Parallax vs. Mad Jim Jaspers

Originally posted by Mr Master
Time based attacks don't work on Jaspers.

Merlyn and even Roma had absolute control over Time,
but within Jaspers warp, the Concept of Time became Jaspers whim.

Jaspers rearranged the entire 616 Timeline, heck ... he became it.

"He is lonely, but he is also GOD

"I made everything actually, I made the sky, I made the Tiger the Lamb"

"I made the Stars"

But can he stop Parallax from changing his families history? He didn't show that he had knowlege of time like that. Parrallax wins the battle before it begins by simply wiping MJJ out of existance and thus there is no one to fight.

Second time around is always a charm.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Time based attacks don't work on Jaspers.

Merlyn and even Roma had absolute control over Time,
but within Jaspers warp, the Concept of Time became Jaspers whim.

Jaspers rearranged the entire 616 Timeline, heck ... he became it.

"He is lonely, but he is also GOD

"I made everything actually, I made the sky, I made the Tiger the Lamb"

"I made the Stars"

stoned

Originally posted by Mr Master
Second time around is always a charm.

stoned

So who's more powerful, Someone who becomes a timeline, or someone who has power over multiple time lines and erases and creates them without even trying?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So who's more powerful, Someone who becomes a timeline, or someone who has power over multiple time lines and erases and creates them without even trying?

Again,

Merlyn had power over ALL Timelines and UniverseS in Marvel,

and still Jaspers >>> Merlyn.

So please with this Timeline cop out, cheese move.

The cat is gonna have to battle in this one. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
Again,

Merlyn had power over ALL Timelines and UniverseS in Marvel,

and still Jaspers >>> Merlyn.

So please with this Timeline cop out, cheese move.

The cat is gonna have to battle in this one. 🙂

Merlyn doesn't seem to be all that he is cracked up to be. DID merly try and erase time to kill MJJ? becuz it doesn't matter how powerful merlyn isn't if he didnt' try and fail in the very same manner that I"m arguing. We all know that characters have abilities they dont' use for sake of a good story.

Other ways for Parallax to win, Taking MJJ's Soul. Something Parallax has power over and MJJ doesn't to my knowlege.

Turning off MJJ's mutant Gene.

Sealing up MJJ's reality in a pocket dimension. As was done with the other SB's Universe.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Merlyn doesn't seem to be all that he is cracked up to be.

You're kidding right?

Merlyn has some of the greatest feats in Marvel's history.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DID merly try and erase time to kill MJJ?

Time based attacks don't work on Jaspers or Jamie.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
becuz it doesn't matter how powerful merlyn isn't if he didnt' try and fail in the very same manner that I"m arguing. We all know that characters have abilities they dont' use for sake of a good story.

Jaspers overwrites Merlyn's Omniversal power over the Concept of Time.

What can I tell ya.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Other ways for Parallax to win, Taking MJJ's Soul.
Something Parallax has power over and MJJ doesn't to my knowlege.

Jaspers created beings with souls from basically nothing:

"He MAKES Friends easily"

That crew he just created went on on their own After Jaspers was killed.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Turning off MJJ's mutant Gene.

Yea ok.

What about Jaspers turning Parallax into a pickle to go with his ham sandwich.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Sealing up MJJ's reality in a pocket dimension.

MJJ's warp expands exponentially and unless he's stopped directly,

all of Reality becomes his:

Merlin says,

"You cannot fail, this version of Japers is too powerful, too dangerous"

They had to destroy the entire 238 Universe
in order to kill 238 Jaspers,

but 616 Jaspers is,

"NOT so easily contained, and if he's not stopped,

the OMNI-VERSE will fall into Chaos,

and a NEW GOD shall play dice with Matter"

..............................................................................................

Is Merlyn hyperboling?

Not at all,

Cobweb SAW it all happen in an alternate possible Future
where Jaspers wasn't stoped by the Plot Device the Fury:

"But if this Game is Lost, I see a Universe eaten alive by Chaos,
and ANOTHER Universe, and ANOTHER, like Dominos, Tumbling ...
I see the Future"

"And it is Cancelled"

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
As was done with the other SB's Universe. [/B]

I don't know who that is, but it ain't this abbreviation MJJ.

Originally posted by Mr Master
You're kidding right?

Merlyn has some of the greatest feats in Marvel's history.

Time based attacks don't work on Jaspers or Jamie.

Jaspers overwrites Merlyn's Omniversal power over the Concept of Time.

What can I tell ya.

Jaspers created beings with souls from basically nothing:

"He MAKES Friends easily"

That crew he just created went on on their own After Jaspers was killed.

Yea ok.

What about Jaspers turning Parallax into a pickle to go with his ham sandwich.

MJJ's warp expands exponentially and unless he's stopped directly,

all of Reality becomes his:

Merlin says,

"You cannot fail, this version of Japers is too powerful, too dangerous"

They had to destroy the entire 238 Universe
in order to kill 238 Jaspers,

but 616 Jaspers is,

"NOT so easily contained, [B]and if he's not stopped,

the OMNI-VERSE will fall into Chaos,

and a NEW GOD shall play dice with Matter"

..............................................................................................

Is Merlyn hyperboling?

Not at all,

Cobweb SAW it all happen in an alternate possible Future
where Jaspers wasn't stoped by the Plot Device the Fury:

"But if this Game is Lost, I see a Universe eaten alive by Chaos,
and ANOTHER Universe, and ANOTHER, like Dominos, Tumbling ...
I see the Future"

"And it is Cancelled"

I don't know who that is, but it ain't this abbreviation MJJ. [/B]

Creating a living being isn't the same thing as having power over souls. I mean as in Parallax attacking his soul. The power of the Oans has been shown to attack Supernatural aspects when nothing else could. Also could MJJ's power spread exponetially only becuz in marvel, one doesn't really need mutliversal power to affect everything since according to you, the 616 is the back bone. You change the 616 and everything else falls in line. As for someone seeing an alternate future, i'm not buying any of that. And I dont' remember Merlyn trying to wipe jaspers family from existance. or turning them into ham and cheese.

Apparently the Time Trapper has better feats than MJJ and since Parallax one-shotted TT, he >>>>>> MJJ.

*sigha dn shakes head* Retards.

jim jaspers crushes him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
jim jaspers crushes him.

QFT. Those scans imply that had not Jaspers been stopped by a plot device (the fury teleporting him to a conveniently located universe where there was no reality that he just happened to be aware of) Then NOTHING in ANY of the marvel universes would have been able to stop MJJ.

This includes many, many, many abstracts with power over time, (galactus, a low end abstract can time travel...hell, so can the surfer), sorcerers like Dr. Strange who have power to not only traverse time but freeze and rewind it at will, "omnipotent" devices like the infinity gauntlet or HOTU...etc.

The "erasing his family tree" concept obviously wouldn't work as it's clearly implied that jaspers either has control over space/time or would be immune to any attempt to change it that way.

Edit: It just occurred to me and I forgot- supposedly by marvel canon, changing an event in the past will not prevent that event from occurring, only create another divergent timeline. So even in theory IF parallax could "erase jasper's family tree" that would only create a divergent timeline where jaspers did not exist. The current Jaspers would still be there, warping the universe like crazy.

Entropy rift ftw. 🙂

Originally posted by Juntai
You can believe what you want to, I'm not trying to convince you otherwise, your opinion is yours. It's whatever. I'm just making it clear what you're claiming happened wasn't on panel. Probably why you haven't bothered to rebuttle my claims yet after several posts.

Your not worth it sorry....i proved with your own words spectre lost, so how did you come to the realization spectre got put down? never mind i am not the type to gloat and say owned or anything...but you seem like a sore looser

But this is Parallax vs MJJ your not worth derailing the thread to prove wrong...

Parallax for the win

Originally posted by starlock
Your not worth it sorry....i proved with your own words spectre lost, so how did you come to the realization spectre got put down? never mind i am not the type to gloat and say owned or anything...but you seem like a sore looser

But this is Parallax vs MJJ your not worth derailing the thread to prove wrong...

Parallax for the win

You might interpret my words however you want that Spectre was somehow KOed, but it only makes you look bad, because the event never happened on panel. Parallax ran out of juice, Spectre still had vast enough amount of energy left to assist Damage in becoming the new Big Bang[which is then of course written out as soon as it happened, with replacing defeated Hal in the timeline.].

Is it that I'm not worth a solid rebuttle, or that you can't provide one?

Originally posted by starlock
Your not worth it sorry....i proved with your own words spectre lost, so how did you come to the realization spectre got put down? never mind i am not the type to gloat and say owned or anything...but you seem like a sore looser

But this is Parallax vs MJJ your not worth derailing the thread to prove wrong...

Parallax for the win

I must step in. Parallax didnt' beat the Spectre. As a matter of fact, It was becuz of the Spectre that Parrallax lost. The SPectres job was only to allow Hal to be humuliated by the heroes by losing and then restart time. It's very obvious the Spectre could have killed Parallax easily. Hal was a human with a soul. The Spectre owns the masters of souls for breakfast.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
QFT. Those scans imply that had not Jaspers been stopped by a plot device (the fury teleporting him to a conveniently located universe where there was no reality that he just happened to be aware of) Then NOTHING in ANY of the marvel universes would have been able to stop MJJ.

This includes many, many, many abstracts with power over time, (galactus, a low end abstract can time travel...hell, so can the surfer), sorcerers like Dr. Strange who have power to not only traverse time but freeze and rewind it at will, "omnipotent" devices like the infinity gauntlet or HOTU...etc.

The "erasing his family tree" concept obviously wouldn't work as it's clearly implied that jaspers either has control over space/time or would be immune to any attempt to change it that way.

Edit: It just occurred to me and I forgot- supposedly by marvel canon, changing an event in the past will not prevent that event from occurring, only create another divergent timeline. So even in theory IF parallax could "erase jasper's family tree" that would only create a divergent timeline where jaspers did not exist. The current Jaspers would still be there, warping the universe like crazy.

👆 ✅

Precisely.

I don't think these cats get it. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
Entropy rift ftw.

Parallax turned into a pickle for the Jaspers win.

See how easy that is to say. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
Parallax turned into a pickle for the Jaspers win.

See how easy that is to say. 🙂

Except I know Parallax can release Entropy rifts on a whim. 🙂

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I must step in. Parallax didnt' beat the Spectre. As a matter of fact, It was becuz of the Spectre that Parrallax lost. The SPectres job was only to allow Hal to be humuliated by the heroes by losing and then restart time. It's very obvious the Spectre could have killed Parallax easily. Hal was a human with a soul. The Spectre owns the masters of souls for breakfast.

Thats your opinon cool with me..but i hope my time here has shown i am not bias at all not one iotta

When i read zero hour(which has been at my table for over 7 months as a trade and i own the comics as i got them as they came out) i see parallax fighting spectre and the heroes..after a page or so parallax blast spectre and he cries out..he seems to disapear...kyle then says spectre's sacrafice has weakened parallax....now this is going on while parallax is fighting on both fronts and is being drained at the same time....spectre then appaers after hal has been defeated

In my world Spectre was beat..sorry if DC made that comic and gave specte a low showing..call it pis? ok maybe....but i am not bias and i dont like what they do with spectre and then just because of his station and role he is exempt from loses? sorry i cant do that..i call them as i see them

Now what is talked about in later comics such as hal stating parallax was nothing next to the spectre means little or nothing to me.....in zero hour spectre was defeated in my opinon

And What a feat for Parallax right! evidence shows him stalemating then blasting spectre away..while fighting heroes while being drained

If i was to see a thread Zero hour-Parallax vs Spectre.....i would hope to see parallax for the win as a majority....but when a character with spectre's role is put down..look out! cant have that

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah,

Except I know Parallax can release Entropy rifts on a whim.

Just like I know
Jaspers can resist nullification of Time & Space, which is what an Entropy rift is.

And just like I know Jaspers can turn cats into pickels or anything else on a whim.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Just like I know
Jaspers can resist nullification of Time & Space, which is what an Entropy rift is.

You're trying to relate an entropy rift to the UN or CN, and that's an incorrect way to look at things.

An Entropy is a force which "nothing can possibly survive", it's a force that has never been resisted.... It simply destroys all in it's path, period.

Originally posted by Mr Master
And just like I know Jaspers can turn cats into pickels or anything else on a whim.