Kang the Conqueror vs Wolverine

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Kang's armor is that good? 😕

Let me put it like this...today I picked up Kangs first appearance in Marvel and nearly shat my self over how easily he pwned the Avengers.

His suit.....

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[*]Has a force field so strong it blocked Thors hammer blows and had to be DEM'd
[*]A sub-space generator, Thor threw his hammer, it disappeared and came straight back at him.
[*]A radiation emitter (so strong that Thor had to drain it, IM couldn't)
[*]Automated Alarm to any temperament
[*]A flash-burst so strong it stunned the entire avengers
[*] A disintegration field which reduces ANY earth-made material into atoms, Mjolnir only survived due to it's mystical status
[/list]

With just these alone he could *****-slap Wolvie , his current armour is updated several times over.

Following up on the armor/no-armor question, in that fight with Cap, Kang's armor was already wasted from feedback from his mega-avatar-projector, the destruction of his giant orbital death-ray satellite, and falling from orbit amid the wreckage of said satellite. All that softened him up to the point where Cap could beat him down like that. (Note the tears and cracks visible in the scans.)

Now that I think about it, it sort of calls into question how injured Kang may have been before that fight with Cap even started.

Still, even if he already had two strikes against him when he fought Cap I don't see Kang beating Wolvie in melee without his armor intact.

Originally posted by jinzin
exactly, shingens not made of anything more durable than granite or steel.. so admantium claws or not wouldn't have made a diff in terms of the damage he sustained.

Ok I can go with that.

Originally posted by jinzin

No one's arguig with you there.

Ok.

Originally posted by jinzin

yup.

Ok are you agreeing that the point is null and void or that no HF Wolverine would have probably gone down, or both?

Originally posted by jinzin

Again what is that supposed to prove do you think?

Just proves why hes a top tier fighter. He did what most top tier fighters would have done try to run and use the envinronment.

Originally posted by jinzin

And OR DID use his pheremones.. 😕
That's how Wolverine lit his ass on fire. 😬

Wolverine probably would have gone down but he stole Deathstrike's breathing aparatus.

Why does OR need LD? Couldnt he have just got his on his own. I mean the guy had no problem in catching DD why would have a problem getting Wolverine. Really you just said it Wolverine was lucky to survive furthermore there seems to be two instances were he could have just decided to break his body in two but he didnt.

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Originally posted by jinzin

Positive. The issue references their last fight in the 2nd part of the Wolverine origins and endings arc.

I'll take your word for it.

Originally posted by jinzin

In that same fasion wouldn't you have to admit that the only reason Cap was exposed to a possibly fight-ending blow was because he slung his shield in the first place? Couldn't it be argued that if Wolverine doesn't have a shield to be slinging he won't overexpose himself to be vulnerable in "that same fasion"?

We cant say for sure. Yeah you could he did the same thing with Bane.

oh jinzin is right it was silver samuria. I think it was issue wolverine # 48 that it was stated.

Originally posted by grey fox
Let me put it like this...today I picked up Kangs first appearance in Marvel and nearly shat my self over how easily he pwned the Avengers.

His suit.....

[list]
[*]Has a force field so strong it blocked Thors hammer blows and had to be DEM'd
[*]A sub-space generator, Thor threw his hammer, it disappeared and came straight back at him.
[*]A radiation emitter (so strong that Thor had to drain it, IM couldn't)
[*]Automated Alarm to any temperament
[*]A flash-burst so strong it stunned the entire avengers
[*] A disintegration field which reduces ANY earth-made material into atoms, Mjolnir only survived due to it's mystical status
[/list]

With just these alone he could *****-slap Wolvie , his current armour is updated several times over.

Kang's a team-killer. If he uses his full capacities, Wolverine has no chance. I'm assuming from the setup here that he's entering melee with Logan to prove some sort of point, or as a matter of honor (or at least what passes for honor with Kang).

Originally posted by Laminator_X
Kang's a team-killer. If he uses his full capacities, Wolverine has no chance. I'm assuming from the setup here that he's entering melee with Logan to prove some sort of point, or as a matter of honor (or at least what passes for honor with Kang).

Does he have a respect thread ?

Originally posted by grey fox
Does he have a respect thread ?

No. I would make one if I had scans. Hes a badass.

Originally posted by Alfheim
No. I would make one if I had scans. Hes a badass.

He certainly deserves one.

Originally posted by jinzin

In that same fasion wouldn't you have to admit that the only reason Cap was exposed to a possibly fight-ending blow was because he slung his shield in the first place? Couldn't it be argued that if Wolverine doesn't have a shield to be slinging he won't overexpose himself to be vulnerable in "that same fasion"?

One more thing though. It could be argued that if Cap had not overexposed himself and got rid of Kangs sword that the fight would have gone on for longer. The taking of the sword was a pivotal point in that battle.

You can enlighten me but I dont think SS has any showings that indicate he could give Cap that much trouble. Shang Chi has been able to dodge SS sword strikes and hes not as good as Cap. The fight seems to indicate that Kang could be better than SS.

Originally posted by Alfheim
One more thing though. It could be argued that if Cap had not overexposed himself and got rid of Kangs sword that the fight would have gone on for longer. The taking of the sword was a pivotal point in that battle.

You can enlighten me but I dont think SS has any showings that indicate he could give Cap that much trouble. Shang Chi has been able to dodge SS sword strikes and hes not as good as Cap. The fight seems to indicate that Kang could be better than SS.

SS has stalemated wolverine
SS has stomped the shit out of spiderman twice I believe

the dude is a beast.

dodging some ones strikes does not make them more skilled............

Originally posted by Battlehammer
ss would give capt a way better fight then kang did.

oH yeah.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

SS has stalemated wolverine

Who on other occassions has had problems hitting Wolverine.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

SS has stomped the shit out of spiderman twice I believe

He got stomped by Cap in h2h

Originally posted by Battlehammer

the dude is a beast.

dodging some ones strikes does not make them more skilled............

Its like this. If Shang can dodge his strikes Cap inst going to have a problem either.

Originally posted by Alfheim
oH yeah.

Who on other occassions has had problems hitting Wolverine.

He got stomped by Cap in h2h

Its like this. If Shang can dodge his strikes Cap inst going to have a problem either.

you think because shang-chi dodge SS that makes ss less of a fightert then kang..............if dodging mad esome one a skileld fighter then spiderman would be the best fighter in marvel...........

SS stomp spiderman. capt was ebatign spiderman there a huge diffense. SS was actaully jut beating the shit out of him while holding back lol.

ss would give capt hell.

hell in a sword fight ss would kick capts ass.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
ss would give capt a way better fight then kang did.

Especially if SS hadn't just fallen from orbit.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
ur reasoning is rediculous.

Are you gonna start some **** with me again or are you gonna stay cool?

Originally posted by Battlehammer

you think because shang-chi dodge SS that makes ss less of a fightert then kang..............if dodging mad esome one a skileld fighter then spiderman would be the best fighter in marvel...........

Yes but Shang Chi is able to dodge because of his training not because he has superhuman reflexes, that doesnt change the fact that if Shang Chi could do that Cap would have done better. Get it?

Originally posted by Battlehammer

SS stomp spiderman. capt was ebatign spiderman there a huge diffense. SS was actaully jut beating the shit out of him while holding back lol.

So was Cap. You think Cap wanted to fight Spiderman, Cap wanst trying to kill him was he?

Originally posted by Battlehammer

ss would give capt hell.

hell in a sword fight ss would kick capts ass.

You havent porved anything.

Hehe.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Kang claims to have mastered every kind of martial art and weapon style known to man :/

To be fair, so do millions of people on the internet (often paired with claims of bench pressing at least 500lbs for reps, having 12" peckers, and dating only supermodels and centerfolds) 😂

From what little I've read of Kang, he hasn't shown much to back up his claims of possessing superb fighting skills. Wolverine ftw.