WhiteWitchKing
Senior Member
Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]superman wouldnt just stomp orion or hal but would soundly defeat them both for a sold majority.
So wait. He'd have a solid majority? Against these guys? LOL. What about Bill, Quasar, and Thor? He would stomp them but would soundly defeat them as well, right?
And any one of these guys against the surperiors like Ganthet or Highfather would be a stomping. You think Hal would even come pull a few wins against Ganthet if they fought? Or Orion against Highfather?
ds's stock has fallen in the past ten years. kirby wrote him as being more powerful but dc owns him and can do what they want to him. superman doesnt beat ds every time but has kicked his ass on more than one occasion. just accept it.
So would you conclude the same if Superman fought Highfather?
ds isnt that imprressive when the fight boils down to hand to hand combat.
Er...if you agree that he isn't impressive at hand to hand, then a more competantly written DS should mop the floor with Supes. But he's not written that way against Superman now is he?
usually when thor,quasar,and the surfer had beaten more powerful villains or what not there have been plot devices in place to show how and why that can happen.see the diff.
Then how do you explain Thor knocking down a Celestial when three skyfathers couldn't even dent one? How about explaining Thor escaping Demogorge when half a dozen hell lords couldn't? Rookie Quasar beat down a Watcher, care to explain that one?
ps there was no plot device when superman beat darkseids ass in apokolips now. it was one on one and darkseid looked bad.
Except he used mostly hand to hand against Supes. You really think Supes would beat Highfather?