sure at their weakest forms and whats that RPG thing, it doesnt look canon anyway, but w/e, dark magic is dependable, which means none of Diablos powers are dark magic really, apart from the Red lightning hoze, but other than that his powers are elemental and so are the other brothers except maybe baals being burst
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Though Dante against Mephisto, Baal and Diablo at once won't probably be good to him since he isn't use to fight such high-level demonic beings in a bunch. One-to-one he'll probably take any of them.
Which is a little what I think, too.. I'm sure that both Ryu and Dante are highly effective demon hunters.. And I do consider Dante the greatest threat to the three Primes, but fighting all three at once isn't a good thing.. Especially since Diablo can cage him wherever he is.. He doens't even have to see his foe.. Just sense him.. The cage never misses, and since he can use it unlimited, he can do it over and over again.. Since he also never get tired, he can keep it going..
They are the rulers of hell for a reason.. Heaven had to send one of their best Angels to guard the prison of Baal.. Even though he was in a weak state, they needed an active arch angel, together with magical runes, the dark magic of the soulstone and an isolated magical place to keep him at place, while he is constantly being tortured by the runes.. Then Diablo, in his human and weakest form simply walked in and fought the angel heads up..
Diablo could parry the angelic blade with his plain arms without getting any wound, and that was in his human form..
I do believe that Dante could probably take one of the three down if it was a 1vs1 battle.. But together, they'd be too strong.. Especially since Baal can summon demons at will and without effort..
Even if Dante, Ryu and Alicia would match the demons in powers when it comes individually.. Facing the three would be too much to handle.. They wouldn't be able to keep track of everything that happens..
All three can flood with spells over and over again, for as long as it takes.. Baal can duplicate himself and both him and his copy can flood with spells.. Along with all the demons he summoned, that also can cast spells and fight..
The term "Hell has broken loose" would be very suitable to anyone facing these three..
Dante is titled "high demonic lord" and nowadays he's actually considered the strongest one in his universe (after putting down Mundus and Despair Embodied he has surpassed his legendary father).
Cage won't work probably because of Dante's ability of combat teleportation. He would last the longest against those three...but that's three high demonic lords versus one high demonic lord. Three vs one, that's just unfair (may be a little fairier if we count Dante's ability to summon totally invulnerable shadow copy of himself (that's what Assassin's Shadow Master should have been), but 2 vs three and a legion of demons is still bad thing.
So, shall we consider that a spite? Especially bad because it's anti-whitehaired spite, since poor Dante won't get any real help from Ryu and Alicia, as I can see. Except for beating summoned minions (though nobody of those lesser demons can harm Dante in his high demonic form, he'd be simply immune to their attacks), they can't do anything major there.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
So, shall we consider that a spite? Especially bad because it's anti-whitehaired spite, since poor Dante won't get any real help from Ryu and Alicia, as I can see. Except for beating summoned minions (though nobody of those lesser demons can harm Dante in his high demonic form, he'd be simply immune to their attacks), they can't do anything major there.
Yeah.. Lets do that.. This battle isn't fair at all..
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
The only thing that would be in Dante's favour there seems his time manipulation powers, I don't recall any of brothers being capable on that. That makes things just a little easier...
No, none of them can master time.. I haven't heard of Dante doing it either, though.. His time powers cant be to a large extent, if any..
He can slow down or totally stop time (Quicksilver style in DMC3, though in gameplay it only slows down time (enemies and other stuff move on 1/10 of its speed) and true timestop is shown to us only in cutscene; also that's possible with Chronoheart amulet from DMC2). Since his high demonic form (the red aura you can see when Dante awakens his high demonic nature before first fight with Mundus is the same that gameplaywise goes with unlockable costumes allowing unlimited DT) allows him to stay in DT for unlimited period of time, it has no time limits powersetwise, but has limited range- he can create that anomaly only in limited radius around him (something like 200 metres), but it moves together with him.
Meh, I beat Diablo 1 and 2 with ease... with each of the characters... if a guy can go up to diablo and beat him with just a sword and armor then these guys.. especially dante should have no problem either.
Hell, I started beating diablo for people just so they'd get the mark back in diablo one. And when I say with ease I mean I walked right up to him smacked him a few times and he went down...
And don't forget that that is the storyline of the games that the prime evils are beaten by the characters you choose to play in the game.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Meh, I beat Diablo 1 and 2 with ease... with each of the characters... if a guy can go up to diablo and beat him with just a sword and armor then these guys.. especially dante should have no problem either.Hell, I started beating diablo for people just so they'd get the mark back in diablo one. And when I say with ease I mean I walked right up to him smacked him a few times and he went down...
And don't forget that that is the storyline of the games that the prime evils are beaten by the characters you choose to play in the game.
Diablo isn't a tough game.. If it wasn't plot based, Baal would have splatted you the moment you put your foot into his chamber..
And if you can defeat Diablo with such a horrible ease, I want to see a recording of you killing Pandemonium Diablo.. Not kill with ease.. I just want to see you kill him.. A simple recording is all I ask for.. Your character.. Killing Pandemonium Diablo..
Originally posted by Darth ExtecuteSo.. plot wise he doesn't splatter you.. and game mechanics he doesn't splatter you... Therefore either way you look at it he doesn't splatter you.
Diablo isn't a tough game.. If it wasn't plot based, Baal would have splatted you the moment you put your foot into his chamber..
Originally posted by Darth ExtecuteWhat... you've never done it?
And if you can defeat Diablo with such a horrible ease, I want to see a recording of you killing Pandemonium Diablo.. Not kill with ease.. I just want to see you kill him.. A simple recording is all I ask for.. Your character.. Killing Pandemonium Diablo..
No wonder you're so dazzled by him.. you suck at the game.
Originally posted by Creshosk
So.. plot wise he doesn't splatter you.. and game mechanics he doesn't splatter you... Therefore either way you look at it he doesn't splatter you.What... you've never done it?
No wonder you're so dazzled by him.. you suck at the game.
Did I say I haven't done it? I'm not dazzled.. In fact, I'm very open-minded.. However, this is a loosing battle.. Just because he's not in your opinion considered good, doesn't mean he isn't..
If anyone is dazzled, it's you.. Your the one saying your having such an easy time with him.. Easy time with Pandemonium Diablo, my ass.. However, if you do have an easy time, its you that's dazzled by your good character.. He is powerful, like it or not..
And if you didn't pay attention, I kindly explained earlier that I consider the heroes of Diablo more powerful than, for example; Hayabusa..
He's not easy, it's the heroes that are good..
as for the splattering, he doesn't do it because it would mess the game up and you wouldn't be able to win.. But the KMC people here doesn't go by only in-game.. They go by things seen in movies, and sequences..
Originally posted by Darth ExtecuteRight, him not being "all that" is what makes him not "all that." Our opinions have no influence on him being weak.
Did I say I haven't done it? I'm not dazzled.. In fact, I'm very open-minded.. However, this is a loosing battle.. Just because he's not in your opinion considered good, doesn't mean he isn't.. [/b
Originally posted by Darth ExtecuteYou're the one who thinks he's so bad ass, and I'M the one who's dazzled?
[B]If anyone is dazzled, it's you..
That's called reaching right there. You're desperatly grasping at straws to keep from sinking. I'm not impressed by him and you obviously are:
Originally posted by Darth ExtecuteMeh, Just a regular human, nothing really special. No supernatural abilities really.
Your the one saying your having such an easy time with him.. Easy time with Pandemonium Diablo, my ass.. However, if you do have an easy time, its you that's dazzled by your good character.. He is powerful, like it or not..
So no, I'm not dazzled by either my character or Diablo.
Originally posted by Darth ExtecuteSee? You're the one who's dazzled.
And if you didn't pay attention, I kindly explained earlier that I consider the heroes of Diablo more powerful than, for example; Hayabusa..
Originally posted by Darth ExtecuteSo totally dazzled...
He's not easy, it's the heroes that are good..
Originally posted by Darth ExtecuteStill reaching... He doesn't do it story/plot wise. He didn't do it in the story.
as for the splattering, he doesn't do it because it would mess the game up and you wouldn't be able to win..
Therefore its not an instant splatter... You're still dazzled.
Originally posted by Darth ExtecuteYeah... Him not splattering you... You're totally dazzled by him...
But the KMC people here doesn't go by only in-game.. They go by things seen in movies, and sequences..
Who knows maybe its from my time playing as a shifter in another game that I see how weak these "demon lords" truly are. Yeah, you think they're powerful cause you're human, with human experiences and nothing more.
So bottom line you're totally dazzled by the characters, me? I'm not impressed.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
He can slow down or totally stop time (Quicksilver style in DMC3, though in gameplay it only slows down time (enemies and other stuff move on 1/10 of its speed) and true timestop is shown to us only in cutscene; also that's possible with Chronoheart amulet from DMC2). Since his high demonic form (the red aura you can see when Dante awakens his high demonic nature before first fight with Mundus is the same that gameplaywise goes with unlockable costumes allowing unlimited DT) allows him to stay in DT for unlimited period of time, it has no time limits powersetwise, but has limited range- he can create that anomaly only in limited radius around him (something like 200 metres), but it moves together with him.
Also the wonderful thing about it is that it's requires no spellcasting time, being activated with a speed of thought... it's natural ability gained by absorbing certain demonic souls, not a spell in its true sence.