Maybe the Extremis suit isnt much better than this version and it could be argued that somebody much better than Temugin would still kick his butt. Anyway I think KK would regardless, the scans are just food for thought.
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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
of course it's all gonna be retconned. That is what the final crisis is about. I dont' know what trick DC has up thier sleeves, But something Big seems to be happening. I don't like the fact that they put the Wildstorm universe as simply one Universe. i thought it was it's own multiverse.
If you're referring to the Monitors' discussion of it, I think it's still a multiverse. It's 1 of the 52, but it "branches off into it's own area" or something like that (I forget how they worded it). Wildstorm has its own mulitiverse, but collectively they lumped it into "1" of the 52 for convenience's sake. The Bleed connects it with the other 51 and branches into various different universes. Hell, there are story arcs in every facet of WS that have a multiverse. Authority, Stormwatch, Planetary, The Monarchy, etc. They'd be retconning way too much to make it 1 universe.
Originally posted by Alfheim
He gets the flight ring anyway.I'm not entirely sure but I think he can detect **** like that but I'm not certain. Its like MAs seem to have enhanced sense and I supsect somebody like KK would as well. I wouldnt even eb suprised if he could dodge the widebeam..how wide is it?
The wide-beam is (probably) around 2-5 metes.
Originally posted by grey fox
Possible , the whole "my enemy has no heart-beat" BS. However can KK tell the difference while being assaulted with sonics, repulsor blasts, pulse bolts and while I'm is behind a forcefield ?
Well first of all I dont think he would do it at the same time. Well what I mean is that he woudl project the holograms and then continue to blast. I dont think the sonic would work because KK has shown resistance to mind control and the sonics attack the mind. Basically im not sure but like I said since IM will probably project the holograms first that might give KK some time to detect the real IM.
Originally posted by grey fox
The wide-beam is (probably) around 2-5 metes.
In width or both width and length?
Originally posted by DigiMark007I agree.
If you're referring to the Monitors' discussion of it, I think it's still a multiverse. It's 1 of the 52, but it "branches off into it's own area" or something like that (I forget how they worded it). Wildstorm has its own mulitiverse, but collectively they lumped it into "1" of the 52 for convenience's sake. The Bleed connects it with the other 51 and branches into various different universes. Hell, there are story arcs in every facet of WS that have a multiverse. Authority, Stormwatch, Planetary, The Monarchy, etc. They'd be retconning way too much to make it 1 universe.
DC would have to retcon damn near every major WS story, to downgrade that multiverse to a single universe... I just don't see that happening.
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But I do wonder if this makes the "Ambrose Chase/Superman fight", canonical? 😕
Originally posted by SoljerThat's what I was thinking.
Agreed. Studying Steve, knowing him for years, watching him, taping him, THEN programming his armor to anticipate him?Sure.
Doing it on the fly? Nah.
Like you said, it would take years for Tony to study KK to such a degree that he knew every fighting style KK used in battle.
Originally posted by Galan007
I agree.DC would have to retcon damn near every major WS story, to downgrade that multiverse to a single universe... I just don't see that happening.
Not really , just state it's a self contained universe surrounded by parallel dimensions which have forcibly quasi-merged with it
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlKK seems to be flying in the top panel of this scan, no?
I was thinking of him in countdown. They don't really show him flying. Or maybe they do and i'm just being forgetful as always.
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Originally posted by grey foxThey have already explained that the 52 will turn into a megaverse. Thus each of them are already a multiverse of some sorts.
Nah , it's like a multiverse thats ATTEMPTING to become a multiverse , but cannot separate from it's main-verse. Thus it leeches off of the others , causing 'bleeds'.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Maybe the Extremis suit isnt much better than this version and it could be argued that somebody much better than Temugin would still kick his butt. Anyway I think KK would regardless, the scans are just food for thought.http://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vstemugin1a5sp.jpg
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Just like his father, Temugin can preform some hardcore chi-amping. And Temugin can get to such a degree that even Iron Man would have a hard time just keeping up with him. Though in this fight Temugin had the advantage of knowing a critical weak spot in Tony's armor.
In the second fight however Iron Man gave Temugin a much better fight even though Tony had multiple gunshot wounds and broken bones AND Temugin was using Mandrian's ten power rings.
Also both fights were way before Extremis, Temugin would never be able to outfight Tony like he did if he was powerup'd by Extremis.
Originally posted by Soljer
Agreed. Studying Steve, knowing him for years, watching him, taping him, THEN programming his armor to anticipate him?Sure.
Doing it on the fly? Nah.
Actually Tony's exact words when he was outfighting Captain America during the civil war event was thus:
"Your wasting your time Steve... This armor has recorded every punch you've ever thrown. It knows you next move before you do..."
By what Tony is saying here, the A.I. of the armor itself can learn and adapt all without Tony really doing a thing. The real question is how long would it take before the armor begins to read KK's moves before KK himself even thinks about doing the move?
Too long. KK knows every single MA in the 30th century.
Also, the armor does adapt from the point starting the fight to later:
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