Originally posted by Warmonger
For the record I think Slade beats Wolverine more often than not, for the smae reason that Long Pig said. Faster, stronger better weapons, and can think Circles around Wolverine. In fact the only thing that really keeps Logan in this fight to me is his sheer durability. I just think its a bit mroe even.I see Slade eventually doing what his clone Deadpool did, simply sldie his sword between Logan's ribs and simply sweep out, the oly thing is that Slade is ogin to stay to finish the job (deadpool might have too but he was chasing Kane). I think he simply sticks the buisness end of the staff in Logan's mouth and slags his head. (helll be on the floor holding his guts like when Deadpool did it thats why he isn't fighting back). His skull will be intact but his brain and face will be gone.
Also Slade revived from beign incinerated in his third annual so I don't think Wolverine cna kill him permanently. Also it was durin the Birds of Prey appeareance that Slade easily tosses an 800 pound gorilla, and not some pansy judo toss but a full gorilla press.
Wolverine didn't have he healing factor when Deadpool ran him through with his swords, if he had he wouldn't have even been slowen down.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine didn't have he healing factor when Deadpool ran him through with his swords, if he had he wouldn't have even been slowen down.
The issue number is Wolverine 88
Deadpool didn't just run him through he basically knew that Wolverine would lunge at him, he ducks and as Logna passes over headhe jams his sowrds into Logan's back between the ribs and swept outward. He pretty much spalshes his organs acrsoss the floor as he disembowels him.
Wolveirn did have hsi healing factor becasue a few pages later Wolverine gets up and says "If I had taken a cut like that only a month ago I would have been worm munchies for sure, good thing my ol mutant healing factor is begining to kick in again after it went overload after Magneto ripped out my adamantium" so not only was it working but it was bone claw whose healing factor was through the roof.
Deadpool is the man but if he could do it, Slade who I think is smarter and faster can defeinetly figure it out and execute it as well no?
Originally posted by Warmonger
The issue number is Wolverine 88Deadpool didn't just run him through he basically knew that Wolverine would lunge at him, he ducks and as Logna passes over headhe jams his sowrds into Logan's back between the ribs and swept outward. He pretty much spalshes his organs acrsoss the floor as he disembowels him.
Wolveirn did have hsi healing factor becasue a few pages later Wolverine gets up and says "If I had taken a cut like that only a month ago I would have been worm munchies for sure, good thing my ol mutant healing factor is begining to kick in again after it went overload after Magneto ripped out my adamantium" so not only was it working but it was bone claw whose healing factor was through the roof.
Deadpool is the man but if he could do it, Slade who I think is smarter and faster can defeinetly figure it out and execute it as well no?
That is the issue that Wolverine's healing factor starts up again. At the start of the fight Wolverine's healing factor was on the frizt and begins to start up again after he is stabbed which is why Deadpool is surprised when Wolverine shows up at the end and runs away. Even with out his healing factor Wolverine worked Wade over for close to two pages with out getting hit (well... he was kicked once) and this is a guy with Spider-man level speed and agility not to mention an A list martial artist (unlike Slade). Deadpool some how manages to take a kick to the face (which clearly knocks him off his feet) yet regains his balance and stabs a still mid-air Wolverine with out even looking
There is nothing to really indicate that Logan's healing facor isn't working in the fight. There is osme implication that it has been on the fritz lately but as Wolverine said when he got back up he was fine.
Also Deadpool doens't have spiderman like agility he is extremely agile morelike daredevil and such but definetly not spiderman and Wolverine only tags Wade once and it was just barely on the arm the rest either hit Wade's swords or tore off some of his clothing.
And Deadpool ran off at the end becasue he had to fight Vanessa, Kane and Wolveirne all at the same time.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
wolverine took out aura and north star at the same time in a alpha flight comic and in a avegers comic he took out quick silver.
But which issue of alpha flight did he beat aurora and northstar?And wich issue of avengers did wolvie beat quick silver?
By the way,Wolverine wins.
Originally posted by Warmonger
There is nothing to really indicate that Logan's healing facor isn't working in the fight. There is osme implication that it has been on the fritz lately but as Wolverine said when he got back up he was fine.Also Deadpool doens't have spiderman like agility he is extremely agile morelike daredevil and such but definetly not spiderman and Wolverine only tags Wade once and it was just barely on the arm the rest either hit Wade's swords or tore off some of his clothing.
And Deadpool ran off at the end becasue he had to fight Vanessa, Kane and Wolveirne all at the same time.
Wolverine's healing factor was still shorted out from losing his adamantium. Logan hits Wade three times. He slices up his arm causing him to drop his gun, he scores that goes across his chest and down his side and he kicks him in the face. DP says something along the lines of "a have a healing factor that works... unlike some people" and stabs Wolverine finishing the fight. Wolverine is crawling around on the ground and his narration says "good job my mutant healing factor is starting to kick in again after Magneto ripped out my adamantium." Wolverine shows up at the theater to confront Deadpool and says "quess what my healing factor is working fine" Long story short his healing factor wasn't working when he fought Deadpool.
And Deadpool has Spider-man level speed and agility, he once went back in time an replaced Spider-man pulling of all the same agility feats and its the reason they knew he killed the guy on Providence, as there were only a hand full of people with Spider-man level agility and he was the only one on Providence.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine's healing factor was still shorted out from losing his adamantium. Logan hits Wade three times. He slices up his arm causing him to drop his gun, he scores that goes across his chest and down his side and he kicks him in the face. DP says something along the lines of "a have a healing factor that works... unlike some people" and stabs Wolverine finishing the fight. Wolverine is crawling around on the ground and his narration says "good job my mutant healing factor is starting to kick in again after Magneto ripped out my adamantium." Wolverine shows up at the theater to confront Deadpool and says "quess what my healing factor is working fine" Long story short his healing factor wasn't working when he fought Deadpool.And Deadpool has Spider-man level speed and agility, he once went back in time an replaced Spider-man pulling of all the same agility feats and its the reason they knew he killed the guy on Providence, as there were only a hand full of people with Spider-man level agility and he was the only one on Providence.
His healing factor was going on and off before the fight sarted but there is no dinidcation that his healing factor wasn't working in this fight. Just because Deadpool said it doesn't make it true he doesn't really know he is just trying to get under Logna's skin. Dadepool impales him and his healing factor brings him back to life that means it is working. The fact that it put him down for a few minutes doesn't mean it wasn't working, the healing factor can be overloaded by receving too much damage as Magneto already proved.
Wolverine hit him once the one where he gets him in the arm. The next panelIt looks like slade tries to hit him with the pommels of his sowrd if you look at the air swish they drew you will see that it is Wade not Wolverine that attacked and Logan blocked his attack with his claws.
Next panel Wolverine takes slice at Deadpool who dodges but Wolverine catches som of hs costume. no blood spray no hit. Where as in the next panel Wade kicks him in the face and there is definetly a spray of blood coming from Wolvernie's mouth.
Wade then whips his swords out Wolverine jumps at him and it honestly looks like he missed to me but even if he hit him Wade says "I am renderd speechelss by the sheer ease in which i suckered you inot setting yoursefl up for this attack" At which point Deadpool impales him. So even if that is a hit it is one Wade let him get so that he could slice him up.
Deadpool doesn not have Spiderman-like agility, or at least he certainly didn't have it in that fight with Wolverine. You are going to have to tell me the comic you read that in, not that I think your lying just that fooling some people doesn't mean he has spiderman's agility. Also I have the Cable/Deadpool issue where he does that little hop and jump. Just because no one else on that island could have made that move doesn' mean he is Spiderman. Cable, Shatterstar, Beast Daredevil etc could have made that jump.
Been looking through this thread. Gotta say a few things. Spidey never ever said Wolvie was faster than him. Spidey is faster than Slade and has faster reflexes. Spidey could likely run faster on his hands than Slade can on his feet. Slade stabbing Flash is PIS(the explosions & Slade putting the sword out should've all been in slo-mo to the Flash). So is Wolvie hitting QS or Speed Demon unless they're tired. The last time I saw Wolvie fight Mr. X, Wolvie went into a berserker rage. X was then unable to use telepathy to predict Wolvie's moves because even he doesn't know what he's going to do next. Slade will not be able to anticipate a berserk Wolvie's moves. Only someone with true precog could. Slade is going to survive this fight because of immortality. Wolverine is far more skilled in the Martial Arts than Slade. Slade counters that though by being faster than Wolverine. Slade's costume has been torn before by regular s**t if I remember right(Post pics if you got them.) If so, it will offer him no protection against adamantium claws. WW is faster than Spidey, but Spidey's reaction time is still faster. Slade can't beat WW. Slade didn't beat the JL when he stabbed Flash. They still jumped him in the end. Slade did well because of PIS. Somebody asked if Wolvie could beat those members. He'd beat them the same way Slade was. With PIS. These two both have some PIS showings. Many characters do. Slade's eyesight is better than Wolvie's. He saw the Atom while he was shrunken and hiding. I doubt his other senses are on par w/Wolvies though. I think Slade'd win this fight though. If those grenades of his can KO Superboy and WGirl, they'd likely do the same to Wolvie unless WG and lil' Supes are way more vulnerable than I thought they were. Slade's not stupid and he's got more range then Wolvie . Range kills. And if Slade's creator thinks he can keep up w/Flash even for 2 steps he's crazy and doesn't know the flash well.
Originally posted by brainchild81
Been looking through this thread. Gotta say a few things. Spidey never ever said Wolvie was faster than him. Spidey is faster than Slade and has faster reflexes. Spidey could likely run faster on his hands than Slade can on his feet. Slade stabbing Flash is PIS(the explosions & Slade putting the sword out should've all been in slo-mo to the Flash). So is Wolvie hitting QS or Speed Demon unless they're tired. The last time I saw Wolvie fight Mr. X, Wolvie went into a berserker rage. X was then unable to use telepathy to predict Wolvie's moves because even he doesn't know what he's going to do next. Slade will not be able to anticipate a berserk Wolvie's moves. Only someone with true precog could. Slade is going to survive this fight because of immortality. Wolverine is far more skilled in the Martial Arts than Slade. Slade counters that though by being faster than Wolverine. Slade's costume has been torn before by regular s**t if I remember right(Post pics if you got them.) If so, it will offer him no protection against adamantium claws. WW is faster than Spidey, but Spidey's reaction time is still faster. Slade can't beat WW. Slade didn't beat the JL when he stabbed Flash. They still jumped him in the end. Slade did well because of PIS. Somebody asked if Wolvie could beat those members. He'd beat them the same way Slade was. With PIS. These two both have some PIS showings. Many characters do. Slade's eyesight is better than Wolvie's. He saw the Atom while he was shrunken and hiding. I doubt his other senses are on par w/Wolvies though. I think Slade'd win this fight though. If those grenades of his can KO Superboy and WGirl, they'd likely do the same to Wolvie unless WG and lil' Supes are way more vulnerable than I thought they were. Slade's not stupid and he's got more range then Wolvie . Range kills. And if Slade's creator thinks he can keep up w/Flash even for 2 steps he's crazy and doesn't know the flash well.
Marv Wolveman created the titans and Deathstroke so don't say he deosn't know what he is talking about. You have absolutley no proof that Spidey is faster than Slade as many of the feats of speed and some of the agility Spidey performs with ease Slade has performed as Well. (Outsiders can't remember the issue but very recent) Slade while sittign down had gusn drawn on him as soon as the start to squeeze the triggers Slade jumps up jumps out of the Limo and decapitates all three of them in one swing.
Slade Stabbing Flash is not PIS. If you read any flash comics you might have seen acharacter called double down. He tuns his skin into magical playing cards that are shapr as razors. He throws so many at the flash that wally has to slow down to dodge them all, because he is throwing thme in a wide area, this catully causees Wally to become easier to hit because he as to slow down. That si the same thing that happened with Slade. Wally can't get up to full speed within that small 20 foot space in the first space so don't act like he was moving at lightspeed. The explosions made him even slower as he slowed down to dodge them. Since there were many he kept slowing down probably about to kid flash level and Deathstroke has since day one been fast enough to hit him. Batman has hit him, even aquaman was showing someone how to hit a person moving at super speed.
I brought up Mr. X not to talk about precog but to point out that Wolverine can be knocked out by a well trained person with human strentgh level. The very first encounter with Mr. X he knocked Logan the **** out, the next time they fough it was his bodyguard who knocked Wolvernie out but X did it all on his own the first time.
I agree Slade's pre-cog wasn't developoed enough fo rme to consider that an asset, however Slade isn't a telepath he reads bodies so even if Logna doesn't know what he is about to do Slade will. Once agian you can't prove that Spiderman is faster than the WW.
Slades sense are as good as Wolverine as he has excellent hearing and smelling. I actually don't belive his eyesight is as good as they showed it in Identity Crisis, that is one of the things I would call PIS.
actauly spidermans reaction time and reflexes and agility are better then supermans. superman who strength and durability were powered down from some ray fought spiderman and spiderman agility and reflexes proved to be faster then supermans. also the only thing the ray effected was supermans strength and durability.
Originally posted by brainchild81
Been looking through this thread. Gotta say a few things. Spidey never ever said Wolvie was faster than him. Spidey is faster than Slade and has faster reflexes. Spidey could likely run faster on his hands than Slade can on his feet. Slade stabbing Flash is PIS(the explosions & Slade putting the sword out should've all been in slo-mo to the Flash). So is Wolvie hitting QS or Speed Demon unless they're tired. The last time I saw Wolvie fight Mr. X, Wolvie went into a berserker rage. X was then unable to use telepathy to predict Wolvie's moves because even he doesn't know what he's going to do next. Slade will not be able to anticipate a berserk Wolvie's moves. Only someone with true precog could. Slade is going to survive this fight because of immortality. Wolverine is far more skilled in the Martial Arts than Slade. Slade counters that though by being faster than Wolverine. Slade's costume has been torn before by regular s**t if I remember right(Post pics if you got them.) If so, it will offer him no protection against adamantium claws. WW is faster than Spidey, but Spidey's reaction time is still faster. Slade can't beat WW. Slade didn't beat the JL when he stabbed Flash. They still jumped him in the end. Slade did well because of PIS. Somebody asked if Wolvie could beat those members. He'd beat them the same way Slade was. With PIS. These two both have some PIS showings. Many characters do. Slade's eyesight is better than Wolvie's. He saw the Atom while he was shrunken and hiding. I doubt his other senses are on par w/Wolvies though. I think Slade'd win this fight though. If those grenades of his can KO Superboy and WGirl, they'd likely do the same to Wolvie unless WG and lil' Supes are way more vulnerable than I thought they were. Slade's not stupid and he's got more range then Wolvie . Range kills. And if Slade's creator thinks he can keep up w/Flash even for 2 steps he's crazy and doesn't know the flash well.
Excellent post
Originally posted by wolverine8888
actauly spidermans reaction time and reflexes and agility are better then supermans. superman who strength and durability were powered down from some ray fought spiderman and spiderman agility and reflexes proved to be faster then supermans. also the only thing the ray effected was supermans strength and durability.
... I can't believe you just said that