Pyron vs. the DBZverse

Originally posted by No End N Site
Gito is possibly billions of times stronger than Buu. Heh, we don't even know what S.Buu's limits are, all we know is, he aint stronger than another character we don't know the limits of.

Pyron's Cosmo Disro aint even a move that requires effort. He's just summonin' shit from space. He could do that in his sleep. It is stronger than what we've SEEN from the DBZers, but events in DBZ have never required a character to blow up a series of stars. Seriously, Gito prolly could too, if the circumstances allowed it. Hell, Freeza's a planet buster and Goku alone is millions, upon millions, of times stronger than him. Gito's got Kaioken, too. He could go SSJ and do a Kaioken times God knows what number. This is the whole verse, so he could use Dragonballs and every damn thing.

There is just too much stuff we don't know.

Which is exactly why it is more impressive. He shrinks and teleports constellations from space, makes them supernova, then restores them to their original form and state. The energy/matter manipulation required to do that is immense, and he does it easily, in a form that is nothing compared to his full power. Gito prolly could do? Why? No one else has ever done it. Shit, Mystic Gohan was killed by a planet busting blast, and Goku and Vegeta were completely unable to stop it. Now Vegito is considerably stronger than them, but billions of times so? Probably not. Kaioken was dropped when SSJ was gained, because it was just a much less useful and shittier, and has a very short time limit. As for dragonballs, can do nothing to a being that is more powerful than the one who creates them. Pyron falls under this category.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Possibly. But that is highly, highly unlikely. We do know that no one in DBZ has ever destroyed more than a planet.

Which is exactly why it is more impressive. He shrinks and teleports constellations from space, makes them supernova, then restores them to their original form and state. The energy/matter manipulation required to do that is immense, and he does it easily, in a form that is nothing compared to his full power. Gito prolly could do? Why? No one else has ever done it. Shit, Mystic Gohan was killed by a planet busting blast, and Goku and Vegeta were completely unable to stop it. Now Vegito is considerably stronger than them, but billions of times so? Probably not. Kaioken was dropped when SSJ was gained, because it was just a much less useful and shittier, and has a very short time limit. As for dragonballs, can do nothing to a being that is more powerful than the one who creates them. Pyron falls under this category.

How is that highly unlikely? We aren't given enough information to come to that conclusion.

I didn't mean Gito could control the contents of outter space, only that he could destroy a star. The fact that Gohan was killed by a planet bustin' blast is clearly a stupid plot inconsistency. Freeza has tanked planet bustin' and he's much much weaker than M.Gohan. And for the rec, M.Gohan<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Gito. And yes, by billions. M.Gohan couldn't even beat Piccolo & Gotenks S.Buu. Vegito stomped S.Buu with Pic, Tenks and Gohan all combined as a piece of phuckin' candy. He didn't even have to go SS. And Kaioken wasn't dropped in favor of SS, cuz it was "shitty". As with many moves in DBZ, Toriyama just forgot about the damn move. You do have a point about the DB's tho.

Pyron has this match in the bag.

Nuff said.

Originally posted by No End N Site
How is that highly unlikely? We aren't given enough information to come to that conclusion.

I didn't mean Gito could control the contents of outter space, only that he could destroy a star. The fact that Gohan was killed by a planet bustin' blast is clearly a stupid plot inconsistency. Freeza has tanked planet bustin' and he's much much weaker than M.Gohan. And for the rec, M.Gohan<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Gito. And yes, by billions. M.Gohan couldn't even beat Piccolo & Gotenks S.Buu. Vegito stomped S.Buu with Pic, Tenks and Gohan all combined as a piece of phuckin' candy. He didn't even have to go SS. And Kaioken wasn't dropped in favor of SS, cuz it was "shitty". As with many moves in DBZ, Toriyama just forgot about the damn move. You do have a point about the DB's tho.

Only, not only has no one in DBZ performed a feat that would lead me to believe they could destroy a sun-sized star, but that STILL does not equal Pyron's mortal feat. The ability to shrink and teleport entire constellations, making them supernova, and then restoring them to their point in space at full size without any effort is an incredible feat above DBZ's very best by a great amount. Is it now? Because Goku and Vegeta were completely and totally unable to stop said planet busting blast. DBZ characters never grow out of that awkward planet busting phase. Keep in mind, that planets have varying size, just because you can blow up Earth, does not mean you could do so to Jupiter for instance. Namek IIRC is even smaller than Earth. Vegito is stronger than Gohan by billions? Orly? How's about you try proving that baseless statement? I don't think you quite understand exactly how much stronger billions would make him. First of all, by the time Vegito fought Buu, the fusion in him wore off, he no longer had Gotenk's power. Beyond that, Goku then believed they would not need to fuse to beat him then, it was only after absorbing Mystic Gohan that he again became a problem. That does not equate to Vegito being "billions" of times stronger. Oh, and the candy was IIRC filler, as in noncanon. And he uh, did go SSJ. 😐 And the SSJ levels only increase your strength by 50 times. Why yes, yes it was. Kaioken is inferior in every way to the SSJ form, we NEVER see it again, and even if Toriyama DID forget it, why would we give Super Vegito the ability to use a move that has not been used by anyone since the Freeza saga?

Damn right I have a good point. estahuh

Dude, you can't prove that and the amount of evidence necessary to come to that conclusion is grossly lackin'...

Dude, most of what you just told me is 1 big ass assumption. You can't go sayin' what Gito and Pyron can and can't do based offa what they do when there not tryin'. You can't make negative comparisons based offa inconsistent showins. You're basically tryin' to guess the size of the universe just by what you can see with your naked eye. I mean, at least my estimations are HUGE, you're tryin' to make Gito sound like he can 'barley' beat M.Gohan.

M.Gohan could not beat Gotenks Buu. In fact, Gohan started gettin' his ass kicked...Royaly.

Gohan Buu (who still has power of Trunks, Goten and Pic inside him) is still far stronger than what Gohan was and has no known limits, other than the fact that he can't beat Gito. They never flew around destroyin' the univerese cuz the plot didn't require it (Toriyama needed Gito to beat Buu's ass to demonstrate his ridiculousness. Saiyins can't breath in sapce. Why would he allow him to blow up the planets as colllaterall damage when he can just show Gito kick the dude's ass nobody has been able to kick?) We no weakin's in DBZ can bust planets...easily. I mean, f'real?

It's Potara fusion not a Dance fusion. That means X, not +.

You must really be forgettin' what went down with Gito VS S.Buu. Gito barely tried at all, and only went SSJ cuz he wanted too. That's way too lil of a showin to even attempt to gauge Gito's power to be anywhere near the 2nd strongest character in the manga.

And actually, the ass kickin' candy is in the manga.