The Mighty Galactus Vs Yuga Khan

Originally posted by h1a8
Forgive me for this but you used some very terrible logic here. Superman can beat up a third grader because we all know relevant upper bounds for a third grader (non bullet proof, less than 20mph, less than 500lbs strength, etc.) and superman has shown on panel to exceed those upperbounds. Galactus hasn't shown to have the power to destroy a universe (only through hyperbole). So how is it beyond ridiculous to say he can't. Because the watcher says so and it is beyond ridiculous to believe him?

And if the UN is only a [B]fraction of the full power of Galactus then why is it the only known object in the universe capable of inspiring fear in him.
Totally illogical.

Lastly the UN is not part of Galactus' power. Yes it is an aspect of him but still a seperate entity. But whether he uses it as a weapon against Khan is up to the OP. I think his intentions were plain Galactus vs. Yugah Khan. [/B]

Well, the same can be said for your argument. Space Mummy drew comparisons between motivation/rationalization of the characters:we've never seen superman destroy a third grader because it's not in his nature. Can he? Yes. But by your argument, you take out superman from the equation. ANYONE can beat up a third grader so long as they exceed the "upper-bounds" of a third-grader...you've removed superman entirely from the analysis. The question should be instead: Heroic Superman is shown to beat up a third grader willingly and with purpose, under his own untampered will. How do you explain this in the context of the story? You've now proven on panel with feats showing superman hospitalizing this child to the point of near-death. How do you explain this in the story? Do you think we'll ever see this situation in a superman comic?

Galactus has never been shown to destroy the universe willingly (he has destroyed a universe once, but that was under extremely diresituations. This should give an inkling of how severe the situation must be for Galactus to resort to destroying the universe) because it's not in his nature. The same applies here.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Excuse me? Galactus is NOT a high lvl abstract. He's important to the universe and even the multiverse, but he's not an abstract, and he's not high lvl. He's not even universal in power. Come again?

Thanos knocking Galactus on his ass.

That's retarded, because he is an abstract and doesn't have an ass.

Originally posted by Tenebrous
Well, the same can be said for your argument. Space Mummy drew comparisons between motivation/rationalization of the characters:we've never seen superman destroy a third grader because it's not in his nature. Can he? Yes. But by your argument, you take out superman from the equation. ANYONE can beat up a third grader so long as they exceed the "upper-bounds" of a third-grader...you've removed superman entirely from the analysis. The question should be instead: Heroic Superman is shown to beat up a third grader willingly and with purpose, under his own untampered will. How do you explain this in the context of the story? You've now proven on panel with feats showing superman hospitalizing this child to the point of near-death. How do you explain this in the story? Do you think we'll ever see this situation in a superman comic?

Galactus has never been shown to destroy the universe willingly (he has destroyed a universe once, but that was under extremely diresituations. This should give an inkling of how severe the situation must be for Galactus to resort to destroying the universe) because it's not in his nature. The same applies here.

When has Galactus destroyed a universe once under his own power?
Scans please and issue # please.
To prove one has the power to do something requires proofs on what they have done. It is illogical to say that since something is not in a character's personality then they certainly have the power to do it, they just won't. For they probably can't do it even if it was in the personality of that character. For example, Superman doesn't want to destroy the universe. That doesn't mean he can just because he doesn't want to.

Now probably Galactus can destroy a universe under his own power. But we don't know this and thus 'Galactus is able to destroy a universe' can't be used as a premise to show that he can win against a character. That is all I'm saying.

Originally posted by h1a8
When has Galactus destroyed a universe once under his own power?
Scans please and issue # please.
To prove one has the power to do something requires proofs on what they have done. It is illogical to say that since something is not in a character's personality then they certainly have the power to do it, they just won't. For they probably can't do it even if it was in the personality of that character. For example, Superman doesn't want to destroy the universe. That doesn't mean he can just because he doesn't want to.

Now probably Galactus can destroy a universe under his own power. But we don't know this and thus 'Galactus is able to destroy a universe' can't be used as a premise to show that he can win against a character. That is all I'm saying.

The most we have with that is watcher giving testimony that Galactus has the capability. Given that watchers, by their nature, are keen observers with keen logical who are factual by nature, that is the only direct proxy we have. The difference here between that and your Superman example concerning the universe is that Superman has never been given acknowledgement of having the power to destroy the universe. It also is a not a scope within which superman functions (Galactus functions within a universal scope, at times a multiversal scope vs. superman operating on planetary scope, at times a solar-system scope)

That being said, this is the only time that Galactus resorts to wiping out a universe.

(from galactus respect thread)

Finally,

in order to stop himself from absorbing the UNIVERSE and EVERYTHING BEYOND

Galactus ERASES that UNIVERSE from existence

"And without a sound, the UNIVERSE behind them softly and suddenly VANISHES AWAY"

Credit to Mr M for the scans.

I don't remember if Galactus used the UN or not for this. I'll have to check and confirm. from the black celestial story-arc, FF 337-341

It's funny that people are arguing wether galactus can destro a universe or not when:

-The Ultimate nullifier can, and that's his creation
-Has been stated by the watcher
-He functions at a universal level
-Has been stated to be on eternity's level
-That scan
-Has the previous eternity's power

Galactus destroy's Yuga and the New Gods

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
It's funny that people are arguing wether galactus can destro a universe or not when:

-The Ultimate nullifier can, and that's his creation
-Has been stated by the watcher
-He functions at a universal level
-Has been stated to be on eternity's level
-That scan
-Has the previous eternity's power

Galactus destroy's Yuga and the New Gods

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
It's funny that people are arguing wether galactus can destro a universe or not when:

-The Ultimate nullifier can, and that's his creation
-Has been stated by the watcher
-He functions at a universal level
-Has been stated to be on eternity's level
-That scan
-Has the previous eternity's power

Galactus destroy's Yuga and the New Gods

It's funny that you are arguing against Yugah Khan when Yugah can tap the source better than anyone in the history of comics other than the Spectre. Source>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>UN

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It's funny that you are arguing against Yugah Khan when Yugah can tap the source better than anyone in the history of comics other than the Spectre. Source>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>UN

dont compare yuga to galactus. galactus trumps him in power.

bump

G-Spot

Originally posted by TrollDog
G-Spot

Galactus still wins this with ease.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It's funny that you are arguing against Yugah Khan when Yugah can tap the source better than anyone in the history of comics other than the Spectre. Source>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>UN

A source that's "better"?

It might be unlimited, but that won't make a difference.

Big G

Originally posted by guy222
Big G

You voted already in this thread Guy!

Galactus easily, Yuga is at BEST an extremely low level Abstract.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Galactus easily, Yuga is at BEST an extremely low level Abstract.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Galactus easily, Yuga is at BEST an extremely low level Abstract.

Originally posted by Tenebrous
The most we have with that is watcher giving testimony that Galactus has the capability. Given that watchers, by their nature, are keen observers with keen logical who are factual by nature, that is the only direct proxy we have. The difference here between that and your Superman example concerning the universe is that Superman has never been given acknowledgement of having the power to destroy the universe. It also is a not a scope within which superman functions (Galactus functions within a universal scope, at times a multiversal scope vs. superman operating on planetary scope, at times a solar-system scope)

That being said, this is the only time that Galactus resorts to wiping out a universe.

(from galactus respect thread)

I don't remember if Galactus used the UN or not for this. I'll have to check and confirm. from the black celestial story-arc, FF 337-341

It was under his own powers, not UN.

When Khan broke free of his planet prison the Universe trembled. He destroyed entire civilizations to power up, and he did it within seconds of each other, unlike Galactus who has to go looking.

Also, the New Gods are stated to be more powerful than the old gods including Thor, Odin, Zeus and so on. Khan was more powerful than all of the New Gods put together.

Galactus has never been shown to be able to destroy primal energy, without that he cannot even hurt Khan.

A full blast from Galactus wasn't shown to hurt Darkseid,I (it merely burned the clothes he wears) Darkseid couldn't hurt galactus.

You have to remember that the writers specifically stated that Khan had to be a short lived character because he was an unstoppable force that could only be defeated by his ambitions.

Rip Khan from the God Wall and let him suck up some planets and he'll be a match for Galactus.

I call it a tie with neither one being able to seriously injure the other.