Hulk Smash!

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
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What do you think would have happened to Namor if Herc wasn't there?

Do you read your own scans?

Hercules was thinking how it was as he had feared and the fact they were fighting in a DESERT had sapped a lot of Namor's strength.

Any class 100 in a desert is going to be having a serious advantage over Namor.

Really thats not a fair example and neither is Namor beating Hulk underwater. Both give an unfair advantage to the other.

Originally posted by janus77
just so that lg grok's it... Hulk's got an innate ability to traverse through dimensions and timestreams and HOME IN ON the sight of the initial gamma explosion that released/created him.

ermm he can't travel dimensions or time under his own power but he can find the gamma site no matter what. It's not limited to just that though, he once tracked down Strange by following his aura or something.

yep, not the best phrasing, I guess, but that's basically what I meant.
'cept also there's the matter of his +grabbing+ and physically rending energies, which fits with the occasion on which he swam through the timestream.

yeah, the Strange thing also ties in with his ability to see through illusions, to +see+ magic - and thus perhaps to out-muscle magic? - and see spirits and ghosts.

Hulk, as a total package, is phenomenally above regular bricks. and is quite comically misunderstood and underrated here.

Originally posted by Hercules
Do you read your own scans?

Hercules was thinking how it was as he had feared and the fact they were fighting in a DESERT had sapped a lot of Namor's strength.

Any class 100 in a desert is going to be having a serious advantage over Namor.

Really thats not a fair example and neither is Namor beating Hulk underwater. Both give an unfair advantage to the other.

I read it I was just showing you that in a non PIS fight that Namor would lose to the Hulk on land, desert or not, in the very comic that I got that pic from hulk is not just taking on Namor, but he is also taking on immortal Herc, and many others, this is something that Namor would never be able to handle, especially if he has trouble with Herc all alone. Namor busted up a much weaker Hulk back in the day. That Hulk had good fights with the Thing... today he could one shot Grimm if he got a full head of steam. This is not the same Hulk that he was back then.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
I read it I was just showing you that in a non PIS fight that Namor would lose to the Hulk on land, desert or not, in the very comic that I got that pic from hulk is not just taking on Namor, but he is also taking on immortal Herc, and many others, this is something that Namor would never be able to handle, especially if he has trouble with Herc all alone. Namor busted up a much weaker Hulk back in the day. That Hulk had good fights with the Thing... today he could one shot Grimm if he got a full head of steam. This is not the same Hulk that he was back then.

Desert makes a big difference to Namor though a BIG difference just like Namor fighting even current incarnation Hulk underwater would make a big difference to how he performed.

It also could be argued that Namor trying to take on Hulk in a desert solo was CIS and maybe even PIS.

So not the best example to prove your point.

namor could not take on both the West Coast and East Coast Avengers at once without being taken down, this is my point... Hulk can, and did, and is doing so presently, and will more than likely do it again in the future.

Originally posted by strengthkills
In a non PIS enviroment,then Hulk takes em all on at the same time and has a great chance at winning.

Who cares about versatility when you can hold two continents together, at this strength level his muscles would be so dense that there would be nothing that they could do against him.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Who cares about versatility when you can hold two continents together, at this strength level his muscles would be so dense that there would be nothing that they could do against him.

SHOULD be so dense. If we're going to apply real science he should weight like 100 tons too. I don't think Hulk's beating Dr.Doom at all. He's the second most powerful magician on earth.

And he doesn't hold back nearly as much as Dr.Strange. He'd be more than happy to teleport Hulkie into another dimension or blackhole.

Well it's a good thing the people who write comics aren't much for science right? Also in the past Hulk has beaten Dr. Strange's magics and he wasn't holding back.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Well it's a good thing the people who write comics aren't much for science right? Also in the past Hulk has beaten Dr. Strange's magics and he wasn't holding back.

When was this?

Strange has sent Hulk to another dimension with his magic in the past.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Who cares about versatility when you can hold two continents together, at this strength level his muscles would be so dense that there would be nothing that they could do against him.

As much as I like Doom, he'd probably lose against WWH. For someone to have so righteously humiliated Reed Richards and the rest of the FF, Doom's pride would force him to man up against Hulk and that'd be his downfall. WWH is too much. Unless Greg Pak writes in a cameo for Doom and he comes in and saves the day, I don't even think Doom could split 5/10 against WWH.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
I read it I was just showing you that in a non PIS fight that Namor would lose to the Hulk on land, desert or not, in the very comic that I got that pic from hulk is not just taking on Namor, but he is also taking on immortal Herc, and many others, this is something that Namor would never be able to handle, especially if he has trouble with Herc all alone. Namor busted up a much weaker Hulk back in the day. That Hulk had good fights with the Thing... today he could one shot Grimm if he got a full head of steam. This is not the same Hulk that he was back then.

If the "big" summer story arc were called "World War Wolverine" we'd have just as many fanboys trying justify Wolverine's win over Blackbolt or Namor. Its just a case of poor writing from people willing to sacrifice their integrity as well as all logic to force a mainstream character further down my throat. I hate these big story events partially because they make people forget 40+ years of comic history. Ive seen people on here swear that WW Hulk could take Superman, Thanos, or Darkseid and that if he got a open shot he'd be able to knock out Galactus. So for those rational thinkers among you, take threads like this with a grain, no a spoonful of salt.