Respect Pyron, Eater of Worlds

No no, he went to Earth before human life evolved, saw potential, and created the Phobos to inform him when this potential was reached.

He proceeded to go conquer planets and go to the furthest reaches of the universe, this happening over a span of millions of years.

He then was given a signal from the Phobos that Earth was ready, and proceeded to shoot back to Earth. That is what happened 3 years ago.

Exactly. . .

And about the IT stuff and FTL being useless, Pyron also teleports and no, it aint that type of debate. No need to bring RL physics into this, altho, it would be mad fun.

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo

I would like to see these scans that state/illustrate this. I also find this claim hard to believe since Pyron in his truest form, has no body to form a fetal position.

I dont know of his "truest form", I only know one form of Pyron and what ime talking about is on page 1 of the thread. A giant, glowing entity, or a smal entity if he chooses to fight on the world. If thats no longer canon then ive been duped. Not to mension Pyron does teleport so one cannot purely assume speed allowed him to travel these distances.

Also wheres the scan that says he got from wherever he was in the universe (not sure its said, for all we know he could be close by celestial standards) in 3 years?

Also not sure this "universe" is the same as ours, ours is still expanding and gets bigger all the time, an actual edge is not necesserily clear. If there is a specific edge to the universe in DS, then it may be smaller if it never expanded.

Hmmm.....makes sense now.

Originally posted by Burning thought
I dont know of his "truest form", I only know one form of Pyron and what ime talking about is on page 1 of the thread. A giant, glowing entity, or a smal entity if he chooses to fight on the world. If thats no longer canon then ive been duped. Not to mension Pyron [b]does teleport so one cannot purely assume speed allowed him to travel these distances.

Also wheres the scan that says he got from wherever he was in the universe (not sure its said, for all we know he could be close by celestial standards) in 3 years?

Also not sure this "universe" is the same as ours, ours is still expanding and gets bigger all the time, an actual edge is not necesserily clear. If there is a specific edge to the universe in DS, then it may be smaller if it never expanded. [/B]

Well then, you have been "duped". What you see in the scan are his lesser forms. His true form cannot be seen and is MUCH more massive. Pyron was in deep space and it took him 3 years to get back to Earth from where he was. Teleportation is instant......he did not teleport. I don't know why, it would have made sense to do so. One can only speculate.

.......Click some of the links in the thread....... It states he raced to the furthest limits of the universe. The next time we see Pyron, he's stated to be "somewhere in the universe", he then leaves to Earth and returns in 3 years. To assume where Pyron was after he is stated to have reached the universe's furthest corners, is just speculation, nor would it matter.

That is true, our universe is expanding, thus the edge is never in the same place, since DS his stated to take place in our world, we should assume that their universe is expanding there as well, to assume other wise would just be speculation. However, when you move at a speed FAR faster than the universe can expand, which Pyron does, you can sit at the edge and sip tea as you ride it out like a wave. The calced speed of Pyron's travel makes the speed of expansion look like a snail. The universe is where it is only after 15 billion years. That's a long time to get this big, and considering that the universe's expanse is believed by many physicist to be slowing to an eventual stop and hopefully not a rebound, that only makes the expansion less impressive "in this regard".

Well thats the form of Pyron I know and from the scans thats the only form they mension, where did this "true form" of Pyron come from? are there no scans of that?

Well it would matter, since if he was fairly close as I said it may only take a few years, we just dont know therefore cannot scale it as impressive or not. Considering his measurements are in years.

Well "our world" is a rough term, our world doesnt have demons and various are strange races living on it. Also whats the scale of pyrons speed from?

Pyron's true form is a massive incorporeal (Literally, as in also invisible) presence.

Wheres that come from? In all the times ive seen him debated, a massive incorporeal presence never came up and afaik, a new Dark stalkers game did not come out recently?

Uh, that was brought to light when No End purchased the Graphic File for Darkstalkers, and provided scans.

Oh aye I remember, where are they in this thread then?

This is the scan in question.

Oh right, he has an oribtal path around him, he still sounds like the Pyron we all know and love. And this confirms his speed as "faster than light", so about 300 mil m/s.

Do we know this source is actually canon?

The source is canon, it's a source book. It virtually corroborates most of the Faq at Gamefaqs.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Well thats the form of Pyron I know and from the scans thats the only form they mension, where did this "true form" of Pyron come from? are there no scans of that?

Well it would matter, since if he was fairly close as I said it may only take a few years, we just dont know therefore cannot scale it as impressive or not. Considering his measurements are in years.

Well "our world" is a rough term, our world doesnt have demons and various are strange races living on it. Also whats the scale of pyrons speed from?

Already stated by Neme. If you want to know where the scans of that are, you have to ask No End. I don't remember.

No it wouldn't matter. We know he went to the furthest edges and made it back to Earth, even if it takes 15 billion years (the entire life of the universe, which is impossible) to get back to Earth, he is still massively FTL, beyond an uncountable integer. Also the scan states he went to the furthest edges, since nothing else is stated beyond that, we are to assume that Pyron is still at or near its limits. To assume he is somewhere else, would simply be speculation. Since the story does not state he was somewhere else.

It is work of fiction, besides demons, extra terrestrials, and few fictional planets; we are to assume it's the same size, anything else, would be speculatory. Click the link Neme posted, a page back for the calc.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Oh right, he has an oribtal path around him, he still sounds like the Pyron we all know and love. And this confirms his speed as "faster than light", so about 300 mil m/s.

Do we know this source is actually canon?

I would say so, the Graphic File was made with the express purpose of elaborating on the Darkstalkers characters and setting.

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
The source is canon, it's a source book. It virtually corroborates most of the Faq at Gamefaqs.

Already stated by Neme. If you want to know where the scans of that are, you have to ask No End. I don't remember.

No it wouldn't matter. We know he went to the furthest edges and made it back to Earth, even if it takes 15 billion years (the entire life of the universe, which is impossible) to get back to Earth, he is still massively FTL, beyond an uncountable integer. Also the scan states he went to the furthest edges, since nothing else is stated beyond that, we are to assume that Pyron is still at or near its limits. To assume he is somewhere else, is speculation. Since the story does not state he was somewhere else.

It is work of fiction, besides demons, extra terrestrials, and few fictional planets; we are to assume it's the same size, anything else, would be speculator. Click the link Neme posted, a page back for the calc.

Well that calc assumes he was the edge when he was called, the scan itself simply says "somewhere", we cant assume, although this sourcebook confirms he is FTL, not necesserily more than twice that speed. its all fairly ambigious.

Also is this sourcebook known by the devs, did they make it or someone they paid?

Originally posted by Burning thought
Well that calc assumes he was the edge when he was called, the scan itself simply says "somewhere", we cant assume, although this sourcebook confirms he is FTL, not necesserily more than twice that speed. its all fairly ambigious.

Also is this sourcebook known by the devs, did they make it or someone they paid?

"Somewhere" is indeed vague, but not when you are stated to have already made it to the edges. "Somewhere" means, somewhere near the edges. You have to use common sense, and include both locations, not just one. If someone told you I went to Japan and I later said I was "somewhere" on Earth. Logic dictates that I am "somewhere" in Japan.

The devs and artist of the series created the book.

Well not necesserily, since as i said we dont really know the far edge, we also know hes FTL but this source does not state much more than that. Also, apprently he traveled the universe for millionso f years, so thats not to assume he spent 10 million just to get to the edge which is unkown.

All these things are very ambigious. Theres also the fact that could be hyperbole, "furthest limits" sounds like the old phrase "ill travel to the ends of the earth" when there are none.

Also shame there are not more scans of this, it seems a lot of the book mensions things not said before, from Pyrons different form to the fact he mensions fish in teh water on earth in this one.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Well not necesserily, since as i said we dont really know the far edge, we also know hes FTL but this source does not state much more than that. Also, apprently he traveled the universe for millionso f years, so thats not to assume he spent 10 million just to get to the edge which is unkown.

All these things are very ambigious. Theres also the fact that could be hyperbole, "furthest limits" sounds like the old phrase "ill travel to the ends of the earth" when there are none.

Also shame there are not more scans of this, it seems a lot of the book mensions things not said before, from Pyrons different form to the fact he mensions fish in teh water on earth in this one.

We don't need to know where exactly the far edge is, we don't know that in real life, all we can do is estimate. All we need to know is, he went there, and it's the furthest of all destinations in the entirety of the universe.

Going to the "furthest limits of the universe", given the character, doesn't sound "ambiguois" at all. I've never heard the phrase "furthest limits of the universe", sounds quite literal. If Pyron had not explored the entirety of the universe, he would have no need to baby sit Earth, because there would always be more to explore.

I just contacted No End and asked him to post more scans.

Due to the old comics, he liked the Earth especially though.

Yes, and that indication comes directly after they state, "he traveled to the universe's furthest limits and destroyed countless planets, but none were like the Earth". Clearly, Earth was the end of his journey.

Well it had to be, thats where he was destroyed/absorbed by Demitri no?

How big do you belive Pyron to be? if you belive hes as big as the orbit of planets, and assume the planets are their orignal size, or that Pyron himself is lightyears in span, then him at that size, moving at lightspeed probably wouldnt take long until a part of him touches the "known" universes edge.

Also, during the 10 mil years, we dont know if he teleported at any point, considering he can. Meaning it would cut his journey up, depending on how far he can percieve.