Yahweh(DC) vs. The Living Tribunal
Yes, the Presence(yahweh)vs. the LT.
Although not much is seen of Yahweh, he is responsible for the twins Michael and Lucifer. In that case he must be really ****ing powerful (needless to say).God versus the multiverses judge.
The victor is pretty obvious in my opinion. Hmmm.
Re: Yahweh(DC) vs. The Living Tribunal
Originally posted by Lord Shaper
Yes, the Presence(yahweh)vs. the LT.Although not much is seen of Yahweh, he is responsible for the twins Michael and Lucifer. In that case he must be really ****ing powerful (needless to say).God versus the multiverses judge.
The victor is pretty obvious in my opinion. Hmmm.
Yes it is so why ???????????
Re: Yahweh(DC) vs. The Living Tribunal
Originally posted by Lord Shaperwhy would u create a thread like this.
Yes, the Presence(yahweh)vs. the LT.Although not much is seen of Yahweh, he is responsible for the twins Michael and Lucifer. In that case he must be really ****ing powerful (needless to say).God versus the multiverses judge.
The victor is pretty obvious in my opinion. Hmmm.
Originally posted by Lord Shaper
Are you speaking of the forces which created Yahweh?
The external forces are supose to be a bit like The-One-Above-All, never shown, or explained, so his omnipotence don't get flawed in any way.
Because God in the Bible is terribly flawed.
You mean Yahweh from Vertigo then? That story has no bearing on DC. It's pretty evident if you've actually bothered to read it. Plus there's the fact that both of the companies don't even acknowledge eachother anymore.
Then I'll point out how ambiguous the statement is, first off, it is NEVER said that there is force SUPERIOR or ABOVE him, as you've tried to explain away above. Only that he is shaped by other forces. Anything else is just extrapolation. It could be intended or taken any number of ways. However, we know from previous encounters and even that issue, that Yahweh is beyond all and has never shown a limit. He is eternal, and infinite. He is the sum, the result, the creator of all.
On the other hand when we saw Kirby in Fantastic Four, his image was shaped their perception[by external forces?]. And pretty much the whole image/scene displayed nothing but flaws and lack of omnipotence/omniscience, on a level that is not even comparable to Yahweh or Yahweh's 'plan'. And that's not even touching on the gaping holes in 'The End' storyline.
Originally posted by Juntai
[B]You mean Yahweh from Vertigo then? That story has no bearing on DC. It's pretty evident if you've actually bothered to read it. Plus there's the fact that both of the companies don't even acknowledge eachother anymore.
Then I'll point out how ambiguous the statement is, first off, it is NEVER said that there is force SUPERIOR or ABOVE him, as you've tried to explain away above. Only that he is shaped by other forces. Anything else is just extrapolation. It could be intended or taken any number of ways. However, we know from previous encounters and even that issue, that Yahweh is beyond all and has never shown a limit. He is eternal, and infinite. He is the sum, the result, the creator of all.
On the other hand when we saw Kirby in Fantastic Four, his image was shaped their perception[by external forces?]. And pretty much the whole image/scene displayed nothing but flaws and lack of omnipotence/omniscience, on a level that is not even comparable to Yahweh or Yahweh's 'plan'. And that's not even touching on the gaping holes in 'The End' storyline.
Originally posted by AstnerWould that mean that Marvel is part of DC too, since Dream and Death have appeared in their stories as well?
Doesn't matter, Vertigo is a part of DC - Since Delerium have appeared in the DC universe as well.What else can 'forces external to even that of my own' mean?
Accept the fact, unless you have a scan confirming that he's an aspect or whatever.Maybe it was a part of 'his plan' to have a civil conversation.
I don't have to prove that the forces weren't GREATER, because I wasn't the one extrapolating. You need to prove they are.
Yahweh still showed much less flaws than Marvel's God.
This is a really simple fight. The LT has never created or destroyed anything on panel to my knowlege. Michael and Lucifer have. And they are less than Yahweh. The LT didn't have the will or power to fix a universal flaw in the end. Thus he has no chance in hell against the supreme being of vertigo.