quantim bands vs greenlantern ring

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The ring is plainly more powerful. The GL's upper feats are beyond the Q-bands ability to copy. And full potential? Well, we know what happens when you do that with the rings. You get Hal Parallax or Ion. I have yet to see one thing from the Q-bands that comes even close to that.

Straight fight between, lets say Wendell and Hal. Really good match. The problem with the Q-bands, and why they are regarded as weaker, is because they have weaknesses. There are certain energies and powers that they don't work on. Kinetic, magic, extra-dimensional, psionics, and matter manip. Although he could stop say, Sersi, from using her powers to matter manip by stopping the flow of energy, he could not stop her matter manipulation directly or reverse it.

2nd, his constructs require him to concentrate and focus on how strong he wants them. He can't boost them on the fly the way GLs can. Plus, he's never done the insane kind of constructs that GLs do. He couldn't create the entire JLA big 7 to fight for him, which is something we saw Kyle and Hal do.

Though the two are comparable, the ring wins out for sheer power and versatility. That being said, Wendell could take a few from a good GL. Phyla gets smoked. 😛

Originally posted by Rorschach
Enough willpower can override that failsafe. Parallax Hal killed with a GL ring.

And Kyle had some of the Ion power when he contained that Big Bang.

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

if U fail the Rings, they ca cut off; if U fail the QBs.....U get immolated.

I'll take a GL-Ring anyday thenk kew very much.

Tazer

Yo.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Full potential with a Green Lantern ring does not approach Parallax or Ion. That's an attenuation. When Hal absorbed the Central Battery in 'Emerald Twilight,' he didn't even use a Green Lantern ring. He took his off before stepping in and just claimed it with his person. Ion as we now see, is either Kyle imbued with the entire Power of the Guardians or the host of the cosmic entity Ion. And as far as I've read, Hal has never approached these levels of power with just his own Green Lantern ring. This thread isn't the 'Central Power Battery vs. the Quantum Bands.' It's the 'Green Lantern ring vs the Quantum Bands' in the hands of Hal.
And now that someone cleared this up for me and apparently the whole 'Kyle stopping the big bang feat' was all hyperbole and garbage, someone needs to bring up a new high end feat with just the Green Lantern ring itself.

John Stewart became almost (not quite, but almost) like an Oan by swallowing his Ring.

and wats the best we seen from a QB'er using simply them??

also, how can U call Kyle performing that feat "hyperbole"???

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
That's your choice because apparently you're evil and/or you wouldn't be good enough to use the Quantum Bands. This thread is about Hal, who I personally think would be good at using the Quantum Bands and wouldn't get blown up by them.

U dont have to be evil to get immolated by them, as we found out in the ish when Elvis put them on, and if evil were a determining factor then explain how Annihilus & Maelstrom were able to do so???

Tazer

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
no im using that as an example of how gl rings in general arent that uber. id still take quasar over any glers except maybe hal. and there you have a tossup. there was that whole yellow weakness and all and i feel that one who is more expereinced with the quantum bands can be more of a threat than one with a gl ring.

if a GL suffering the YW can beat Sinestro, then I dont see how Elvis would be any bit of a prob.

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

John Stewart became almost (not quite, but almost) like an Oan by swallowing his Ring.

and wats the best we seen from a QB'er using simply them??

also, how can U call Kyle performing that feat "hyperbole"???

Originally posted by Tazer
U dont have to be evil to get immolated by them, as we found out in the ish when Elvis put them on, and if evil were a determining factor then explain how Annihilus & Maelstrom were able to do so???

Tazer

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Because people act like he used his Green Lantern ring alone to contain a big bang, when what actually occurred is a combined assault of the OE, Superman and Ion energies to combat the threat. 'Hyperbole,' was putting it nicely.

You got it kind of mixed up.

The OE and Superman merged with Strange Visitor/Kismet cracked the armor, but Kyle was the only containing the Big Bang though he was using his GL ring + some of the Ion power.

Originally posted by Rorschach
You got it kind of mixed up.

The OE and Superman merged with Strange Visitor/Kismet cracked the armor, but Kyle was the only containing the Big Bang though he was using his GL ring + some of the Ion power.

I'd have to say the GL rings

Yo.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Because people act like he used his Green Lantern ring alone to contain a big bang, when what actually occurred is a combined assault of the OE, Superman and Ion energies to combat the threat. 'Hyperbole,' was putting it nicely.

I see this was addressed already so I'll leave it alone, altho I see U not really wanting to admit its viability

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Evil is a determining factor when the Quantum Bands have a choice between two bearers. It is clearly stated in 'Annihilation' by Phylla-Vell. Why is this even an issue?

quote from Phyla: "The Quantum Bands may not sentient, but they know evil when it touches them."

so apparently, even if yur *evil* theyll still work for ya (like Maelstrom & Annihilus) until theyre given a choiceas long as U dont immolate yurself (i.e. - pass the test); and man am I glad those GL-Rings can still be commanded to not work even if off yur finger.

GL-Rings FTW.

Tazer

Originally posted by DARKLORDCAEDUS
I'd have to say the GL rings

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If they'd ask me who would I'd rather be , Hal or Quasar, I would say Hal. Going with the ring.

Originally posted by xjustice69x
lol those are very flimsy ansers when it comes to determining which is more powerfull.

I didn't notice.

Originally posted by xjustice69x
sound like some philosofical mumbojumbo.

My shtick.

Originally posted by xjustice69x
and your last anser seals it up for the Qbands. if you can get a god complex from the qbands and would not from the GLring you are admmiting the Qbands are more powerfull

The GL rings have the lantern thing built in so that even though the user may become godlike they're forced to have some humility. That answer just demonstates that more thought was put into the power rings than the Bands.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The problem with the Q-bands, and why they are regarded as weaker, is because they have weaknesses. There are certain energies and powers that they don't work on. Kinetic, magic, extra-dimensional, psionics, and matter manip.

Sadly, with the way I am, I don't think I could use either device without it backfiring on me.

Yo.

and hell, atleast w/a GL-Ring U can grow yur arms back if the get cut off......... 😆

Tazer

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
This sounds like a pretty big weakness to me. If I want powers I want them to be rigged.

Sadly, with the way I am, I don't think I could use either device without it backfiring on me.

OP.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Full potential with a Green Lantern ring does not approach Parallax or Ion. That's an attenuation. When Hal absorbed the Central Battery in 'Emerald Twilight,' he didn't even use a Green Lantern ring. He took his off before stepping in and just claimed it with his person. Ion as we now see, is either Kyle imbued with the entire Power of the Guardians or the host of the cosmic entity Ion. And as far as I've read, Hal has never approached these levels of power with just his own Green Lantern ring. This thread isn't the 'Central Power Battery vs. the Quantum Bands.' It's the 'Green Lantern ring vs the Quantum Bands' in the hands of Hal.
And now that someone cleared this up for me and apparently the whole 'Kyle stopping the big bang feat' was all hyperbole and garbage, someone needs to bring up a new high end feat with just the Green Lantern ring itself.
That's your choice because apparently you're evil and/or you wouldn't be good enough to use the Quantum Bands. This thread is about Hal, who I personally think would be good at using the Quantum Bands and wouldn't get blown up by them.

yup, thats about right. i also think that hal would be good at using the quantum bands. if he could do more with the qbands than with the glring, now thats he question. i think it would take less conentration to use the qbands than it does to use a glring. with hal's will power, he'd be pretty uber with the qbads imo

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Something that most people don't remember about the Quantum Bands is that the constructs which are created don't fade away when the user loses concentration or gets knocked out. I see that as a distinct advantage. The Quantum Bands also never run out of power. The Quantum Bands don't have any lethal force restrictions on them. The Quantum Bands also do not have any weaknesses (which may not matter to someone like Hal, but he still has to fight fear and overcome it, just look at 'Sinestro Corps War'😉.

But I don't remember seeing Quasar ever drawing from an infinite energy source directly linked to the Quantum Bands. In the past, when he is outclassed by someone like the Surfer, he's had to steal energy from him to keep up.

So at their utmost potential, Hal could absolutely cheat and steal the Power of the Guardians. But on any average day, I do believe the Quantum Bands are better. BTW, what did Maelstrom do with the Quantum Bands? Does anybody know or have scans? Their potency definitely relies on how strong the user is.

I remember Kyle giving a guy his legs back perma. I also remember him making a rose or something perma for one of his girlfreinds. correct me tho, I could be wrong. The Quantum bands cannot manipulate Time, genetics, ect. GL ring for the win.