Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Okay. So she has an infinate power source. So do the Androids in DBZ, do they=KOSMOS? No. M. Bison's energy reserves is infinate, does he now=KOSMOS? No. There is a difference between having an infinate energy source, and being able to use it all in one shot, if that was true, Bison could destroy the Omniverse easily. I think that UDO probably has more control over his own power source than KOSMOS. Also, KOSMOS' TWS could destroy a planet at best by itself, it is a beam, not an explosive, or a concussive blast. I just don't like how it is hyped up to an actual feat, despite the fact that she didn't do it herself. Sorry if I offended you, I don't go into Respect threads and bash the character, unlike a certain someone.
I still don't really buy how you can safely make the claim it will only destroy a planet, but I won't try to convince you otherwise. This is just going around and around and its getting boring.
She didn't do it herself? What does she need to do for it to count? She stars in the video. She fires in less then 3 seconds. Blast meets U-do's blast a couple of galaxies blow up. Actual in-game stuff. Not profiles. Not bios. No out of this world assuming.
Double Standard anyone?
If you don't like the "blowing up universe" hype that is fine by me, but don't degrade it to merely being a planet busting feat, because the video clearly shows a couple of galaxies being blasted out of existence.
Fighting Over Ratio with Under Ratio ain't good in my honest opinion.
Originally posted by Superboy Prime1. Because it is a focused beam from the looks of it, and looks to only have enough size to incinerate a planet.
I still don't really buy how you can safely make the claim it will only destroy a planet, but I won't try to convince you otherwise. This is just going around and around and its getting boring.She didn't do it herself? What does she need to do for it to count? She stars in the video. She fires in less then 3 seconds. Blast meets U-do's blast a couple of galaxies blow up. Actual in-game stuff. Not profiles. Not bios. No out of this world assuming.
Double Standard anyone?
If you don't like the "blowing up universe" hype that is fine by me, but don't degrade it to merely being a planet busting feat, because the video clearly shows a couple of galaxies being blasted out of existence.
Fighting Over Ratio with Under Ratio ain't good in my honest opinion.
2. Because it wouldn't of happened if it didn't connect with his beam.
3. I don't like it.
Also, how much of the Zohar's power can she use in one shot?
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
V2D is trying to say that an energy beam does not cover enough area to destroy galaxy. Because the energy is too focused as a beam.
I get that. But what would happen if her blast met with one of random character's beam?
Something similar at the very least, don't you think? Or it would easily overpower it unless the random character actually had more power output.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Also, how much of the Zohar's power can she use in one shot?
No idea. But from the look of things she can use quite a lot since her Ver. 4 body interfaces directly with the Zohar.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
It would have to be a similarily powered beam.
Yes. otherwise the power of her beam would easily cut through whatever oposition it faced and actually nail its target with quite a force.
One more thing I wanted to point out is that Kos-Mos was in fact shooting the beam at a planet sized entity(U-do) That could explain the nature and size of her beam. Can she make it smaller or bigger? Quite possible given her energy manipulation skills. Am I claiming she can make Universe & Atom sized beams? No, but she might.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeYou totally misunderstood me. When proof was shown and exhibited for DS side, peeps ignored it, Jedah's energy consumption, his dimension destroying, Pyron's size among other things have already been shown, but peeps are still talkin about proof and I'm like what the ****? And what was crazy is when Who else? said "what proof do you need" ?, no one said anything or said that the proof already shown wasn't good enough. So people expect us to look at their proof and abide by it, hell no! That was my point.
Funny thing is the same could be said to all of us. If you like a character and you feel certain people are under rating a feat you are bound to defend it. Did you actually expect us to simply sitback and accept your claims, no matter how we simply shut them down time and time again?
I don't mean to ruin this thread, cuz I said I like and respect kosmos several times already, (I even own all the Xenosag games, my Playstion broke though) I never once insulted kosmos or said somethin bad about her. It's the fact that people are down playin some of my favorite characters to defend another. I don't think that's cool, yo.
Originally posted by Usual Suspect
You totally misunderstood me. When proof was shown and exhibited for DS side, peeps ignored it, Jedah's energy consumption, his dimension destroying, Pyron's size among other things have already been shown, but peeps are still talkin about proof and I'm like what the ****? And what was crazy is when Who else? said "what proof do you need" ?, no one said anything or said that the proof already shown wasn't good enough. So people expect us to look at their proof and abide by it, hell no! That was my point.I don't mean to ruin this thread, cuz I said I like and respect kosmos several times already, (I even own all the Xenosag games, my Playstion broke though) I never once insulted kosmos or said somethin bad about her. It's the fact that people are down playin some of my favorite characters to defend another. I don't think that's cool, yo.
no real proof of any of this has been shown, proof has been show but true evidence, i mean hell one bit of proof was supposedly a background to depict pyrons size 🙄 its proof, but is it good? not at all...
also wheres Jedahs energy comsumption shown, Souls have been shown, but energy?
😆 wtf? souls are not energy...their spiritual essence, its not like they are a force or substence.
where does it say the souls themselves have any greater power over being absorbed than the average human soul? it doesnt matter what the said being can do that dermines their soul, if your basing the power of a beings soul on the power of the being itself, then...watch the vid in my profile 😉
It's a cause of fans being dissatisfied about a character having feats that put them above their favored characters. They keep questioning despite after undeniable proof was posted out of fear.
Originally posted by SHMYeah, come on guys.
Thanks.And don't get me wrong guys, but I wouldn't like if I created a respect thread for a character, and some people entered it only to bash, or underestimate the character, or argue against the character's feats.
This is a thread to pay homage to her, come on!
Gear, you've came into Respect threads and outright bash the character, all we do is question her feats. Also, I think alot of FN's and Who else's info of DS comes from translations of the official source book of DS. Look at the Demitri and Pyron respect threads btw, the exact same things were done. Least I have never said someone can bust a universe by herself, despite the fact that her beam had to collide with another's to even do it, or when someone counts "threatening existence" as a quantifiable feat. I am loving the double standards. The Makai souls having 10 times more power than what is needed to bust a planet is from translations of the source book translations. Oh, and in DS, souls are made of energy I think.
I never counted threatening existence as a feat. If I have go quote me.
I said she can bust a universe since SBP elaborated on that in one of his posts that I quoted several times, but was apparently ignored.
Don't bring up anything relating to DS in here. I'm not wasting my time on that horseshit. Secondly it has nothing to do with my topic.
Originally posted by shin_gear1. Sorry, that was Sado.
I never counted threatening existence as a feat. If I have go quote me.I said she can bust a universe since SBP elaborated on that in one of his posts that I quoted several times, but was apparently ignored.
Don't bring up anything relating to DS in here. I'm not wasting my time on that horseshit. Secondly it has nothing to do with my topic.
2. SBP was wrong.
3. Kay. I just mentioned it cause you dismiss alot of info they bring up about it.
Originally posted by shin_gearSBP was wrong. She cannot bust a universe on her own power, TWS is a beam(and appears to also be a fairly slow one), it collided with a similarily powered beam, and that is what caused the explosion. It would have to collide with something of similar power to do that, SBP even admitted this. Also, when you are the one who goes into Respect threads and has bashed the character unprovoked, what I did isn't that bad. 😉
That's not an excuse for mentioning it here. Secondly it isn't rare that you accuse people of being wrong every now and then.
It's pretty surprising you never thought of the obvious fact she could destroy around half of that which was destroyed with her attack. Were you logical enough to think that by shooting the planet U-DO shot it's beam from around half as much that was destroyed would've been destroyed by KOS-MOS? You also do realize that she doesn't have to bust a universe in battles with her attack?
If not then you're not so satsified of KOS-MOS having that capability.
Also, read
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeThat doesn't compare with what she can do with the Tertiary Weapon System.
For starters KOS-MOS can vaporize an entire solar system with the Phase Transfer Canon which is a part of her equipment in her version 4 body.
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
FYI Kos-Mos interfaces directly with the Zohar. The ultimate energy device in the Xenosagaverse. A Zohar Emulator was enough to absorb planets. Please tell me you're capable of realizing what she can do with the real Zohar.