H/P Doomsday vs. 8th Day Juggernaut

Originally posted by Galan007
DD is allowed ONLY 1 death/K.O. 🙂

hmmm then its kinda tricky

can Cytorrak take down a being who laughed off the OE?

Originally posted by masterbruce
no, nothing faulty.

DD's battle against the energy guardian PROVES that he will evolve the capabilities necessary to take out his enemies by evolving offenses suited to their weaknesses.

Had that battle not happened, we might assume DD was limited to evolving only to get stronger and what not. But that battle shows that DD is capable of evolutions that are outside the mere phyiscal changes.

Originally posted by Galan007
If we are to stick with this type of 'reasoning', I could say that since there is NO evidence 8th Day Juggs was vulnerable to TP, those type of attacks wouldn't work anyway.

Now what? 🙂

Originally posted by masterbruce
no he evolves offensive powers as well

in his second battle with superman, to account for superman's mobility and flight, DD was now able to shoot out the bony spurs from his fists

also, the Hunter Prey version (the toughest version imo) was starting to evolve on the fly, as opposed to after death

I just read about the superman thing and he also used fire breath on Martian Manhunter it apears.

Puts an interesting spin on things indeed.

Originally posted by Galan007
DD is allowed ONLY 1 death/K.O. 🙂

also, the HP DD was evolving on the fly, so he doesnt need death to get stronger anymore

Originally posted by masterbruce
hmmm then its kinda tricky

can Cytorrak take down a being who laughed off the OE?

Not the Omega Effect. 🙂

Originally posted by Hercules
I just read about the superman thing and he also used fire breath on Martian Manhunter it apears.

Puts an interesting spin on things indeed.

Originally posted by Galan007
That was DD Rex.... Not the same. 🙂

Too many Damn Doomsdays! durfist

Originally posted by Galan007
Cool, then it goes back to this:

Now what? 🙂

it doesnt matter if 8th day isnt vulnerable to TP, because surely he has some other weakness or limit. DD will find that limit through the course of battle and exploit it.

Originally posted by masterbruce
also, the HP DD was evolving on the fly, so he doesnt need death to get stronger anymore

I'm talking about his ability to be momentarily killed/K.O'd through sheer physical force in the past. [A panel FACT].

Physical force is something Juggy has an abundence of. 🙂

Originally posted by Hercules
Too many Damn Doomsdays! durfist

Originally posted by Hercules
Too many Damn Doomsdays! durfist

to me, HP DD was the last time we saw the real DD. I think the writers got scared of how dangerous DD was so they basically removed his fangs in all later iterations.

Originally posted by masterbruce
it doesnt matter if 8th day isnt vulnerable to TP, because surely he has some other weakness or limit. DD will find that limit through the course of battle and exploit it.

Since Juggy never showed ANY type of vulnerabilities, he has none.

Now what? 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm not talking about his evolution.

I'm talking about his ability to be momentarily killed/K.O'd through sheer physical force in the past. [A panel FACT].

Physical force is something Juggy has an abundence of. 🙂

what evidence do you have that DD could even be killed by physical force again?

Originally posted by masterbruce
what evidence do you have that DD could even be killed by physical force again?

Originally posted by Galan007
By your line of reasoning,

Juggy never showed ANY type of vulnerabilities, therefore, he has none. 🙂

no, Juggy never showed any type of vulnerabilities against the weak foes he faced. Just because the XMen cant do squat to him doesnt mean he has no vulnerbilities.

Even Onslaught was able to humiliate Juggs.

And we know Cytorrak HAS vulnerabilities because there are beings more powerful than him.

Originally posted by Galan007
What evidence do you have that he can't. (See what I did there?) 😄

my evidence that he can't is that DD's unique power is to evolve so that the same method can't kill him again.

checkmate.

Originally posted by masterbruce
no, Juggy never showed any type of vulnerabilities against the weak foes he faced. Just because the XMen cant do squat to him doesnt mean he has no vulnerbilities.

Because by this post, it sounds like you don't. 😬

8th Day Juggy pretty much one shotted Thor, and picked apart the Exemplars with ease.

And if Thor's word is to be taken literally, then 8th Day Juggernaut's power "doth swelled a hundred fold", since their previous encounter.

"weak foes he faced" lol.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Even Onslaught was able to humiliate Juggs.

Therefore quite irrevelent in this debate. 🙂

Originally posted by masterbruce
And we know Cytorrak HAS vulnerabilities because there are beings more powerful than him.

I never saw anything suggesting this.

Originally posted by masterbruce
my evidence that he can't is that DD's unique power is to evolve so that the same method can't kill him again.

checkmate.

"checkmate" lol

Originally posted by Galan007
Good thing Juggs would only need to kill or K.O him once, ey?

"checkmate" lol

I'd say a guardian is more than one times more powerful than classic juggs. and So is DS. by that reasoning, H/P doomsday still has the better feats.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'd say a guardian is more than one times more powerful than classic juggs. and So is DS. by that reasoning, H/P doomsday still has the better feats.

The one from the DD annual?