Originally posted by snoopdogg
Herc. wins. Unless they battle in the water then Namor wins. BTW what comic does it state Namor's black suit keeps him hydrated? I hear that alot but never say proof of it or anything. I ask cause when he fought Wolverine recently he had his suit on but had to jump in the pool to get powered back up.
Reed actually made the suit for him a while back. Don't remember the issue though.
FTR Herc for the majority. 7/10
Originally posted by Hercules
But we have seen Herc resist pressures underwater that Namor couldn't so that could be Hyberbole on Namor's part or just Herc ignoring him or again as Hercules still hasn't been offically upgraded to full immortal, him knowing that at the moment its true?In their previous fights there has been nothing in it, Namor is faster, Herc is stronger.
Namor has to close with Herc to fight him flying or not and he hasn't had a problem catching hold of him in the past. Hercules has out run a Jeep before and has caught speedsters with his reactions, so Namor's speed edge isn't huge.
All in all, I would say a slight majority to Hercules on land, water however is Namor's element and he would outmanuver Herc.
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I distinctively remember Hercules being called superior even in the ocean.Anyways, Thor one shotted Namor with a punch, while it was raining and he was hydrated as I recall. Just food for thought if we truly consider "Hercules = Thor".
If i recall, Thor hit Namor, Namor fell, then Thor flew off. The fight wasnt finished. Didnt Thor also mention finishing the fight at another time?
Also, Namor took a hit via sneak attack from Thors hammer to the head and wasnt ko'd, so.😬
Originally posted by jrodslam
If i recall, Thor hit Namor, Namor fell, then Thor flew off. The fight wasnt finished. Didnt Thor also mention finishing the fight at another time?Also, Namor took a hit via sneak attack from Thors hammer to the head and wasnt ko'd, so.😬
Thor hit Namor, and it's stated that the fight is over and the outcome isn't too the Invaders favor. Thor then goes on his way, and says that he'd return for with to their struggle. Either way Namor was down and it was even stated that the fight was over. Namor's even said his no match for Thor as I recall.
A sneak attack to the head? You mean when the mind controlled Thor tossed Mjolnir at him and hit him on the "side" in mid flight?
What's your point?
Originally posted by jrodslam
Im sure this is the scan thats mentioned. Thor hits Namor, Namor falls, and 1 panel later when Thor is flying off, Namor is standing. Thor states he shall return forthwith to their struggle.
How the hell can you tell his standing? I've heard plenty interpret it as a knock out and him lying down. It even looks like that female is down by the way it's drawn. Well I guess people see what they want to.
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Going by the narrator, and that scan, I'd say he was put down in one blow. Attempting to zoom in, it looks like Namor completely out as he grunts in the scan his hit, I cant tell much because of the quality in the panel afterwards unfortunately. I'd say based on what's stated and shown it's a pretty safe bet to say he was out. Especially basing on the fact that Thor had time to make a speech and fly away.
You know, we've already had this conversation before in other threads.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor hit Namor, and it's stated that the fight is over and the outcome isn't too the Invaders favor. Thor then goes on his way, and says that he'd return for with to their struggle. Either way Namor was down and it was even stated that the fight was over. Namor's even said his no match for Thor as I recall.A sneak attack to the head? You mean when the mind controlled Thor tossed Mjolnir at him and hit him on the "side" in mid flight?
What's your point?
If the fight was over, why would Thor state that he will return to continue their struggle. Namor fell, and Thor flew off. Thats why the fight was over. Not cause Namor ko'd.
The hammer appears to be thrown at the head from behind.
Anyhow, this isnt a Namor vs Thor thread. As stated and shown in the past, Namor and Herc have always appeared to be even on land. That will always be the case till either, the fight goes to water, then Namor will have the clear advantage or he starts to dehydrate, and Herc will have the clear advantage.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How the hell can you tell his standing? I've heard plenty interpret it as a knock out and him lying down. It even looks like that female is down by the way it's drawn. Well I guess people see what they want to.srug
Going by the narrator, and that scan, I'd say he was put down in one blow. Attempting to zoom in, it looks like Namor completely out as he grunts in the scan his hit, I cant tell much because of the quality in the panel afterwards unfortunately. I'd say based on what's stated and shown it's a pretty safe bet to say he was out. Especially basing on the fact that Thor had time to make a speech and fly away.
You know, we've already had this conversation before in other threads.
In the scan i have, its closer than whats provided by imageshack, and as Thor flies off, i can closely see the 4 ppl standing. I guess ppl do see what they want to.
Many ppl grunt when they get hit in comics and arent knocked out. As im going by Thors wors, i dont see why hed need to "finish the struggle" if Namor was knocked out. If that was the case, The struggle would be over and there would be nothing to return and finish.
Yea, i know we've talked about this in other threads.
Originally posted by jrodslam
If the fight was over, why would Thor state that he will return to continue their struggle. Namor fell, and Thor flew off. Thats why the fight was over. Not cause Namor ko'd.The hammer appears to be thrown at the head from behind.
Anyhow, this isnt a Namor vs Thor thread. As stated and shown in the past, Namor and Herc have always appeared to be even on land. That will always be the case till either, the fight goes to water, then Namor will have the clear advantage or he starts to dehydrate, and Herc will have the clear advantage.
I'd say to make sure his down permanently. I mean six feet under. He went on to practically a man in that issue with his lighting. It's a safe bet he flew away because Namor was out of it.
So we're using alternate Universes like Heroes Reborn are we?
Well if it's a pure physical contest, it would be at least on paper. Technically it's shown that "Hercules = Thor" physically.
Either way, equal or not Hercules wins in a brawl. I recall him being stated to be superior to Namor even in the water. Even in his own right it's stated Hercules can rock and wreck worlds. Based on that kind of strength, I'd put him in a different class than Namor. Of course those instances were in his interactions with Thor, so who knows.....
If we assume his the equal of Thor. Hercules wins in a brawl, in the land or the sea.
Even based on their own comparisons it's stated that Hercules is superior even in the sea. Based on that, Hercules would win in the land and could win in the sea. In a brawl.
Originally posted by jrodslam
In the scan i have, its closer than whats provided by imageshack, and as Thor flies off, i can closely see the 4 ppl standing. I guess ppl do see what they want to.Many ppl grunt when they get hit in comics and arent knocked out. As im going by Thors wors, i dont see why hed need to "finish the struggle" if Namor was knocked out. If that was the case, The struggle would be over and there would be nothing to return and finish.
Yea, i know we've talked about this in other threads.
Hmm, he seems definitely out of it when Thor hits him down in the third panel. In the following panel it looks like two individuals are down or lying on angle. Well, sure. The fight was even stated to be short and over. Thor even had time to make a speech, and then float off.
Never said they did. Like I said, he could mean to finish it permanently. Those were during the Invaders day, before Thor was taught by Odin his lesson. He was about to kill a human being in that issue. He thought he was a villain and the Invaders were part of it.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'd say to make sure his down permanently. I mean six feet under. He went on to practically a man in that issue with his lighting. It's a safe bet he flew away because Namor was out of it.So we're using alternate Universes like Heroes Reborn are we?
Well if it's a pure physical contest, it would be at least on paper. Technically it's shown that "Hercules = Thor" physically.
Either way, equal or not Hercules wins in a brawl. I recall him being stated to be superior to Namor even in the water. Even in his own right it's stated Hercules can rock and wreck worlds. Based on that kind of strength, I'd put him in a different class than Namor. Of course those instances were in his interactions with Thor, so who knows.....
If we assume his the equal of Thor. Hercules wins in a brawl, in the land or the sea.
Even based on their own comparisons it's stated that Hercules is superior even in the sea. Based on that, Hercules would win in the land and could win in the sea. In a brawl.
Is it safe to assume Thor was also one shotted here? He gave the grunt, Namor flew off, and we dont see Thor again on the scene till a page later and hes trying to pursue Namor.
If you dont wanna count heroes reborn, fine. Although it may be, i dont think powersets are changed any.
Everytime Herc and Namor fight, they brawl. They also bring objects into the fray and Herc never shows to have the advantage nor is able to get a ko. 2 times theyve fought in the water, Namor had the advantage. Once when he was immortal and once when he was mortal if im not mistaken.
There was a time while in water, the Avengers were trapped by some goo, and Herc was able to plow through while Namor was not able to, but that wasnt a direct confrontation, so it doesnt prove much besides Herc having more leg power.
