Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It baffels me that people actually think Slade stabbing someone with perception and reaction time that transcend lightspeed is credible. It is feat exponentially worse then Wolverine surviving a nuke...
He didn't run up to Flash and stab him... He had the sword waiting where he knew Flash would run to, so Wally ran into it after dodging some explosives Slade had planted. It wasn't so much showing Slade's speed as showing his A: Great prep work and B: godly reflexes.
I agree, Deathstroke could never just swing at Wally and hope to hit him, but this instance wasn't even like that, as you make it out to be.
You keep forgetting Flash can barely break the sound barrier when he has to dodge objects like people or bombs.
You and I both know that isn't true, the Flash has evacuated an entire city out of the range of a nuclear bomb after the bomb detonated, and it was a major city to boot. He also was using his speed when he was trying to find the person who was control GL before his attack hit Diana... and this was around your average human.
I'm telling ya' the Flash doesn't need to slow down to sonic speed to avoid objects, if he did he would be nothing compared to... oh lets say Zoom. That bullet thing was just some half baked reason the write thought up so the idea of the Flash getting hit at least approached making sense.
He didn't limp away from anything Batman did, he limped away from jumping out a 20 story window and landing on his shoulder.
Well the fall was maybe 15 feet, both he and Batman took the fall together and he didn't start showing his limb until after Batman kicked him threw the large window, which was a bit after the fall. Im sure it's possible a fall of around 15 did that much damage to him... but I doubt it.
Never under concrete footing. He's either on a job or holding back.
Well that is certainly the case with his Batgirl fight. I don't think thats what the writer was going for at the time, he just wanted to make Cass look badass by making Slade look like a chump (I mean he was trying yo hit her... he just couldn't) but DC fixed that, and made it pretty clear DS is superior to Cass. But what about Eddie Fryers and Azrael? They held their own just fine, and even Nightwing (yes I know he gets spanked often my Stroke) as manged to overwelm DS when he has the element of surprise.
Speed, Skill, Intelligence, Strength etc etc.
...right
I've shown you proof after proof after proof, yet you still lie about things.
I showed you the Aquaman fight, you lied before it and you're still lying to people about that fight.
What's your problem?
You showed me the Aquaman/Hal Jordan and DS "fight"? I think I remember you posting some scans from the issue on here... but I had the issue before that.
For those who want to know what happened Hal was acted like a moron and DS him out and blinded Aquaman with a flash grenade then came in for the attack. He kicked Aquaman once, Aquaman (while blind) grabbed his leg and threw him threw the wall of the dilapidated building they were fighting in. DS blasted out a support beam then ran away.
Originally posted by Dizzle
He didn't run up to Flash and stab him... He had the sword waiting where he knew Flash would run to, so Wally ran into it after dodging some explosives Slade had planted. It wasn't so much showing Slade's speed as showing his A: Great prep work and B: godly reflexes.I agree, Deathstroke could never just swing at Wally and hope to hit him, but this instance wasn't even like that, as you make it out to be.
You need to take into consideration just how fast the Flash is, he often operates at speeds many orders of magnitude above c and he does so just as easily as you and I would run. He precieves the world at light speed, thats how fast his mind works and thats how fast he reacts.... light speed! Unless the Flash had his eyes closed he should have had ampel time to avoid the sword even if it was at the very last picosecond. There is also the fact that DS sword was at his side (or sheathed I forget) when the Flash started his attack, so it need to be postioned.
The only way this works is if the Flash never saw the sword at all... but that makes no sense either.
i just figure in comic land it's not such a far fetched idea.....
slade: flash is going to try and dodge, I'll overcompensate, he'll overcompensate for that, so I'll continue to over compensate....repeat, repeat until the blade meets wally...
also ds's sword was everywhere in that fight, he was holding it when it started, then it was suddently behind his back, then he had it out again to nail hawkman, then is was sheathed again before he hit the ground...
Even if he saw it, moving fast creates momentum. If you're running and something suddenly pops in front of you, it probably takes more than half a step to slow down. Flash sees things damn fast, but he also runs damn fast. He runs with about the same precision as a human (but a whole lot faster), meaning that even if he sees something before it hits, he can't necessarily stop himself fast enough to avoid it.
Also, no one goes from standing to full speed instantly. Flash needs some room to build up to lightspeed.
Originally posted by Dizzle
Even if he saw it, moving fast creates momentum. If you're running and something suddenly pops in front of you, it probably takes more than half a step to slow down. Flash sees things damn fast, but he also runs damn fast. He runs with about the same precision as a human (but a whole lot faster), meaning that even if he sees something before it hits, he can't necessarily stop himself fast enough to avoid it.Also, no one goes from standing to full speed instantly. Flash needs some room to build up to lightspeed.
Yet he did managed to stop pretty quickly after being impaled... instead of careening into DS several times faster then the speed of sound
also ds's sword was everywhere in that fight, he was holding it when it started, then it was suddently behind his back, then he had it out again to nail hawkman, then is was sheathed again before he hit the ground...
I think I see where your getting with that...
Its a magic sword!