Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Nope, he was like 1/3 of its size in his ending, and Hellstorm was shown to be near instant. EVERYTHING takes time, it take light time to go around the planet, not much time, but time nontheless.Also, I find it funny how Burining Thought says many DS characters like Jedah would be nothing without objects, but Kain wouldn't amount to Jedah's fecal matter without the Reaver.
false, the Reaver gives post Defiance Kain as close to omnipotence as a DS could ever dream of, however without it, he can still do half his spells, and all the spells he needs to take out these 3, ime not using one reaver spell when i deemed the task Kain needs to do, to destroy Jedah
Originally posted by Burning thoughtPyron potentially could have become the universe, which>>>entire Nosgoth.
false, the Reaver gives post Defiance Kain as close to omnipotence as a DS could ever dream of, however without it, he can still do half his spells, and all the spells he needs to take out these 3, ime not using one reaver spell when i deemed the task Kain needs to do, to destroy Jedah
Originally posted by Burning thought1. No Limit fallacy, you assume a mere planetary being(as in, there is no more to his entire verse than that one planet and a few even smaller or equally small dimensions) who can evolve past weaknesses will evolve beyond a universe. Wow.
and Kain could of potentially in a billion years evolved beyond mortal comprehension which>>Pyronbut what they can become, and what they have become is completly diffrent, and currently, Pyron is simply a sun sized lump of energy
2. And Kain is a shriveled up green vampire.
1. There is no limit to evolution, both in real life theory or in LOK fiction, also there is indeed more to his verse otherwise there would not be so many stars, so you fail again, LOK seems to be just as large as any other universe, only thing is like most fictions its story is based around a planet
and what do you mean evolve beyond a universe? a Universe is not an evolutionary status...so your crooked in all your logic
Originally posted by Burning thought1. No limit to evolution? So one day the entire universe will be filled with gods that can think Omniverses away? Shit, even if that is the case, Kain's pathetic race will be extinct by then.
1. There is no limit to evolution, both in real life theory or in LOK fiction, also there is indeed more to his verse otherwise there would not be so many stars, so you fail again, LOK seems to be just as large as any other universe, only thing is like most fictions its story is based around a planetand what do you mean evolve beyond a universe? a Universe is not an evolutionary status...so your crooked in all your logic
2. Pyron would have become one.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. No limit to evolution? So one day the entire universe will be filled with gods that can think Omniverses away? Shit, even if that is the case, Kain's pathetic race will be extinct by then.2. Pyron would have become one.
1. well basically that is very possible....then again evolution works on what you need so technically, so thinking away omniverses is not required however Kain seems to gain things he does not neccerily need like the rest of his vampireic sons, like Raziel who gained wings, as if he needs wings to survive. 😆 you say ime bias yet you bash the entire race which you seem to A: know very little about, and B: what the hell could make them extinct? Kain would just evolve forever, infact pathetic Pyron will more likely get his energy sucked down a blackhole
2. yes, simply a universe of energy instead of a sun of energy......but as i said, what he "could" have become is irrelevent
Originally posted by Burning thoughtI have no idea where you get yo ideas from despite the fact you don't know anything about DS.
feats like Jedah needs souls to make a dimension which was a limited dimension anyway, pyron needs to be fairly close to absorb planets and takes time to hit full speed, Demitri although powerful overall has no major power above durability due to his taking the Scalaphoton or whatever its called from Belial, a lot of us do know a fair amount of Darkstalkers, just not grand amounts, but then ime sure most of you guys and most on this forum know Jack on Kain yet it doesnt stop people trying to degrade him
1.Nothin says Jedah needs a soul to make a dimension. He needed a strong foundation ( Ozomus' soul ) to make a STRONG dimension to house the Absolute Existence (a creature wit all of Gods' creation crammed into it). Nothin says he needs a soul to make a regular realm.
Not to mention that Ozomu is a creature wit an extremly powerful soul seein as how he eats souls for a livin and even manage to consume what power Jedah left over after he was destroyed.
2.And that whole Pyron thing is BS. I've only seen him come close to a planet once to eat it, and let's not forget that he CAME OFF THAT PLANET. That chest beam was long and huge, he does not need to get close to eat it and the only reason he got close to earth is cuz he wanted to explore the creatures on it, mainly fight the DS.
Originally posted by Project Jedah
I have no idea where you get yo ideas from despite the fact you don't know anything about DS.1.Nothin says Jedah needs a soul to make a dimension. He needed a strong foundation ( Ozomus' soul ) to make a STRONG dimension to house the Absolute Existence (a creature wit all of Gods' creation crammed into it). Nothin says he needs a soul to make a regular realm.
Not to mention that Ozomu is a creature wit an extremly powerful soul seein as how he eats souls for a livin and even manage to consume what power Jedah left over after he was destroyed.
2.And that whole Pyron thing is BS. I've only seen him come close to a planet once to eat it, and let's not forget that he CAME OFF THAT PLANET. That chest beam was long and huge, he does not need to get close to eat it and the only reason he got close to earth is cuz he wanted to explore the creatures on it, mainly fight the DS.
I seem to know more on it than you do, or at least just as much, until you show me the proof for the "range" of pyrons beam and Jedah creating dimensions without souls.
1. so we just assume he can create regular realms? has he ever created a normal realm?
2. another bad post m8, what info can you show me saying Pyron does not have to get close to absorb a planet? he did it to Earth, he did it to his own, no planet to my knowledge has he ever taken from range, the beam is long? show me this please, huge perhaps, but it has never from what ive been shown gone from long range.
both of your points were along the lines of "hes not been said to have to do it so he doesnt have to" which is wrong, if a character has shown to be able to do a feat, then the parameters of that feat is its limit for example everytime ive seen Pyron absorb a planet, he is close, and every instance ive seen of Jedah creating a dimension, he uses a soul.