X-Men: Utopia

Started by Alpha Centauri93 pages

Let's get this straight...

There is a current "Messiah" storyline in the X-Men world, it involves a red-haired female and she is connected to Cable/Cyclops. She's saying she wants to return to the mainstream timeline, on top of all that.

Nothing has been explicitly stated, but do you see where I'm going?

By the way, what issue did Jean "die" in ? I don't read X-Men books.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Let's get this straight...

There is a current "Messiah" storyline in the X-Men world, it involves a red-haired female and she is connected to Cable/Cyclops. She's saying she wants to return to the mainstream timeline, on top of all that.

Nothing has been explicitly stated, but do you see where I'm going?

By the way, what issue did Jean "die" in ? I don't read X-Men books.

-AC

I think a couple of characters have made oblique hints in that regard... pointing out the red-hair and green eyes.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Let's get this straight...

There is a current "Messiah" storyline in the X-Men world, it involves a red-haired female and she is connected to Cable/Cyclops. She's saying she wants to return to the mainstream timeline, on top of all that.


Thats not jean, thats the first born mutant sicne house of M.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

Nothing has been explicitly stated, but do you see where I'm going?

By the way, what issue did Jean "die" in ? I don't read X-Men books.

-AC


Were you are going would be in a very wrong direction, though you don't read X-men books so I am not surprised you confuse hope with jean. That is Hope all grown up.

Magneto killed her in new x-men I believe around early 2000. She did die......I mean were do you think she been the last few years on vaca in europe like all of spidermans villains?

Originally posted by tjcoady
I think a couple of characters have made oblique hints in that regard... pointing out the red-hair and green eyes.

It hope not Jean.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
It hope not Jean.

I wouldn't really care one way or the other, except that it would be super creepy to have Scott's girlfriend being raised by his son.

Not actually blood-incestuous, but just weird as hell.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Thats not jean, thats the first born mutant sicne house of M.

First, nobody really knows WHO Hope is, deep down.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Were you are going would be in a very wrong direction, though you don't read X-men books so I am not surprised you confuse hope with jean. That is Hope all grown up.

I didn't confuse Hope with Jean, but you're simple so I am not surprised you got my point madly confused.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

First, nobody really knows WHO Hope is, deep down.

I didn't confuse Hope with Jean, but you're simple so I am not surprised you got my point madly confused.

-AC [/B]


We know she was the first mutant born since M day.

No your trying to say Hope maybe be jean. Thanks for the insult though champ. Jean be reincarnated as Hope seems very unlikely.

Originally posted by tjcoady
I wouldn't really care one way or the other, except that it would be super creepy to have Scott's girlfriend being raised by his son.

Not actually blood-incestuous, but just weird as hell.


yes and over all unlikely to be honest.

If I'm trying to say she MAY be Jean, then that doesn't mean I am confusing her with Jean, does it?

I didn't sit here thinking that Hope was actually not Hope, but a Jean Grey. I know who Hope is.

You tried telling me that I confused the two. My whole point was that there may not be a "two", as evidenced here:

"I am not surprised you confuse hope with jean. That is Hope all grown up.".

To quote Christian Bale: "THINK for one f*cking second.".

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
If I'm trying to say she MAY be Jean, then that doesn't mean I am confusing her with Jean, does it?

I didn't sit here thinking that Hope was actually not Hope, but a Jean Grey. I know who Hope is.

You tried telling me that I confused the two. My whole point was that there may not be a "two", as evidenced here:

"I am not surprised you confuse hope with jean. That is Hope all grown up.".

To quote Christian Bale: "THINK for one f*cking second.".

-AC


I originally believed you were confusing the two, until your response which i realized you believe hope and jean may be on in the same.
do you have to be such a ****ing ass hole all the time?

Hope being Jean is very unlikely. Makes little sense to the story. Hope desire to get to the mainstream universe is because she was raised out side of it by cable. It straight up be weird if Jean was hope and currently Selene is trying to bring back Jean from the deAd to be her slave if not mistaken or to consume her power or something in x-force. Wouldent bishop know hope was jean if that was true as well? wouldent he have tried to kill jean when she was jean and not hope? The only similar similarities they posses are red hair and green eyes. There few characters who posses similar apearences like MJ in spiderman, seem in my opinion a stretch to assume they are one in the same based on same colored hair and eyes, but thats just me.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Jean been dead for years now. Must be going on roughly 9 years. And she has the ability to be reborn due to her powers.

endsong, dude 😛

fraction seems to want to bring jean back soon one way or another.

hope is VERY like her, though, and i wouldnt be surprised if she was in some way connected to this whole thing...

Originally posted by -Pr-
endsong, dude 😛

fraction seems to want to bring jean back soon one way or another.

hope is VERY like her, though, and i wouldnt be surprised if she was in some way connected to this whole thing...


She was brought back for seconds lol she did not really coem back to life.

fraction an idiot lol.

Hope having connection to her is one thing, being her seems unlikely. Also just seem like a stupid and very wierd idea.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
She was brought back for seconds lol she did not really coem back to life.

fraction an idiot lol.

Hope having connection to her is one thing, being her seems unlikely. Also just seem like a stupid and very wierd idea.

she was alive, though.

yes, he is.

remember dude, its fraction.

Originally posted by -Pr-
she was alive, though.

yes, he is.

remember dude, its fraction.


wasent she an undead though? Also I ment more a long the lines of stay alive. Xverse people tend to stay dead when they infact die or if they come back if for very short time, for few issues or so.

yup

true lol, dam if he does I think I gunna stop reading any of his work. It would have gone to far. How he going to explain the whole bishop thing if he does I wonder? most likely ignore it lol

Originally posted by Battlehammer
wasent she an undead though? Also I ment more a long the lines of stay alive. Xverse people tend to stay dead when they infact die or if they come back if for very short time, for few issues or so.

yup

true lol, dam if he does I think I gunna stop reading any of his work. It would have gone to far. How he going to explain the whole bishop thing if he does I wonder? most likely ignore it lol

its a running joke in x-men that nobody ever stays dead, remember?

yep, he would.

Originally posted by -Pr-
its a running joke in x-men that nobody ever stays dead, remember?

yep, he would.


It is but none of them really die, turn out they were skrulls or some shit.
People who have died have stayed dead for the most part, well when compared to other branches of hero's lol.

He would your right lol

Originally posted by Battlehammer
It is but none of them really die, turn out they were skrulls or some shit.
People who have died have stayed dead for the most part, well when compared to other branches of hero's lol.

He would your right lol

colossus died and came back. psylocke was dead and came back. jean back in the day died and came back all the time until they retconned that shit.

x-men loves to kill people off, and then retcon it later. its dumb imo...

Originally posted by -Pr-
colossus died and came back. psylocke was dead and came back. jean back in the day died and came back all the time until they retconned that shit.

x-men loves to kill people off, and then retcon it later. its dumb imo...


Colossus wasent dead he was trapped beign experimented on if not mistaken. Psylocke body died her mind was put in anothers body. Jean came back becuase of pheinox who can't really die or soem crap.

True it does all get reconnt later, but it better then no reconnt I guess lol.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Colossus wasent dead he was trapped beign experimented on if not mistaken. Psylocke body died her mind was put in anothers body. Jean came back becuase of pheinox who can't really die or soem crap.

True it does all get reconnt later, but it better then no reconnt I guess lol.

that's what i meant, though. when i read the comic where colossus died, he was dead. i had to deal with marvel killing off one of my favourite characters.