Originally posted by Bicnarok
I think the Scottish rebel thing has been blown out of proportions by the Brave heart movie. Totally overrated.Wallace was actually a terrorist if you were to use modern day terminology.
i'd say more of a guerilla fighter than terrorist...his goal was to never terrorise people but to kill English soldiers...unlike Edward I who slaughtered thousands of men and women at Berwick
Originally posted by Fishy
Braveheart just because he cries Freedom at the end...Also because he ****ed up the English pretty badly
Braveheart is bollocks...the woman he falls in love with? She was about 10 at the time of his death I believe...the Battle of Stirling Bridge (His ONLY pitched battle victory) there was no bridge...
William Wallace was certainly an able man at some things but at the same time he only won the battle that his co-commander Moray lived to fight in...Moray died shortly after the Battle and Wallace lost at his next fight- Falkirk.
Robert the Bruce, now there is a genius...and he was an outlaw, and a very very dangerous one.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Understatement I am afraid- she was 3 at the time.But yes, Wallace lost hugely, was effectively fired by the Scots themselves and turned over by a Scot to the English.
Robert the Bruce fared rather better. However, trying to call any of these landed Scottish nobles 'outlaws' is streching it, I feel...
(Not, incidentally, that Scotland is part of England because of some evil military invasion. It was a polticial unification when Jmaes I took the throne, seeing as he was already King of Scotland)
(Not that THAT stopped the final English/Scottish battle at Culloden... which admittedly was pretty frigging evil on the English side, though no sides gave quarter in those days).
Meanwhile the idea of Scottish independence has been dealt a near-mortal blow by the credit crisis- because basically, an independent Scotland would have totally collapsed in it; London is having to bail it out. Amusingly, the ones who wanted independence were holding up Iceland as an example of how an independent Scotland could succeed...
Robin Hood- existent or not- is a candidate for most famous outlaw, I dunno about most dangerous.
Ugh, sick.
Well then his offspring is not ruling England...although I am sure more dodgy forefathers are involved there. HAAAH!
Originally posted by Robtard
I agree, have never been able to watch more than 5 minutes of a John Wayne flick. Also, why does he walk like he spent the better part of the previous night getting ****ed up the ass by a humongous cock?
Bad analogy. Guys don't walk funny after anal sex. John Wayne walks like he's got to take a major shit and it's starting to crown.
Originally posted by jaden101
i'd say more of a guerilla fighter than terrorist...his goal was to never terrorise people but to kill English soldiers...unlike Edward I who slaughtered thousands of men and women at Berwick
Both Wallace and Bruce used terrorising tactics in the North of England... and got allot of money from it.