suitor for the next generation?
Anyway, I know this one song, its christian, but everytime I hear it, I think of HAGAR, but it's not meant for that, but still, I image her life in the desert and crying out to God:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIim2Hvz0sE
Does Anybody hear her - Casting Crowns
She is running
A hundred miles an hour in the wrong direction
She is trying
But the canyon's ever widening
In the depths of her cold heart
So she sets out on another misadventure just to find
She's another two years older
And she's three more steps behind
Does anybody hear her? Can anybody see?
Or does anybody even know she's going down today
Under the shadow of our steeple
With all the lost and lonely people
Searching for the hope that's tucked away in you and me
Does anybody hear her? Can anybody see?
She is yearning
For shelter and affection
That she never found at home
She is searching
For a hero to ride in
To ride in and save the day
And in walks her prince charming
And he knows just what to say
Momentary lapse of reason
And she gives herself away
Does anybody hear her? Can anybody see?
Or does anybody even know she's going down today
Under the shadow of our steeple
With all the lost and lonely people
Searching for the hope that's tucked away in you and me
Does anybody hear her? Can anybody see?
If judgment looms under every steeple
If lofty glances from lofty people
Can't see past her scarlet letter
And we never even met her
If judgment looms under every steeple
If lofty glances from lofty people
Can't see past her scarlet letter
And we never even met her
Never even met her
Does anybody hear her? Does anybody see?
Or does anybody even knows she's going down today
Under the shadow of our steeple
With all the lost and lonely people
Searching for the hope that's tucked away in you and me
Does anybody hear her? Does anybody see?
Does anybody even know she's going down today?
Under the shadow of our steeple
With all the lost and lonely people
Searching for the hope that's tucked away in you and me
Does anybody hear her? Does anybody see?
Think of the bloodline of Jesus, who was from the bloodline of Solomon, and who was also from the illegit relationship with Basheeba, who knows if she was of the same "race" or not, but she certainly was married. What man puts together let no one put under, but sometimes, "man" or "woman" plays games and acts as if their coupling is legit under the license of marriage, and to think that could have put Hagar's life on the line, or even Basheebas. OR destroyed the bloodline of Jesus, as if people knew, they would have stoned the child of Basheeba, what God does in the hearts of people sometimes doesn't match the Talmud/law, and that isn't even a Christian thinking, as even the story of Abraham showed that Hagar wasn't in the "right" but God blessed her anyway, why? She was oppressed by Sarah.
Originally posted by Lord Melkor
What the hell does this stuff about Bible has to do with
UFO, Czarina?
A lot of things don't make sense, a lot. Our ability or inability to recognize that there could be alien life or not is related to the Bible, related to our sense of who has the "right" and who is "not legit", we classify this by many things, bloodline (which was proven twice in the bible to be null in God's world, not man's world), race/tribe (which was again, messed up with Basheeba, where was she from, pray tell? A Canaanite from Ethiopia? She could have been a white/indian/african looking Canaanite, but to those folks, TRIBE was/is important), and what or how we view "alien", is it a spirit outside of the normal "carnation or incarnation"? (not to get into the fantasy movie "stardust"😉, but alien could be a fallen star, or a star brought down b/c some shaman knew the method to bring that star down for whatever reasons, entertainment, slavery, money, etc. What is alien, a spiritual entity? Or is it a funny looking skinny humaniod with bug-eyes? Sometimes, it's not only race that people have problems with...what could be alein is what's inside that person's body, and the "fearing" that person or "misusing" that person, or "harassing" that person, or dividng that person's love life b/c they think that person's spirit is alien and therefore, not of God, and therefore, there life is disposable, just like Sarah thought of Hagar. And whom did God listen to? The cry from the one who was made homeless.
Here's the same video but with a mature woman (not teens):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrSbYyYyi70&NR=1
You can think of the Sarahs of the world as the SAHM (stay at home women who have all the TIME and maybe more disposable income to attack the Hagars, all time in the world), and the Hagars of the world as working class women (nurse, engineer, scientist, doctor, cashier, nanny, police officer, politican, beautican, attorney), one that if the Hagar's mess up in a moral way, the Sarah's in the world will try to hurt the very livelihood of the Hagars. Either way, the Lord is magnified via oppression, that's why, even if I ignore folks I don't like b/c of the history of our relations, I never oppress ONE person from that group, I just ignore'm, which isn't a spiritual offense, not hardly oppressive at all. God heard the cry of the working class Hagar, the one made homeless.
The duality argument b/t Hagar and Sarah can be seen as moral issue or class issue, or tribal issue, either way, God heard the cry of the one who was banashed and marked to die b/c she was the one USED, her body was USED for the amusement or tool of Sarah (either to figure if her husband was faithful or to bare a baby), either way, Hagar was used, and for that, we have Palestine and the rest of the Middle East that fights against Isreal (no offense against Israel). God blessed the person who was outside of the bloodline birthright, and even Jesus came from the "odd" or outcaste or outsider, Bathsheeba.
I think this video is a better hoax recording
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
no matter how advanced they are, doncha think we'd have shot one down by now?
Not if they can fly vertically with a propulsion system that doesnt require accleration to reach top speeds of 500 mph. I think its all mumbo jumbo for the most part though, but you never know eh
Yeah, I seen that before, too bad that same clip was used in one that could capture a person's imgination to hate our country or be overty suspcious and could cause harm, serious harm to those who buy into it;
FF to 5.27 minutes, again, it's sad that people use their talent to ensteal fear in our gov't and leaders, and 1.4 million watched that video, if that video captures a person's heart and mind, they'll end up paranoid.
The music and video is kinda well done, but again, too bad it's used to make people feel uneasy about our gov't and leaders. Talk about jealousy at work.
God bless America!
Re: UFO footage found in the island of Hispaniola
Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
Hispaniola: DR (dominican Republic) and Ayiti (N. Indian name that most know as Haiti) both have had UFO citings, but a recent you_tube video is stating both footages are fakes, sighs, when are we going to really get to see one that's REAL???
Hi. Was that actually real or just people in make up and acting?