Debate Fallacies?

Started by ADarksideJedi3 pages

The fun part of about debating is cutting down what people say and correcting it or going by your view.It is a known fact however that most Dem will pick a debate and then say something about that person.
Weather it will be about race beliefs or whatever.So instead of debating on what that person say they will say things as "Well you just say that because you are from a rich family or so on"It is pretty pitiful if you ask me.
What can you do?jm

I debate all the time in game vs.(I'm a geek😄) and never once have I heard the term debate fallacies.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
The fun part of about debating is cutting down what people say and correcting it or going by your view.It is a known fact however that most Dem will pick a debate and then say something about that person.
Weather it will be about race beliefs or whatever.So instead of debating on what that person say they will say things as "Well you just say that because you are from a rich family or so on"It is pretty pitiful if you ask me.
What can you do?jm

Funny, you ridicule Democrats (I assume you really mean "liberals"😉 for improper debate behavior, yet you're the one pointing the fingers.

Originally posted by Robtard
Funny, you ridicule Democrats (I assume you really mean "liberals"😉 for improper debate behavior, yet you're the one pointing the fingers.
"Everytime you point a finger, there are three more pointing back at you."

Originally posted by Creshosk
"Everytime you point a finger, there are three more pointing back at you."

Did Chuck Norris say that?

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
The fun part of about debating is cutting down what people say and correcting it or going by your view.It is a known fact however that most Dem will pick a debate and then say something about that person.
Weather it will be about race beliefs or whatever.So instead of debating on what that person say they will say things as "Well you just say that because you are from a rich family or so on"It is pretty pitiful if you ask me.
What can you do?jm

Ah yes, jm. I forgot how awesome you are.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I debate all the time in game vs.(I'm a geek😄) and never once have I heard the term debate fallacies.

Are you serious? You do know Sandai right?

Originally posted by Creshosk
"Everytime you point a finger, there are three more pointing back at you."

You know, I actually thought "No there's 4 pointing back at you" when I read that.

I guess I shouldn't really broadcast that though huh?

Originally posted by Creshosk
"Everytime you point a finger, there are three more pointing back at you."
That is literally true, as a saying pretty worthless though.
Originally posted by StyleTime

You know, I actually thought "No there's 4 pointing back at you" when I read that.

I guess I shouldn't really broadcast that though huh?

Nah, it's alright, you just have a freaky hand.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
The fun part of about debating is cutting down what people say and correcting it or going by your view.It is a known fact however that most Dem will pick a debate and then say something about that person.
Weather it will be about race beliefs or whatever.So instead of debating on what that person say they will say things as "Well you just say that because you are from a rich family or so on"It is pretty pitiful if you ask me.
What can you do?jm
A-are you serious? Is that how you perceive yourself?
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
My problem is not with people citing logical fallacies, but with people citing them incorrectly.

Funny, that's the guy I was thinking about too.

Originally posted by Robtard
Did Chuck Norris say that?
It's possible... I remember there was this old cartoon about him and at the end of the episode he'd give advice.

Originally posted by Bardock42
What is worse imo is that the people just use them to disregard a point. Oftentime they are not applicable.
Yeah, it's much better to just call someone an idiot to disregard a point. That's a much more logical and well thought out thing to do.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah, it's much better to just call someone an idiot to disregard a point. That's a much more logical and well thought out thing to do.
I don't disregard points. But yes, it is better to call someone an idiot and give a reason for it (at least the first few times) than using logical fallacies incorrectly to dodge valid points.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I don't disregard points. But yes, it is better to call someone an idiot and give a reason for it (at least the first few times) than using logical fallacies incorrectly to dodge valid points.
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Rather ironic, don't you think?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Rather ironic, don't you think?
Not really. I expect you to say stupid things like you do. So no it's not ironic for you to say stupid things like that.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Not really. I expect you to say stupid things like you do. So no it's not ironic for you to say stupid things like that.

You are not the most intelligent fellow around, are you?

It is ironic that you accuse me of dodging points as well as being an advocate of stating logical fallacies at all times (regardless of applicability) and yet answer a post with something like "
Rather ironic, don't you think?".

Yet, I probably commit the logical fallacy of "pointing out Creshosk's bullshit" now, so, forget what I said.

Yes I know im not perfect myself but I know who this thread is about, somebody likes to use the word fallacy alot.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You are not the most intelligent fellow around, are you?

It is ironic that you accuse me of dodging points as well as being an advocate of stating logical fallacies at all times (regardless of applicability) and yet answer a post with something like "
Rather ironic, don't you think?".

Yet, I probably commit the logical fallacy of "pointing out Creshosk's bullshit" now, so, forget what I said.

What an incredible error to make.

Of course I didn't mean you answer with "Rather ironic, don't you think?" but "Whatever helps you sleep at night."

Be that as it may, of course my answer would in such circumstances be similarly ironic, but since they don't apply to me it doesn't really matter.

Anyways, disregard my earlier post (except for a few good laughs at irony at its best) and just read it as this:

Originally posted by Bardock42
You are not the most intelligent fellow around, are you?

It is ironic that you accuse me of dodging points as well as being an advocate of stating logical fallacies at all times (regardless of applicability) and yet answer a post with something like "Whatever helps you sleep at night.".

Yet, I probably commit the logical fallacy of "pointing out Creshosk's bullshit" now, so, forget what I said.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You are not the most intelligent fellow around, are you?
Don't confuse my being obstinate with being unintelligent. since you didn't pick up on it, my last response was little more than an elementary school retort of "I know you are but what am I."

Originally posted by Bardock42
It is ironic that you accuse me of dodging points as well as being an advocate of stating logical fallacies at all times (regardless of applicability) and yet answer a post with something like "Whatever helps you sleep at night.".".
Please, I'm just an idiot remember? It really shouldn't be ironic that I've given up trying to have any sort of civil discourse with you and stoop to your level of doing nothing productive and merely hurling insults around.

I had respect for you at one point in time, but you blew it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yet, I probably commit the logical fallacy of "pointing out Creshosk's bullshit" now, so, forget what I said.
Please, I'm not so stupid as to not recognize a thread devoted to "secretly" bashing me. So this isn't a debate.

Not to sound arrogant, but its obvious that you can't handle what I say or do since you have to resort to these childish tactics.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
The fun part of about debating is cutting down what people say and correcting it or going by your view.It is a known fact however that most Dem will pick a debate and then say something about that person.
Weather it will be about race beliefs or whatever.So instead of debating on what that person say they will say things as "Well you just say that because you are from a rich family or so on"It is pretty pitiful if you ask me.
What can you do?jm

*Laughgasm*

Typically in a debate the fun part for me, if it is one where winning is an option and a desired outcome, then it isn't about cutting down what the other side says and "correcting it" but simply to present a better argument, better evidenced, better supported.

When I did debating in school it was clear that the way to suceed was not to "attack" the person, their method or how they said something, but what was being said. I heard plenty of logical fallacies but the point was you knew what they were getting at. It didn't serve anything to get up there and waste ones time going "logical fallacy, debating fallacy" because then you wouldn't be countering their argument, just how it was presented.

Much better to present some actual rebuttal then just nit picking the othersides technique.

Like it or not, in this ADHD world we live in, Presentation is right up there with Validity.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
The fun part of about debating is cutting down what people say and correcting it or going by your view.It is a known fact however that most Dem will pick a debate and then say something about that person.
Weather it will be about race beliefs or whatever.So instead of debating on what that person say they will say things as "Well you just say that because you are from a rich family or so on"It is pretty pitiful if you ask me.
What can you do?jm
The way that I was taught in school to debate (which I don’t do all the time) is that one person purposes the question or topic and they post why or how and the other only comments on what the first person as said and after they answer or comment on their questions and then they ask their own and then back and forth. The purpose of a debate is not to “win” the debate per say but to express your points in a logical manner.

I normally don’t try and tear apart or attack the question, key word is normally unless I find the claim to be way off base or completely unfounded.