Originally posted by Funkadelic
Michael Jackson!I like him, don't get me wrong.
But I just think Prince is in a whole other league.
The one of Jimi Hendrix, James Brown, Sly Stone...Not the league of Michael Jackson, Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears...
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Michael Jackson's vocals are second to none. Timberlake and Spears are only trying to copy the success of MJ. Heck Timberlake's first album that came out was mostly songs Michael didn't want to use for his Invincible album.
There are plenty of more able singers than Michael Jackson.
If he's your favourite singer then fine, but he's not the best singer on a technical level.
Originally posted by Funkadelic
Michael Jackson!I like him, don't get me wrong.
But I just think Prince is in a whole other league.
The one of Jimi Hendrix, James Brown, Sly Stone...Not the league of Michael Jackson, Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears...
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Michael Jackson is on the same level as Justin and Britney?
You're an idiot.
-AC
Originally posted by Funkadelic
Yes, I Know.Off course he is A LOT better. But he's way 2 commercial for me.
That's what I meant.
He's way too commercial so you lump him in with those two, despite knowing he is leagues above most people, let alone those two? Yes, that was very stupid.
As for too "commercial", dude, you like Prince.
Prince is arguably more commercial than Jackson. Unless you mean he's too poppy, which I still don't get, cos Prince has been as poppy.
-AC
Originally posted by Funkadelic
MJ makes music he thinks people will like.
Prince makes music he himself likes.
A) Proof?
B) Why not just say that? Why say MJ is on the same level as Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake, then retract it, then say he's too commercial, then sort of retract that?
Just say what you mean.
Originally posted by Funkadelic
I mean really, have you listened 2 Around the world in a day, The rainbow children, parade (Xcept 4 kiss)?That's commercial music?
I own everything he's ever done. To suggest Prince isn't commercial is idiotic. Commercial doesn't necessarily mean you do everything to please everyone else. Prince has sold over a hundred million records or something, he's behind Mariah Carey, The Beatles, Stevie Wonder and Elton John ONLY when it comes to number one hits, you gonna tell me he's not commercial?
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
There are plenty of more able singers than Michael Jackson.If he's your favourite singer then fine, but he's not the best singer on a technical level.
I never said singer I said vocals. It's amazing the range of vocals MJ can reach from low to high where a (almost) all of singers stick to either one or the other. But when it comes down to straight up vocals I do consider MJ to be the best.
I still consider Joel to be the best singer.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
I never said singer I said vocals. It's amazing the range of vocals MJ can reach from low to high where a (almost) all of singers stick to either one or the other. But when it comes down to straight up vocals I do consider MJ to be the best.
You do not get to decide who is technically better than someone else, though. They either have more ability or they do not, and many have more skill and better technique than Jackson.
Whether or not you prefer his voice is irrelevant.
You wouldn't say the guy from Nickleback is a more skilled guitarist than Hendrix just because you liked what he played more than you like what Hendrix played.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
I still consider Joel to be the best singer.
In what way, though? You consider him to be the best that you like? As in, you enjoy his voice the most?
Or are you sincerely claiming you believe there to be no greater skilled singer than Billy Joel?
-AC
Originally posted by Reverend AxelSome Boy Group singers. You know, the stuff AC likes.
Who and Who?
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'd actually remove The Beatles. Just for the likely proof that they didn't really change as much music as people believe, and things probably wouldn't be much different if they hadn't been around, in my opinion.I like them, but just to see.
-AC
I'd do the same with Mike Patton...so...yeah...**** you.
Originally posted by chillmeistergenWas about to say that. Would be my change of choice too.
Oh, and on another note. I'd keep The Smiths together definitely, don't know how it slipped my mind before.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I'd do the same with Mike Patton...so...yeah...**** you.
I think personally that after so many generations, the relevance and presence of past influence gets less. So modern music would probably be more different if Patton was gone than The Beatles.
Further back, obviously The Beatles, as Patton wasn't as established.
Though whether either would be missed or not is never to be known, hence the point.
-AC
I don't think Patton was that influential. Sure he popularized a lot of experimental stuff, but he wasn't the first to really do it. Mr. Bungle is probably his most influential band, but Trey Spruance was the true genius of that band imo. His guitar style with that double diminished power chord he used pretty much created Korn and influenced many others. His side project Secret Chiefs 3 is pretty weird and groundbreaking.
Originally posted by Nellinator
I don't think Patton was that influential. Sure he popularized a lot of experimental stuff, but he wasn't the first to really do it. Mr. Bungle is probably his most influential band, but Trey Spruance was the true genius of that band imo. His guitar style with that double diminished power chord he used pretty much created Korn and influenced many others. His side project Secret Chiefs 3 is pretty weird and groundbreaking.
Nobody would say he's that influential because he really isn't credited as much as he should be, because his stuff isn't as well known as those who are influenced by him.
I'd say Faith No More were the most influential.
He was the first to actually do a lot of things he isn't credited for. System of a Down have long since been once of the world's most unique bands, that essentially comes from Serj, who more or less got his entire vocal style from an FNM song.
Angel Dust more or less spawned what would become alternative rock.
Not to mention that Patton has been doing this since he was no older than some of us, at such a high level.
Patton writes Fantomas on his own. Far more "weird" and groundbreaking than Secret Chiefs.
-AC