Wolverine and the X-men

Originally posted by Battlehammer
...................................your reasoning for not wanting to watch it......is becuases of a title..........that even more retarded.

styupid ide anf fail

Originally posted by Battlehammer
.........Main star true............not like spiderman has not gotten what 3 or 4 shows for him self........

Is Wolverine the founder of the X-Men? No. Xavier is.
Is Wolverine leader of the X-Men? No. Cyclops is.

If the opposite there were true, then I'd agree that Logan's "main star" material, but when it comes down to it, he's not. Just one of those hotshot guys who takes up the spotlight of other characters.

I like Wolverine as much as the next person, but come on. There's no really denying that. 😬

Originally posted by Shadow_King
looking at the animation and just from the title, its gonna be like x-men evolution all over again.

I don't really mind it though. I mean, Evolution may have not lived up to the epicness of the original X-Men animated series, but it was still good in its own way (IMO at least).

And thanks for agreeing with my other point. =)

Originally posted by Battlehammer
...........Logan was more focused on in the original x-men animate series.........then in evolution.

Also, don't forget the Captain America episode in Evolution that was centered mainly around Wolverine. 😛

Originally posted by Battlehammer
............films are nothing like the comics.........that said if you took Logan out the x-men would bomb.........badly.

I was never suggesting for them to take out Logan altogether though, because that would bomb.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
In all the other TV shows Logan was never the focal point it was the team...........

If i were to plan out an X-Men series...
Every season
1 story arc
-1 main villain
-1-2 main character(s)
-1 supporting

1+ sub arc (relevant to main arc)
-1+ supporting character(s)
-1+ supporting villain(s)

-Then filler epsisode would showcase characters who have little involvement in the arcs

Ex:
Sentinel Arc
-1 Main villain=Master Mold
-Main character(s)
-Professor X, Magneto

-Sub arcs
-Mutant Registration Acts (info later programmed into sentinels)
-supporting character(s)= Senator Kelly, Cyclops + Jean (activists)
-Asteroid M (created as mutant haven to escape the Sentinel wrath, causes Magneto's rise from savior to villain)
-Supporting character(s)=Mastermind

Filler episode ideas-
-Wolverine teams up with runaway Jubilee in Canada
-Storm vs Shadow King in Africa
-Beast attends Empire State University where he periodically fights crime alongside Spiderman (pre-beast look tho)

Originally posted by jdea
If i were to plan out an X-Men series...
Every season
1 story arc
-1 main villain
-1-2 main character(s)
-1 supporting

1+ sub arc (relevant to main arc)
-1+ supporting character(s)
-1+ supporting villain(s)

-Then filler epsisode would showcase characters who have little involvement in the arcs

Ex:
Sentinel Arc
-1 Main villain=Master Mold
-Main character(s)
-Professor X, Magneto

-Sub arcs
-Mutant Registration Acts (info later programmed into sentinels)
-supporting character(s)= Senator Kelly, Cyclops + Jean (activists)
-Asteroid M (created as mutant haven to escape the Sentinel wrath, causes Magneto's rise from savior to villain)
-Supporting character(s)=Mastermind

Filler episode ideas-
-Wolverine teams up with runaway Jubilee in Canada
-Storm vs Shadow King in Africa
-Beast attends Empire State University where he periodically fights crime alongside Spiderman (pre-beast look tho)

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Hmm. Pretty well thought out (especially the arc with Master Mold 🙂), but... where's Apocalypse? 🙁 You can't (or at least shouldn't) exclude the ancient Egyptian. 31

Well he'd have his own arc, he's too good to use as a sub arc

I thought this whole tthing up a while ago, I even wrote a half of teh 1st season and jotted down notes for up to 6 seasons... so here's a quick over view if anyone's interested

Season 1-above

S2
-Following the defeat of the sentinels the governments attention is turned to Asteroid M
-in the finale magneto declares war to keep it in orbit, X-men fly up to stop him, and as they fight it becomes unstable and plunges to earth Jean saves it much like her original comic version by bonding with the Pheonix, but giving her life

S3
-Scott acts like he did in X3 (grief stricken)
-The Shi'ar approach earth to stop Phoenix from becoming dark Phoenix, X-Men reveal she's already dead,
-After they leave Jean's body turns up -Dr. nathaniel Essex (sinister) find her and after secretly experimenting her turns her over to X-Men
-Hellfire club sends Emma Frost to awaken Dark Phoenix, she bonds with Scott, thus alienating Jean and in the seasons climax frees Dark Phoenix, and she joins Hellfire club
-X-Men battle Hellfire club and Dark Phoenix

Apocalypse Arc
-1 Main villain=Apocalyspe
-Main character(s)
-Cyclops

-Sub arcs
-Experimentation on mutants (Sinister tests mutants from Morlocks to find the 4 perfect horsemen, and find a compatible DNA to bond with the Jean's DNA to creat a perfect host for Apocalypse=Nate Grey
-supporting character(s)= Sinister
-4 horsemen (seek out the 12 to free apocalypses soul)
-Supporting character(s)=4 horsemen, the 12

Filler episode ideas-

Originally posted by jdea
Well he'd have his own arc, he's too good to use as a sub arc

Originally posted by jdea
I thought this whole tthing up a while ago, I even wrote a half of teh 1st season and jotted down notes for up to 6 seasons... so here's a quick over view if anyone's interested

Season 1-above

S2
-Following the defeat of the sentinels the governments attention is turned to Asteroid M
-in the finale magneto declares war to keep it in orbit, X-men fly up to stop him, and as they fight it becomes unstable and plunges to earth Jean saves it much like her original comic version by bonding with the Pheonix, but giving her life

S3
-Scott acts like he did in X3 (grief stricken)
-The Shi'ar approach earth to stop Phoenix from becoming dark Phoenix, X-Men reveal she's already dead,
-After they leave Jean's body turns up -Dr. nathaniel Essex (sinister) find her and after secretly experimenting her turns her over to X-Men
-Hellfire club sends Emma Frost to awaken Dark Phoenix, she bonds with Scott, thus alienating Jean and in the seasons climax frees Dark Phoenix, and she joins Hellfire club
-X-Men battle Hellfire club and Dark Phoenix

Apocalypse Arc
-1 Main villain=Apocalyspe
-Main character(s)
-Cyclops

-Sub arcs
-Experimentation on mutants (Sinister tests mutants from Morlocks to find the 4 perfect horsemen, and find a compatible DNA to bond with the Jean's DNA to creat a perfect host for Apocalypse=Nate Grey
-supporting character(s)= Sinister
-4 horsemen (seek out the 12 to free apocalypses soul)
-Supporting character(s)=4 horsemen, the 12

Filler episode ideas-

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Oh, yeah. Good point. 😛

Nice...
That would make the perfect animated series. ✅

thanks, do u or anyone else have any ideas/hopes that the series should include?

Originally posted by jdea
thanks, do u or anyone else have any ideas/hopes that the series should include?

Just a thought.

When would Omega Red be involved??? also they could do a season on the legacy virus.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
How is he not overrated? Overrated generally, is when someone/something gets more respect than they deserve. We've seen Logan get a lot more screen-time than necessary in all 3 movies and then some, and now he's going to be the main star in this upcoming animated series as well? That's just too much spotlight for the guy if you ask me, and he's become overrated because of that. Very.

In the comics, he was just another mutant, but now he's...

I like how Roger Ebert put it, in his review of X2.

"These superpowers are so oddly assorted that an X-Men adventure is like a game of chess where every piece has a different move. Some of the powers are awesome; Storm stops an aerial pursuit by generating tornadoes with her mental powers, and Dr. Jean Grey is able to restart an airplane in mid-air.

Odd, then, that Wolverine is one of the dominant characters even though his X-Acto knuckles seem pretty insignificant compared to the powers of Pyro or Cyclops."

😛

Originally posted by Shadow_King
When would Omega Red be involved??? also they could do a season on the legacy virus.

Of course he would be involved! Somehow...
He had a history with Wolverine after all, and hopefully he'll play a much bigger role than he did in Evolution 31. Perhaps the same might apply to X-23 as well. 🙂

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
I like how Roger Ebert put it, in his review of X2.

"These superpowers are so oddly assorted that an X-Men adventure is like a game of chess where every piece has a different move. Some of the powers are awesome; Storm stops an aerial pursuit by generating tornadoes with her mental powers, and Dr. Jean Grey is able to restart an airplane in mid-air.

Odd, then, that Wolverine is one of the dominant characters even though his X-Acto knuckles seem pretty insignificant compared to the powers of Pyro or Cyclops."

😛

When compared to the other mutants there, Wolverine doesn't sound like 'dominant character' material at all, though they made him a dominant character anyway. bash
Him being one in X-2 was exceptional though, with Stryker being the main antagonist and all. X-2 IMO, was easily the best movie in the trilogy.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Well, since the upcoming series is called [B]Wolverine and the X-Men, I think it would be more fitting for Sabretooth to be one of the main villains than Magneto (since he's basically Logan's main rival).

Just a thought. [/B]

That's a great idea, i read up on Sabretooth's history on wikipedia and his comic counterpart is loaded with interesting arcs, I always wondered why he was always played as a minor character?

Originally posted by Shadow_King
When would Omega Red be involved??? also they could do a season on the legacy virus.

I don't know much about Omega Red, was he that guy from evo with the blonde hair and pale skin?

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Ah yes. Omega Red. Can't believe I forgot about that guy...

Of course he would be involved! Somehow...
He had a history with Wolverine after all, and hopefully he'll play a much bigger role than he did in Evolution 31. Perhaps the same might apply to X-23 as well. 🙂

😆

When compared to the other mutants there, Wolverine doesn't sound like 'dominant character' material at all, though they made him a dominant character anyway. bash
Him being one in X-2 was exceptional though, with Stryker being the main antagonist and all. X-2 IMO, was easily the best movie in the trilogy.

i agree X-2 was the best

also Wolverine shouldn't be thrusted into the forgrouond, but anyway since he is a tv version of stryker would be fascinating to explore, as well as X-23 and sabretooth

do you think the series will touch on his youth, as means to flesh out his true origins?... maybe fflashin back to his growing up as he meets new foes from his past

Originally posted by jdea
That's a great idea, i read up on Sabretooth's history on wikipedia and his comic counterpart is loaded with interesting arcs, I always wondered why he was always played as a minor character?

Originally posted by jdea
I don't know much about Omega Red, was he that guy from evo with the blonde hair and pale skin?

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Originally posted by jdea
i agree X-2 was the best

Yeah. In my book, the Nightcrawler president assassination-attempt scene pwns any scene in X-1 or X-3. 😛

Originally posted by jdea
also Wolverine shouldn't be thrusted into the forgrouond, but anyway since he is a tv version of stryker would be fascinating to explore, as well as X-23 and sabretooth

Originally posted by jdea
do you think the series will touch on his youth, as means to flesh out his true origins?... maybe fflashin back to his growing up as he meets new foes from his past

p.s. Anyone remember this song from Evolution? 😛

YouTube video

I wonder if they might implement something similar in Wolverine and the X-Men with most of the female muties. xd

It would be cool if we could see some Wolverine villains, such as Geist, Cyber, Albert, Elsie-dee, and Bloodscream. Although I bet the only Wolverine villains we'll see, if any, are Lady Deathstrike, Sabretooth, and Omega Red. It'd also be cool if they tied in Agent Zero, or maybe even Deadpool.

Wow Omega Red is really interesting, that pheremone ability sounds incredible, I wonder if it'd effect Wolverine with the whole healing factor and all

Deadpool is one of my fav's I hope they include him

Originally posted by jdea
Wow Omega Red is really interesting, that pheremone ability sounds incredible, I wonder if it'd effect Wolverine with the whole healing factor and all

Originally posted by jdea
Deadpool is one of my fav's I hope they include him

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Ah. Comparing him to Spiderman are we? Let's see...

Is Wolverine the founder of the X-Men? No. Xavier is.
Is Wolverine leader of the X-Men? No. Cyclops is.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime

If anything, that's one thing I liked about Evolution most (in general). He didn't have too much screen-time, but at the same time, had enough to make him a memoriable character in that series. 🙂

Also, don't forget the Captain America episode in Evolution that was centered mainly around Wolverine. 😛

Now that I can agree with.

I was never suggesting for them to take out Logan altogether though, because that would bomb.

And yet none of the other X-Men characters ain't ever gotten as many episodes centered around them (or their past) as Wolverine has, bub. 😛

This is due to the fact unlike any other x-men Logan had entire life before jioing the team. logan has lead armiers into battle. Fought in countless battles. Lead meta human teams. Lived several life times.