Originally posted by Captain REX
I thought that The Golden Compass was a very good film. The fact that it is facing prejudice for the author's atheistic views is ridiculous.
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
I don't think the target audience is really even old enough to understand and grasp that, though.
The target audience is hardly any older than the protagonists of the stories, age: 12
How much of the symbolism they understand is of course up for debate, but kids aren't stupid. When the nun tells the girl "Christianity was a nice idea, but it was a mistake." or something to that effect, it's pretty obvious and the kids would understand that.
Originally posted by MenetnashtéAgreed.
This movie is advertised like a kids film and so were the books and it's about killing God. I can't see anything that is not wrong with that. 😬
That was the whole point of my first post.
It wouldn't be such a big deal if the books dealt with only "the Magisterium" as a corrupt, religious group that controls and made illusions to it being like the Catholic church.
That would be one thing, attacking an organization, a type of church.
But the second book has the boy and girl reverse the fall of man by eating fruit together in the garden, and then having a make out session, and the third book has them killing God and everybody happy.
THAT is a flat-out attack on the religion as a whole, a religion that millions live by. (and that attack is marketed directly to children)
A movie that made allegories to the fakeness of Muhammad or Buddha, and had it's main characters making light of and desecrating it's founding principles and situations would be attacked in a heartbeat, especially if it ended with a little boy and girl killing Buddha.
Even more so if it was being marketed to kids. In fact, they'd probably label it as "propaganda".... and isn't it exactly what these books/films are?
Athiest propaganda marketed to kids, wrapped in a fairy tale setting?
Only my opinion of course.
But my little joke was that this film, based on this book series with it's stated intention and purpose was an utter failure.
No more from me, I'm done in this thread, and it should just fall away, like the film did. 😛
The reviews I've read have been ridiculously mixed. Some giving it two stars, some giving it five. A lot of the reviews seem to think it was an utter disappointment though, and argue that it was lumped together and had extremely poor acting from Dakota What's-her-face.
Though the book really wasn't that good, definitely overrated. Well, Pullman as a whole is overrated.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
The target audience is hardly any older than the protagonists of the stories, age: 12How much of the symbolism they understand is of course up for debate, but kids aren't stupid. When the nun tells the girl "Christianity was a nice idea, but it was a mistake." or something to that effect, it's pretty obvious and the kids would understand that.
Agreed.
That was the whole point of my first post.
It wouldn't be such a big deal if the books dealt with only "the Magisterium" as a corrupt, religious group that controls and made illusions to it being like the Catholic church.
That would be one thing, attacking an organization, a type of church.
But the second book has the boy and girl reverse the fall of man by eating fruit together in the garden, and then having a make out session, and the third book has them killing God and everybody happy.
THAT is a flat-out attack on the religion as a whole, a religion that millions live by. (and that attack is marketed directly to children)
A movie that made allegories to the fakeness of Muhammad or Buddha, and had it's main characters making light of and desecrating it's founding principles and situations would be attacked in a heartbeat, especially if it ended with a little boy and girl killing Buddha.
Even more so if it was being marketed to kids. In fact, they'd probably label it as "propaganda".... and isn't it exactly what these books/films are?
Athiest propaganda marketed to kids, wrapped in a fairy tale setting?
Only my opinion of course.
But my little joke was that this film, based on this book series with it's stated intention and purpose was an utter failure.
No more from me, I'm done in this thread, and it should just fall away, like the film did. 😛
So, you've seen the movie and you read all the books? 😕
Originally posted by Menetnashté
This movie is advertised like a kids film and so were the books and it's about killing God. I can't see anything that is not wrong with that. 😬
I don't know about the books being promoted to children, but the movie was steered away from the religious angle. Rather than the Catholic church being represented as evil, it was changed to 'oppressive governments.'
Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Really? I didn't know it had been changed.So Pullman's a sell out as well, he's compromised his message for a movie full of lovely special effects.
Originally posted by Captain REX
I don't know about the books being promoted to children, but the movie was steered away from the religious angle. Rather than the Catholic church being represented as evil, it was changed to 'oppressive governments.'
Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Really? I didn't know it had been changed.So Pullman's a sell out as well, he's compromised his message for a movie full of lovely special effects.
Yeah, even though the religious chest-pounding idiots are upset over it, the movie had nothing to do with religion or God.
Well, they offered him a nice sum, I'm sure. THe movie sucked though, it was nothing more than bubblegum kiddie film garbage... it's sad though, as I heard the books are decent.
Originally posted by Menetnashté
It's not really ashame that the plot changed was the point I was getting at.
The book's plot is what made the books good (so I hear); it's what separates these books from the other cookie-cutter style young(er) reader books.
Like Chill said, they traded the good aspects for jusy more CGI dazzle; we alrady have enough of that shit in movies.