H/P Doomsday vs. 8th Day Juggernaut

Started by Galan0078 pages

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
True. But Im only going after what Dan the creator says. He says Doomsday can evolve to defeat Any foe. I guess with in reason, anyone who isn't a high tier reality manipulator would Lose. And even then, he gives DS 5/10.
Right, but we can't just assume DD would evolve to the point where he gained something like high-end TP...

Especially when there is no real evidence to suggest DD can evolve that type of power on his own.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um this is H?P doomsday correct? Didn't he pretty much shrug off the punches of a Mother Box amped Superman? I'm pretty sure he isn't going down to Blunt force trauma.
It's true that DD was giving M/B enhanced Superman a beating...

But remember, 8th Day Juggs pwned Thor effortlessly.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um this is H?P doomsday correct? Didn't he pretty much shrug off the punches of a Mother Box amped Superman? I'm pretty sure he isn't going down to Blunt force trauma.

Show me where it was established that Supes strength was amped by the Motherbox.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Show me where it was established that Supes strength was amped by the Motherbox.
After he was enhanced by M/B, Superman made the statement:

"Hopefully I've caught up to DD's next level of evolution."

He may have ONLY been talking about only the weapons he received,

But that's all he really commented on about said enhancements.

id say they stalemate forever, DD would just evolve mid battle and both would remain unharmed. Its hard to speculate whether he would gain a power such as TP, but who knows.

Originally posted by quanchi112
mother box amped superman did nothing impressive at all.

Except survive against a being who had to be defeated with entropy.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Except survive against a being who had to be defeated with entropy.

8th day Juggernaut > Superman w/motherbox.

It took Superman a long time to heal his shoulder injury, which regular Juggernaut could've healed in less than a second. Doomsday has no viable way of beating Juggernaut, at least Juggernaut has a shot at taking out Doomsday.

Originally posted by llagrok
8th day Juggernaut > Superman w/motherbox.

It took Superman a long time to heal his shoulder injury, which regular Juggernaut could've healed in less than a second. Doomsday has no viable way of beating Juggernaut, at least Juggernaut has a shot at taking out Doomsday.

Is 8th day as powerful as the Radiant or a Guardian?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Is 8th day as powerful as the Radiant or a Guardian?

Well, yeah.

Only, 8th day can't be hurt by DD.

Originally posted by llagrok
Well, yeah.

Only, 8th day can't be hurt by DD.

And DD couldn't be hurt by either the radiant or the guardian. That is all I'm saying. It's got to be a stalemate.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And DD couldn't be hurt by either the radiant or the guardian. That is all I'm saying. It's got to be a stalemate.

Did Radiant or the Guardian try blunt force damage, because that seems to be beyond DD's adaptive abilities.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Did Radiant or the Guardian try blunt force damage, because that seems to be beyond DD's adaptive abilities.

NO. That is beyond regular DD's adaptive Abilities. This is H/P DD, who had no problem against the seriously Amped Superman with M?B.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO. That is beyond regular DD's adaptive Abilities. This is H/P DD, who had no problem against the seriously Amped Superman with M?B.

Again SHOW me where he was amped beyond having weapons at his disposal.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO. That is beyond regular DD's adaptive Abilities. This is H/P DD, who had no problem against the seriously Amped Superman with M?B.

Did Radiant employ any form of Magic? Don't think so.

You also seem to be constantly bypassing the fact that Doomsday has no way of injuring or taking out Juggernaut. He only has one death, and I doubt that is enough for him to develop in a way that will make him completely immune to magic and somehow capable of hurting Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Galan007
After he was enhanced by M/B, Superman made the statement:

"Hopefully I've caught up to DD's next level of evolution."

He may have ONLY been talking about only the weapons he received,

But that's all he really commented on about said enhancements.


That's exactly my point. He MAY have been amped or he may not have. IF he was, it MAY have been a massive amping or it MAY not have. There's nowhere near enough evidence to support nvr's statement about Supes being "seriously amped" because Waveriders statement alone is far to ambiguous to support the claim.

Originally posted by darthgoober
That's exactly my point. He MAY have been amped or he may not have. IF he was, it MAY have been a massive amping or it MAY not have. There's nowhere near enough evidence to support nvr's claim of Supes being "seriously amped" because Waveriders statement alone is far to ambiguous to support the claim.

Exactly, we didn't get to see a lot of feats.

The motherbox is supposed to boost up his healing capabilities. It took him ages to regenerate a wounded shoulder. Superman doesn't have a lot of impressive feats with the motherbox.

Originally posted by llagrok
Exactly, we didn't get to see a lot of feats.

The motherbox is supposed to boost up his healing capabilities. It took him ages to regenerate a wounded shoulder. Superman doesn't have a lot of impressive feats with the motherbox.


I actually didn't see a single feat that was all that impressive. The most impressive thing Supes did was use the Motherbox to reprogram Waverider's time travel device.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I actually didn't see a single feat that was all that impressive. The most impressive thing Supes did was use the Motherbox to reprogram Waverider's time travel device.

I guess certain people perceive the world differently

Originally posted by llagrok
I guess certain people perceive the world differently

I admit that some of the devices the Motherbox created were kinda cool, but everything I saw came from those weapons. And all Supes really had was a sword and ultrasonics gun unless I'm mistaken.

I think I would have enjoyed Hunter Prey ALOT more if the O.E. had actually vapourised Doomsday, and he'd ressurected himself from a single cell, in a Wolverine esq fashion ! P.S. do we actually know if Eight Day Juggernaught is actually vunerable to telepathy ? 🙂

Originally posted by llagrok
Exactly, we didn't get to see a lot of feats.

The motherbox is supposed to boost up his healing capabilities. It took him ages to regenerate a wounded shoulder. Superman doesn't have a lot of impressive feats with the motherbox.

IMO he should have been near undefeatable with the Motherbox, and the fight should have been alot more Dramatic. Hunter Prey had ALOT of potential but was incredibly underwhelming. Id love Grant Morisson/Geoff Johns to do an ALLSTAR re-telling which makes the story as epic as it should be. Darksied, Doomsday, Cyborg Superman and Kal El should be a rescipy for Gold, and yet all we goit was an Average Superman tale.