Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
1. you're putting words in my mouth, i never stated that he had ADHD or bipolarism, that example was placed there expressly.
bi-polar disorder, not bi-polarism.
No, you didn't say that he did. However, you presented the child as an example of someone who is showing the symptoms of ADHD (and for some reason bi-polar, which further shows how little you understand the disorders). The problem is, that child is NOT showing the symptoms of either, or at least, what you have described are not the symptoms of ADHD. My point is that, because you and everyone else in society think that misbehaviour = ADHD, too many kids are now on medication that wont help them. Your fault, not the scientists. So now, lots of people think that ADHD is made up, or that the treatments don't work because they don't for so many of the supposed ADHD cases (who don't actually have ADHD). This leads to people a) not getting proper treatment and b) massive distrust of the pharmaceutical and medical industries, even though the real problem is that people are dumb and don't know how to properly raise kids.
Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
2. and it's mature to admit when you don't know something, and in asking for an alternate route, that is based on what OTHERS have complained about, that somehow they don't have proper treatment.
You aren't admitting that you don't know something. You say in one breath that you don't know anything about ADHD, then in the next go on to talk about how treatment doesn't work and that scientists need to look at it spiritually. At best you are just being cheeky and attempting to keep an "out" to your argument, but you are certainly proposing that you know something about ADHD.
Lots of people are critical of ADHD and everything that surrounds it, as someone who studies the neurology of attention I am as well. There are many false diagnosis, however, these do not stem from the medical or psychiatric community. It comes from the fact that people, like yourself, don't understand the difference between childhood behaviour and ADHD, and then seek to medicate the child because we live in a society where a pill can fix anything.
Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
3. i never argued against the suggestion that the ones handling the meds for ADHD or bipolarism are probably over-dosages or misdiagnosis. i purposely didn't argue against it, so maybe i should have affirmed or acknowledge it to keep good folks like you at rest.
Again, you are leveling the blame at the people writing the perscriptions.
Look, your GP, even though he/she can prescribe you anything for any problem, it doesn't mean he is all that knowledgeable about it. Think about all the meds advertised on TV for ambiguous symptoms that all end with "ask your doctor about...."
However, even in most nations where medical care is covered by taxation, psychological or psychiatric care is NOT. and it is INCREDIBLY expensive. A proper test for ADHD is not available for most people. Given this, and that most people don't know the difference between ADHD and misbehaviour, people go to their GPs and insist that their child is in need of medication for their disorder. The GP can't send them for testing that they can't afford, doesn't have the expertise to do the test themselves, and is driven by the intrinsic desire to help people. Not to mention that most doctors have many patients and not a lot of time to double check every claim of ADHD.