Bowling for COlumbine

Has anyone seen this yet? I'd perfer to discuss with people who havent been brainwashed by Michael Moore. (but then again, maybe it would be fun to shake up their world.)

I hear it's suppose to be good.

I've never seen a Michael Moore movie.

it looks interesting.

Yeah I saw it...liked it too..what's your problem with it?

what is it about

Guns in America

Actually alot of it is pretty funny.

It basically ask why does the US have more gun-related violence than other countries.

Michael Moore is great.

I thought that the movie was completely biased and nonsensical. Moore just bullies his way into making people who disagree with him look bad. The kind of opposing views he gets come from the people who are so dumb they agree to speak to him - so of course they look foolish. He also takes them by surprise, so they have no time to reason an argument to present (a lot of pressure with a camera in your face). He also takes one or two people and presents them as representative of a community or nation, when there is no justification to do so.

The Best Documentary prize ought to go to something that is done in the spirit of spreading knowledge, and something unbiased, not a propaganda film.

they made a movie about why US have a larger rate than other countries of gun realted violence. Sounds like a dokumentary

it is. made by some fat guy.

Originally posted by scottkimbal
I thought that the movie was completely biased and nonsensical. Moore just bullies his way into making people who disagree with him look bad. The kind of opposing views he gets come from the people who are so dumb they agree to speak to him - so of course they look foolish. He also takes them by surprise, so they have no time to reason an argument to present (a lot of pressure with a camera in your face). He also takes one or two people and presents them as representative of a community or nation, when there is no justification to do so.

The Best Documentary prize ought to go to something that is done in the spirit of spreading knowledge, and something unbiased, not a propaganda film.

sounds like you're the biased one here

You could always try coming up with points to counter his rather than just rubbishing his well-received presentation.

but what fun is that?

okay...

How come he doesnt include Russia in his tally of national murders?

What does earning a living have to do with gun deaths? What does military action have to do with gun deaths? What does Lockheed-Martin have to do with the Columbine Massacre? He needs to get his cause and effects straight.

Does he expect us to believe that all Canadians leave their doors unlocked?

So maybe I didnt bring any counter-points to his points but the above mentioned stuff bothered me.

The first is irrelevant. The second, third and fourth is because he uses the gun control issue as a starting point for delving into American culture and hence American foreign policy, which is where the film becomes more subjective than analytical but the cause and effect chain is fine.

The fifth I was not aware was an impression he had made. What he cartainly had made was that the only practical explanation for the gun rate difference in American as compared to Canada is cultural.

*sigh* I'd explain it but you're not gonna get it...because you don't wanna get it.. Maybe you should go watch the film again.

Bowling for Columbine was great! It just goes to show how F***** up you Americans are!

Yep we are...better be nice or we might sic George Dubbaya on you. 😛