Isaac's Loft - The Official Social Thread

Originally posted by S_D_J
my analysis is wrong?

how is it wrong?

what does .07% means then?

what is it necessary for Nathan to know the percentage (not even the exact number) of "acceptable losses" before he realizes it was wrong?

one Innocent person it's not important?, it takes .07% to be important?
even Sylar knew it was wrong, and he never heard the "percentage"

the entire episode could have gone without the number ever being muttered, and it still would have made an impact. Nathan knew (in this episode) the true behind his running for congress, he finally knew the true of this entire scheme, and finally understood what he brother told him, he finally knew it was going to happen, that it wasn't delusions or crazy talk. He finally believed

to Nathan's question, Linderman could have simply say that there will be losses or just acceptable losses for a greater good, no need for the .07%.
Peter asked the question not expecting an answer, Nathan saying it made it funny, but it implies that he was considering the repercussions of his actions, he could just say "a lot" or "not many", or nothing at all, like Peter expected

if you're judging Nathan's decision, or indecision, it' s due to a "minuscule number" (it was not minuscule at all), then you'd be mistaken. It was overwhelming for him to know he's destiny has been decided for him, and in order to achieve it, New York needed to explode (by a Nuclear fallout no less), and many people needed to die. not just a bunch.

and without the number, it still would have been a killer episode, one the best heroes had last season

about "Lizards".... what if it is the name of the Irish thugs Gang?

just saying...

The number IS important because Linderman, himself, considers .07% to be a minuscule number, an acceptable loss. He told this to Nathan thinking that he might feel the same way and he'd go through with it.

This one number could make or break Nathan going along with the scheme to become President. Just telling him there would be losses would be stating the obvious. Telling him there would be acceptable losses is closer to the truth, but it doesn't give him the true scale of it all.

With him knowing that the blast would kill about only .07% of the Earth's population, it made him feel that "Hey, maybe it's not such a big deal after all. The world can move on. There are still many many more people out there." It brought Nathan some inner conflict. We know he made the right choice in the end, but the number almost deceived him.

Whether you want to admit it or not the number is important and it made an excellent cryptic title for the episode.

It made and excellent Criptic Tittle for the episode. no argument there

IMHO:
I consider it wasn't that much important.
In Liderman's twisted way of thinking .07% it's an acceptable loss, a way to make the death of innocent people acceptable, a way to tell yourself it's ok, but I dont' think that Nathan ever though it was ok, not even knowing it was a minuscule percentage of earth's population, it still would have made an impact, to both the US and the world. It was wrong.

just consider Sylar, even he knew it was wrong (and he's so twisted) because he had no gain out of the death of innocent people.. of course, that way of thinking didn't last long.

just to consider: None of this was supposed to happen, Nathan would have gone forward with the election and never flinched, he wouldn't have known the true behind the blast ( at least not after it happened) if it wasn't for future Hiro who came back and contact Peter to change the past (or the future either way you see it) none of it (the discussion or the "number" being told) would have ever happened 😬

Personally, .07% was important for Nathan, as Ken has already stated. If someone had said "Nathan, if you let the bomb happen, people will die!" he would likely have responded with "Eh...that's wrong. Shouldn't happen." But if you're presenting him with an acceptable loss, he was more likely to take the bait.

Not to mention that it was meant to be world-changing, not just US changing. If someone had said to him "60% of New York's population" he most likely would have said "Uh, no."

In any case, Lizards had to do with the reptile that Claire's biology class was studying, which could regrow its severed limbs...which Claire can likely do!

I guess I was mistaken about Lizards.... it was about a lizard.... a newt actually... 😄

did anyone freak out (or gross out) when Claire did what she did?

So am I the only one that even saw Peter phase threw the ropes? 😕

Originally posted by Entity
So am I the only one that even saw Peter phase threw the ropes? 😕

nope, almost everyone saw it

Originally posted by S_D_J
nope, almost everyone saw it

I mean if he could gain DL's abilities form that far away he should've gained Molly, and Micas too right?

yep, it would seem he would, or should....

... I just don't like the Idea

and I think it's better to discuss it in Peter's thread

Originally posted by Entity
Cool, so maybe I'm just then only one making such a big deal about it.

I mean if he could gain DL's abilities form that far away he should've gained Molly, and Micas too right?

Yes you are.

And yes he probably did gain those other powers but hasn't had them manifest in him yet.

Originally posted by Entity
So am I the only one that even saw Peter phase threw the ropes? 😕

So yeah...

*acts social and stuff*

As of last episode, I realized that Peter needs to re-learn how to activate his powers at will...oi...at least he doesn't need to be near people to trigger them, this season. ermm

*acts social*

Is Sylar in your sig, Ken?

😆

I'm still laughing at Peter for shouting:
Lightning, lightning, SPARKS, lightNING!!!

very "Spiderman" of him

..and then Ricky's sister says: So you just yell it out?

😆

Originally posted by Captain REX
As of last episode, I realized that Peter needs to re-learn how to activate his powers at will...oi...at least he doesn't need to be near people to trigger them, this season. ermm

*acts social*

Is Sylar in your sig, Ken?

No, just a random bloodied guy image I found on deviantART.

Originally posted by S_D_J
😆

I'm still laughing at Peter for shouting:
Lightning, lightning, SPARKS, lightNING!!!

very "Spiderman" of him

..and then Ricky's sister says: So you just yell it out?

😆

Spider-Man, not Spiderman...it is hyphenated for a reason.

Originally posted by Tattoo
No, just a random bloodied guy image I found on deviantART.

Spider-Man, not Spiderman...it is hyphenated for a reason.

It looks like baby sylar in the ava and his victim in the sig haha

Wheres the Nikki/Jessica thread 🙁

Jessica to Parkman: Didn't i throw you out a window?

Originally posted by Mairuzu
Wheres the Nikki/Jessica thread 🙁

I think the multi plot lines will hurt the show this season, it worked for season one, but it does not feel right this season, In the first season we were teased with them almost getting together and then they seperated till the end of the season, does anybody think it will work for this season?its not really working for me, i think the ratings dropped, and i dont want to see this show start to go downhill so soon

Originally posted by Strangelove
Make one 😐

and no one likes them anyways... if i make one im a douche!