yoda vs nihilus

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Originally posted by Lightsnake
I don't believe Nihilus has eyes, actually- there are numerous references to him only 'seeing' through the Force as a Miraluka, as well as the close up given in 'Unseen, Unheard' when we just see black and empty holes, same as Visas's that he'd carved out. You're correct in that, Blasmaster, except that's the only way Nihilus can see.

Are you referring to that pic Nikkolas posted? Because if you look very closely on his right eye, you can see a round thing on it that looks like his eye. Like what Captain REX said earlier.

Originally posted by Manslayer
Well nihilus cant sense some one who removed themselves from the force right? Its been proven yoda has the technique now by lightsnake.

Yes Nihilus most likely wouldnt be able to sense him. And yes Lightsnake did provide evidence that Yoda might know of it(To be honest I havent read the Black Crisis Trilogy... yet).

A question. By rendering someone invisible, does that also include the Force that is present inside/outside a person's body?

Looping out of the force means the other force user is unable to sense you..

I meant sight. Does the Fallanasi technique renders a person's Force Energy, present in his/her body, invisible from someone's sight as well? Because Nihilus doesnt need to see the person's physical body to 'see' him/her. Like the Miralukas, he can also clearly see the Force inside a person's body.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
The Fallanassi technique, as I believe isn't so much a direct counter, but hiding oneself in the Force renders one totally invisible to Nihilus....the same as it'd be to a Miraluka, since it's clear Nihilus has no eyes and 'sees' his prey in the Force
Actually Nihilus does have eyes. Concept art of him shows that. Dammit, can't find a good pic that shows them. Oh well. In saber combat Yoda is the definate superior, this can't be argued, tho Nihilus is no slouch, when Exile and friends found him, he was already weakened from being starved, yet was still able to bring Exile to his knees with a mere gesture, he could have just lobbed off his head, but instead tried to Force Kill(teehee, glad I got everyone using that as opposed to Force Drain) Exile, which backfired and weakened Nihilus again because Exile was a Wound in the Force. He then took out his LS, had a saber duel with all three of them(cept Canderous who either had a blaster or vibroblade), and according to Visas HE WAS WINNING. They then fought some more(Visas may of also stopped Nihilus' flow of power to stun him because they had a bond) and he eventually fell.

If he can see Yoda yet he already looped out of the force does that mean he would weaken himself too as Yoda was wound??? Because Nihilus seems to be the type of guy to use the force first (mainly force killer tech.) than his lightsaber if absolutely necessary or in a in a life or death situation only. That just my opinion of what i have seen from him.

Originally posted by Darth Hord
If he can see Yoda yet he already looped out of the force does that mean he would weaken himself too as Yoda was wound??? Because Nihilus seems to be the type of guy to use the force first (mainly force killer tech.) than his lightsaber if absolutely necessary or in a in a life or death situation only. That just my opinion of what i have seen from him.
Good question, tho it can also be argued he only rushed to Force Kill because he was suffering from his agonizing hunger.

Originally posted by -Blasmaster-
I meant sight. Does the Fallanasi technique renders a person's Force Energy, present in his/her body, invisible from someone's sight as well? Because Nihilus doesnt need to see the person's physical body to 'see' him/her. Like the Miralukas, he can also clearly see the Force inside a person's body.

It totally hides on from the Force...I mean, completely...Luke was powerful enough to shield a planet.

And Nihilus seems to have eye sockets...but no actual eyes

They are just shadowed over, he is possibly the most corrupted Sith ever, he is probably deformed in some way. Also, he probably has eyes, as when Nihilus made Visas see the Galaxy for how ugly it is, how would he know it was ugly if he only saw thru the Force?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Also, he probably has eyes, as when Nihilus made Visas see the Galaxy for how ugly it is, how would he know it was ugly if he only saw thru the Force?

You got to remember though that Nihiulus thinks the purpose of life is for life to die aka by feeding his hunger. His views/philosophy is completely different than other sith lord. Kreia said that he would turn against the sith once all the jedi were dead. And he is not doing it for his personal power gain (like becoming the DLOTS)

Originally posted by Darth Hord
You got to remember though that Nihiulus thinks the purpose of life is for life to die aka by feeding his hunger. His views/philosophy is completely different than other sith lord. Kreia said that he would turn against the sith once all the jedi were dead. And he is not doing it for his personal power gain (like becoming the DLOTS)
True. Really tho, it's all speculation.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
True. Really tho, it's all speculation.

It might be, but kreia is a VERY credible source when it comes to nihilus since she trained him and given on what we know of him it does sound like something he will do.

Originally posted by Darth Hord
It might be, but kreia is a VERY credible source when it comes to nihilus since she trained him and given on what we know of him it does sound like something he will do.
No, I know that's what he'll do, I was referring to the "whether or not Nihilus has eyes" debate.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
It totally hides on from the Force...I mean, completely...Luke was powerful enough to shield a planet.

And Nihilus seems to have eye sockets...but no actual eyes

I'll eventually gonna get around to reading something about the Fallanasi Technique, it still seem a bit ambiguous for me. But Im not gonna continue asking you or anyone about it. I'll just have to know it for myself, so.... until then.

As for Nihilus' eyes, I still think he has eyes. I honestly see his eyeballs in there. I guess its just not shown clearly in that particular pic.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
No, I know that's what he'll do, I was referring to the "whether or not Nihilus has eyes" debate.

Oh but that wasnt really my point. I was just stating that making visas see as he did makes the only logical explanation for that is by through the force since she was blind/no eyes.

Originally posted by Darth Hord
Oh but that wasnt really my point. I was just stating that making visas see as he did and the only logical explanation for that is by through the force.
He used the Force to make her see of course, that doesn't mean he sees thru the Force. Really, I'm starting to think he sees things differently than most now, he has eyes, but he seems to see and operate on a Cosmic scale, as said, he sees stars and planets, not people.

Kreia: There is no future in the empty galaxy he sees.

Tobin: It is because he sees planets, stars...not people

They place a lot of emphasis on how Nihilus perceives and understands things. The only thing that he seems to see is life to devour.

gollum brother yoda win this one, he knows the technik that hides you from the force and he is better than nihilus with a lightsabre, if nihilus cannot drain yoda he has only one option is to engage in a duel with yoda who is a better duelist than him. yoda wins.