I don't see any reason why I should get banned, I'm breaking no rules.
Well, that hasn't mattered before, so you may be right, Dev.
Originally posted by Kelly_Bean
Wouldn't be the first time.
I know. The first time was when I complimented you in a picture, you launched an assault comparable to the Coalition of the Willing (And just as pointless), to which I asked for an apology, repeatedly and civilly. I was a very bad boy.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
If you can't do a job properly and fairly, without bias, don't take the job. I think that seems like a fair request.I think it's only right that mods be consistent, and not all of them are. They'll make a decision one day, based on nothing, then let a million other things slide because it suits them to. Gone are the days when this was viewed as paranoia coming from myself and a few others, it's actually evident to the point that mods recognise it.
If you are doing to ban one person for doing something, ban everyone who does it, with no exception.
That's one issue, the other is as I said, bias.
-AC
Originally posted by StormCertainly a factor...but it is pretty apparent that there is some bias.
There is yet another factor, a member' s "record of offences". When a ban is issued, not only the violation itself is decisive but also previous warnings and bans are taken into account. An, at first sight, minor violation can cause a ban for a member with a history of warnings and/or previous bans, while a more severe violation can result in only a warning when the member has no history at all. That' s not bias, but the policy as set out by Raz.
Originally posted by Storm
There is yet another factor, a member' s "record of offences". When a ban is issued, not only the violation itself is decisive but also previous warnings and bans are taken into account. An, at first sight, minor violation can cause a ban for a member with a history of warnings and/or previous bans, while a more severe violation can result in only a warning when the member has no history at all. That' s not bias, but the policy as set out by Raz.
That's exactly why it's crucial to stop mods operating on bias and working with inconsistency, because whether a ban is just or unjust, it shows up as a recorded ban. Many, MANY people here have at least one ban to their name that was absolutely unjustified.
The one put into play mostly is "You can't ignore a mod warning.", which is a fair point, but when some mods around here will warn you for simply countering their debate in a manner they dislike, or simply because they have an issue based on bias, how is anyone supposed to avoid that? Honestly?
It's like if something gets too hot for a mod, or they simply don't like you enough to resolve the situation privately, they use the "If you don't do as I say right now, you'll be warned or banned.", regardless of what it is. Not to mention that when mods enter a thread to "calm" or "settle" a heated situation, some of them tend to have a rather unnecessary air of "I have power, I can do whatever I want, regardless." about their actions and words. I have been criticised for being condescending more than once, but to do so because you feel the position of "power" allows it, that's bs.
If you aren't infallible, then you shouldn't suggest every decision be final. If a decision is made and enough contrary evidence is presented to suggest it was the wrong one, retractions should be optional, but they aren't.
It's all a mess of contradiction and agenda.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Do you enjoy stealing my spotlight, Rob? Really? I won't tolerate this.I'm through, if you need me I'll be in my trailer.
On a serious note, if half the people who agreed with me privately had come forward, we might see some change by now.
-AC
It's what I do. Like you have a choice.
I've left fresh razor blades and a copy of "Do you really want to hurt me", by Boy George, in there for you.
You keep going on about this "people who PM" business, I fear it's merely a construct of your imagination. Why don't you run for MOD, he'll, I'll vote for you, for shits and giggles.
Originally posted by Robtard
It's what I do. Like you have a choice.I've left fresh razor blades and a copy of "Do you really want to hurt me", by Boy George, in there for you.
You keep going on about this "people who PM" business, I fear it's merely a construct of your imagination. Why don't you run for MOD, he'll, I'll vote for you, for shits and giggles.
That's very considerate of you. Really, touched.
Technically it's not strictly PM, but other such places of communication. I've no reason to lie about it, if I was ever asked to name the people and what they've said, I'd do so, but it's apparantly the "done" thing to not speak about each other in public, mod thing.
I don't want to be a mod, I'm honestly not interested or unbiased enough to be one, but I recognise this. Though with your encouragement, I...I think I can do it. I...I think I can, Rob. I believe.
-AC
Re: Re: Re: Why do we let one or two posters ruin the forum?
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Seems like honesty and recitation of facts actually . . .
Right, it is honesty. And yes, it's important to repeat the facts of what someone is doing, esp. when they are pushing u down to lift themselves up. I hope you aren't confusing this with empathy or telepathy or any spiritual gifts. If you are, you don't really know what those terms mean.
You have to tell a person that you recognize what they are doing, esp. if it's negative. It's up to them to reflect, not I. I'm not the one putting an individual down to lift myself up.
Originally posted by Czarina_CzarinaYou just did it...you liar.
Right, it is honesty. And yes, it's important to repeat the facts of what someone is doing, esp. when they are pushing u down to lift themselves up. I hope you aren't confusing this with empathy or telepathy or any spiritual gifts. If you are, you don't really know what those terms mean.You have to tell a person that you recognize what they are doing, esp. if it's negative. It's up to them to reflect, not I. I'm not the one putting an individual down to lift myself up.