Archimonde, Ayane, Hayabusa Vs. Raziel, Kratos, Dante

hmm very difficult...

Archimonde cannot become skyscraper sized so easily, the story goes is that Archimonde was gaining energy from the world tree which is why in the game cutscene he becomes enormous and the reason he could destroy Dalaren so easily is according to that it was built upon powerful leylines that Archimonde had great power over

however he has incredible endurance, and as Darth said can blast the body of enemies sending them inside out..however...Raziel can become spectoral at will and still has the power of the reaver...Archimonde could be stopped also eventually by Dante using Quicksilver, the time will slow down so Archimonde would be very slow and Dante could use his various powers and abilities

Hayabusa and Ayane will simply be Raziel food...

Kratos, well this depends, God kratos would be formidable, normal kratos with Titan powers would also be fairly formidable, what items does he get?

Archimonde can shift size without larger problems.. He share this power with Kil'Jaeden.. And about Raziel, he can simply open up by turning the man inside out.. Sure, he might not die, but he'll have no physical body to fight with.. As for the time spell, what point would there be? What can Dante possibly do to harm him?

Dante has some pretty powerful attacks, is his full sparda form available? thats incredibly damaging, and Raziel being turned inside out would simply make him spectoral, he would only have to swallow souls to change back..OR Raziel can go invisible which may be able to fool Archimonde, although who knows. Archimondes power is great, but he could not solo these 3 for sure, Dante would be the strongest element here i think. Raziel has invulerability, but the likelyness he will be able to get close enough to Archimonde to deal any soul damage is unlikely, unless he reforms with a soul right on top of the guy

Archimonde has vast telepathical and telekentical powers.. He'd sense Raziel approaching and simply back away.. He could keep a distance and fight them of that way.. With his height, they wont be able to chase him, and he can simply launch projectiles at them, and summon armies to fight them in his place..

Archimonde destroyed Dalaran without breaking a sweat, as I said earlier.. That's proof of horribly large quantities of magical powers.. He also crushed a dragon with telekenetical powers, by simply closing his fists and the dragon was nothing but pieces.. He didn't even touch it, nor projectile anything.. It was a simple grasp with his hand.. Even if Dante is protected against demon magic, that isn't considered demon magic.. It's simple.. magic.. arcane, physical and mind magic in a beautiful mix..

I've posted some fo Super Sparda form in action *a video from RT*. Dante's high demonic lord, actually the strongest demon in his universe and in his high demonic form (Super Sparda form) he's pretty much invulnerable (not even boss characters can harm him in that form).

i agree now, Raziel wont be able to sneak up on him in shroud, but the spectoral realm would be invsible to Archimonde for sure, he could reform behind him, then continue to fight. Any armies Archimonde summons will further empower raziel ofcourse.

yes but it took him a lot of prep to destroy Dalaren like that, not to menstion he wont have that in this battle and yes destroying that dragon is a feet of great power, i cant see Kratos or Dante getting past a feet of that magnitude

also DeBel that is gameplay, i think this debate is on the actually characters for canon

Archimonde is considered being unharmable at all time, by all magic and physical attacks.. Blizzard gave him divine armor, which basicly reduces his damage taken by all attacks by 95-99%

He is also self-regenerating.. He can go from almost no health to 100% healed in the matter of minutes, if not even within the minute..

Not even Malorne, Elune's lover could do any harm to him, and he's the strongest being in the warcraft universe that isn't a God or a titan..

The only known way to kill Archimonde was by force of nature, and since Malorne is the most powerful druid that isn't God nor Titan in the history of Warcraft, and he couldnt inflict damage on Archimonde, I'd say that these three are pretty screwed..

can you post me the link please to this information, divine armour sounds like the gameplay term, also another note is that hes never had his soul attacked before, its bound to hurt him like any other since soul devouring is not magic.

Divine armour is the gameplay term.. It's seen in the final RoC level.. So what?

And of course it's magical.. It's not a natural thing.. That makes it magical.. His enchanted blade.. Enchanting meaning magicaly gifted.. And I'm guessing that he'd first of all have to penetrate the skin to reach the actual soul.. Have fun trying to do that without Archimonde noticing..

Originally posted by Burning thought
can you post me the link please to this information, divine armour sounds like the gameplay term, also another note is that hes never had his soul attacked before, its bound to hurt him like any other since soul devouring is not magic.

Originally From WoW Wiki
One of the most powerful being ever to walk the world of Azeroth. His powers are further magnified and enhanced when Sargeras turned him into a warlock.

He is shown to have the following abilities:

Spells of devastating potency. (Single handled destruction of Dalaran)

Vast telepathic powers. (Shown when he communed with ALL the Nathezim and eredar on the battlefield at War of the Ancient to deal with the oncoming dragons)

Vast telekinetic powers. (Able to kill a full grown dragon with a single act of grasping hand)

Vast strategic mind. (Commanded the Legion to victory over countless worlds)

Certain portion of omniscient as shown when he knew what was the source of power for Azeroth and by what name to call it. (Referring to Nordrassil, the World Tree)

Near invulnerability to attacks (represented by divine armor in Warcraft III and Malorne's inability to hurt Archimonde despite being the most powerful of the demigod in War of the Ancients).

The Divine armor thing is merely to represent the magical force to sheilds his body, much like the mana shield power.

Now i'm gonig for dinner, be a good boy now

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
Divine armour is the gameplay term.. It's seen in the final RoC level.. So what?

And of course it's magical.. It's not a natural thing.. That makes it magical.. His enchanted blade.. Enchanting meaning magicaly gifted.. And I'm guessing that he'd first of all have to penetrate the skin to reach the actual soul.. Have fun trying to do that without Archimonde noticing..

if its from gameplay then its stats are suspect since numbers and such mean nothing, Divine armor can only be harmed by Chaos attacks, which makes no sense since i wouldnt class the spirits of the earth as Chaos..

it does not have to be magical...it could simply be a state of being, an ability that is non-magical, magic is like a force by itself

Originally posted by Burning thought
if its from gameplay then its stats are suspect since numbers and such mean nothing, Divine armor can only be harmed by Chaos attacks, which makes no sense since i wouldnt class the spirits of the earth as Chaos..

it does not have to be magical...it could simply be a state of being, an ability that is non-magical, magic is like a force by itself

Did you see any chaos heroes in the final level? Blizzard thought about that, because he isn't harmable.. He is supposed to be as good as invournable, but I dont think they wanted to make an entirely new armortype just for that.. Same as they didn't make a new skin for Illidan until TFT..

There's more to a story than the eye meets, and especially in games like Warcraft..

In-game, Archimonde only had 4 spells.. That's not the true Archimonde..

The Archimonde spoken of in lore could battle armies, demi-Gods and titans without dying.. They had to imprison him in the twisting nether, because he wouldn't die..

By taking his soul doesn't mean he dies.. If he even can drain his soul.. We dont even know if Archimonde has a soul.. There are creatures in the Warcraft universe that doesnt..

O.O...Sounds like Marvel has been creating characters for these peoples universes.

Originally posted by Csdabest
O.O...Sounds like Marvel has been creating characters for these peoples universes.

No 😛 You wont see many planet busting characters in Warcraft.. I'm sure that a number of them could if they wanted to, but they never have.. These people prefere conquering the world, instead of destroying it..

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
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[b]Last time I involve Warcraft characters in my fights 🙄 [/B]

Unkillable my ass... None of those whom took Archimonde down was a god...

I'm a Blizzard fanboy...🙁

Originally posted by shin_gear
I'm a Blizzard fanboy...🙁

A reasonable one. I think Assasin from Diablo 2 is sexy with nice legs and stuff, but that doesn't makes me a Blizzard fangirl.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I wouldn't worry about the blizzard fanboys..

Unkillable my ass... None of those whom took Archimonde down was a god...

This is why I didn't take you serious in the prime evil thread either..

You dont know much about the things you discuss about..

This is words by blizzard:

The Burning Crusade expansion opens the Caverns of Time to players, and the crowning event of the instance is the attempt to ensure that the Battle of Mount Hyjal goes as planned. Archimonde is an un-killable raid boss, but players fight Archimonde's army of undead and demons until the final moments of the battle.

Archimonde is defeated by plot.. You doesn't actually battle him to the end and kill him..

After a while in the battle, Archimonde will stop battleing ((By plot)) and return to the world-tree.. Thereafter a powerful priestess will buff you with a blessing of the Gods, and you finish the fight plot-wise, like he would have died in Lore.. While trying to corrupt the world-tree..

In Warcraft 3, in-game he is a lot better than he appears in WoW.. He could simply turn heroes that would crush those WoW players, inside out with a lift of a finger.. Since there's no limitations set to the actual battle, I'm going from the idea that he is at his prime..

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
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He's pretty much killed, so as I said before unkillable my ass.

Originally posted by Creshosk
What do I care fanboy?

He's pretty much killed, so as I said before unkillable my ass.

you take WoW events seriously and canon? especially in-game?....riigghhttt..