DMC Universe Vs Kain(LOK)

read kains feats....first none of them can kill kain...opening a hole into hell? since when can any of them do that, especially how are they going to get kain in it if he can teleport several miles almost instantly, if not instantly and turn into mist..even if they all tried to grab him hed simply mist through them or teleport half a mile away

he has immunity to their weaponry..has perhaps the most powerful sword in gaming and is likely to be able to kill almost any of them, especially the brothers with one slash of his sword, or one blast from it at long range

but his biggest power is that the whole universe of them is against them...all the characters inluding the weak ones which means he has basically infnite reaver charge, inspire hate turning hundreds against eachother, especially the sparda brothers and sparda himself then he has dimension shift to move through dimensions and strike them at instant speed from any angle through instant teleportation, can launch lightning from his reaver or call it from the skies, turn into thousands of bats to escape if he needs to get some distance between his enemies

his like Allucard on steroids, they wont be able to do anything to kain if their inspired hate and killing eachother and the other enemies, quicksilver making them go slow mo...hell kain can just stand back and launch soul death blasts into the area, instantly killing the main characters while Dante and vergil are ripping eachother and many of Kains enemies apart

Don't forget the Kain is invincible part!haermm

Originally posted by Burning thought
read kains feats....first none of them can kill kain...

i didnt 😉 one of the first things i said

...................

By the way, if you claim that Inspire Hate won't work on Mundus, then you agree that it shouldn't work neither on Sparda nor on Dante in their high demonic forms.
Mundus wasn't a god at all, he was just a high demonic lord just as Sparda and his heir, though with different powerset, more focused on destructive ablities, but in general Mundus was WEAKER than Sparda or Dante when the latter got his father's full power (I'm not claiming that Dante can do everything Mundus can do but even better, since it's ridiculous and their powersets are quite different). The king of hell and the warlord of hell army were just titles.
Both Sparda and Dante in their high demonic form (Sparda\Super Sparda form) were able to deflect\resist dark magic, even coming from true god (Despair Embodied).

And despite being "just a halfblood", Dante was called a demon of highest order even in Dreamwave comics adaptation of 1st DMC (I'm tempted to remake Dante's RT using those scans). He actually surpassed his legendary father in terms of power in DMC2.

perhaps is all i can say, thnking on it perhaps in their high forms they would be resistent, or, my assumption it would not work on Mundus is wrong, perhaps it will

also where does it say Despair embodied is a God, also another title i know but ime just curious, it means nothing because weve all seen it getting owned and its power is minute.

regardless if their not affected almost all other enemies will be

id still give kain winning this 7/10 if were assuming Inspire hate will not work on them and 9/10 if it does

The Despair Embodied was definetely more "godly" of a god that your beloved Elder God...a material form of all despair in the univerce apparing as fiery androginous creature.

Also, minor ones kill each other, that's fine, but you still have big guns (Sparda clan, Mundus, Despair Embodied, probably someone else of the bosses- the ones I've listed won't be affected for sure, I suppose) going straight for vampire's head...

what makes you think its more godly..the elder God claims it controls the fate of all beings in Nosgoth, can instantly regenerate lost tentacles and is the size of a planet, or at least a continent as well as being immaterial so few things can harm it, its surprising its bothered by the soul reaver but ofc thats a good example of the blades power not to menstion it seems to be in all time zones at once and knows almost all events except ofcourse those by kain

well the thing is, kain can inspire hate quicksilver...slowing down to a crawl all his enemies before he teleports to safety, you cannot claim nor would it be logical to assume quicksilver would affect the entire universe in a time capsule, that would be absurd, it has a range so while the DMC universe are stuck in this time laps kain can blast them with soul deaths

also none of them can harm him, their only chance is to knock him out but his endurance is incredible, the only thing that would do as such is perhaps getting hit by a constant stream of mundus meteors...a few sparda dragons but they are all slow attacks, Kain can just play the game of teleporting out of the way of any large attacks and destroying the heavy hitters, i mean there will be madness amongst the DMC universe as Quicksilver, Gryphon from DMC 1 i think it is and most of the lesser baddies start smashing the brothers and mundus around, as powerful as they are the lesser bosses are no joke either and would deal a great deal of havoc, enough for kain to soul blast the brothers and their father, possibly mundus.

Jackpot banishes Kain to hell like it did to Mundus.

BS....too much of it, where does it say Jackpot can banish things to hell, Mundus physical form was just blown the hell to bits by it so he went back to hell, theres no point in assuming it makes beings go back to hell

besides he needs Trish as well to do that didnt he, so hes gonna have a job protecting her or charging up before kain thrown em both into the ground and takes their guns from them with TK..also if they let it looe gl to them hitting mist...or the air itself if he teleports and be sure their prepared for a great deal of sword into their heads after that

Originally posted by Burning thought
BS....too much of it, where does it say Jackpot can banish things to hell, Mundus physical form was just blown the hell to bits by it so he went back to hell, theres no point in assuming it makes beings go back to hell

besides he needs Trish as well to do that didnt he, so hes gonna have a job protecting her or charging up before kain thrown em both into the ground and takes their guns from them with TK..also if they let it looe gl to them hitting mist...or the air itself if he teleports and be sure their prepared for a great deal of sword into their heads after that

Dante speed beats kain speed? once again on what grounds, not to menstion the jackpot is takes a while to charge so its nothing to do with dantes speed nor does it make a diffrence to the projectile

also prove to me that it sends them to hell

regardless, it would not hit kain, its simply not fast enough regardless of dantes speed

Dante can simply freeze Kain in time, so it wouldn't matter if Dante's speed matched Bowser's.

kain can also control time with the reaver...snap

also its debatable in itself wether quicksilver would actually work, since it doesnt seem Dante can use it whenever or whereever or that it would effect all beings and at the same time, hed be freezing Trish/Vergil...so kain just has to w8 until Dantes power runs dry and time powers are stop..then he kills them

Look whose in their universe. 💃 💃 💃

Still think he wins holmes?

Originally posted by Burning thought
Dante speed beats kain speed? once again on what grounds, not to menstion the jackpot is takes a while to charge so its nothing to do with dantes speed nor does it make a diffrence to the projectile

also prove to me that it sends them to hell

regardless, it would not hit kain, its simply not fast enough regardless of dantes speed

So Kain is as fast as Dante according to what? To the fact he can swing his sword in a blur motion? Regular human (not superstrong vampire) can swing butcher knife in a blur motion. The blur itself shows NOTHING.
Dante moves on supersonic speeds in his HUMAN form (cutscene before he gets swallowed by Leviathan)- that's faster that anything Kain can do, be it mist, bats or wolves. Kain has never deflected a friggin' arrow, while Dante deflects or cuts bullets and missles in midair.
Gameplaywise Kain's combat teleportation seems better because it's 4 jumps in a row, but you hit each opponent only ONCE and that's not instant kill AFAIR. Vergil's or Dante's combat teleportation while not impressive in numbers seems more strategic.

Originally posted by HonkyTonkMan
Look whose in their universe. 💃 💃 💃

Still think he wins holmes?

That's merely DMC\Darkstalkers crossover, so I won't put much faith in it. But given the overall Dante's powerset (including invulnerable Super Sparda form) it doesn't seem alike to Venom beating down depowered Superman one.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
So Kain is as fast as Dante according to what? To the fact he can swing his sword in a blur motion? Regular human (not superstrong vampire) can swing butcher knife in a blur motion. The blur itself shows NOTHING.
Dante moves on supersonic speeds in his HUMAN form (cutscene before he gets swallowed by Leviathan)- that's faster that anything Kain can do, be it mist, bats or wolves. Kain has never deflected a friggin' arrow, while Dante deflects or cuts bullets and missles in midair.
Gameplaywise Kain's combat teleportation seems better because it's 4 jumps in a row, but you hit each opponent only ONCE and that's not instant kill AFAIR. Vergil's or Dante's combat teleportation while not impressive in numbers seems more strategic.

deflecting arrows is not what he "would" do would he, and moving at supersonic speeds is suspect, is that the part when he is running down the wall? thats not necceserily supersonic unless ofcourse it says somewhere it is then i am mistaken, is there a video of it?

its not combat tele, its Dimension tele..when kain hits its powered to higher levels by the dimension energy as he says it does, if it hits one of the brothers it could be the last thing he sees, the reavers soul and blood draining combined with its power to blast opponents to pieces, ofcourse that was when it touched a human but when it hits one of the brothers its powered by dimensional energy as well, their not likely to be getting back up, especially if kain comes from above and hits their head, its coming off for sure.

Originally posted by HonkyTonkMan
Look whose in their universe. 💃 💃 💃

Still think he wins holmes?

hehe yeh rite, not in canon DMC..but can Jedah actually do much?, nobody no matter how many times ive asked for it can show me canon proof that he can "destroy universes" and stuff like that

kain will prob lose to him anyway, he will go unconcious with laughter at how ridiculous Jedah looks

The air around him starts burning because of tension, created by running faster than a speeding bullet... I've posted a video somewhere in that thread or in previous one, so you might have check him.

I know that it's dimension teleportation, I've used term "combat" just because Kain uses it in a combat.
I'm not talking about teleportation in a beam of light from SR1 now.