Originally posted by quanchi112
how he cant take theri powers form them?thanos is greater than ds and ds had the power to kill his father.
im stating what was said in a comic about ds being able to kill his father.
read the comic and ull know i dont lie.
one problem i see with your theory is you say thanos is greater than darkseid which isnt true in the least
Originally posted by starkingno supes shouldnt be able to defeat yuga,unless hes as weak as ds in hand to hand. i doubt it but dont really know,. i owuld say yuga definitely defeats superman with what i know as he doesnt have the shortcomings that ds has.
Tell me this Quan, since you say Ds had the power to take out Yuga and your always ranting on how Superman punked Ds, do you think Supes could stand up to Yuga Khan?
ps the reason ds did nothing to his father is becuz he couldnt overcome the patricide clause that orion will one day and that hes afraid of his father.
Originally posted by quanchi112So if the power gap between Yuga and Seid isn't that big, then how the hell would Supes physical prowess factor in? Even if Yuga Khan was weaker than Supes in the strength department, none of that should matter, seeing how his tremendous level of power could wipe Superman out, like poop on a butthole. Do you not see the flaw in your logic?
no supes shouldnt be able to defeat yuga,unless hes as weak as ds in hand to hand. i doubt it but dont really know,. i owuld say yuga definitely defeats superman with what i know as he doesnt have the shortcomings that ds has.ps the reason ds did nothing to his father is becuz he couldnt overcome the patricide clause that orion will one day and that hes afraid of his father.
Originally posted by starkingyuga was depowering the new gods. he want defeating them with their powers. see the diff.
So if the power gap between Yuga and Seid isn't that big, then how the hell would Supes physical prowess factor in? Even if Yuga Khan was weaker than Supes in the strength department, none of that should matter, seeing how his tremendous level of power could wipe Superman out, like poop on a butthole. Do you not see the flaw in your logic?
darkseid has more power than supes but when they get close and exchange punches ds gets a bloody nose. i already said yuga wins against supes.
i dont think hes a puss like darkseid.
Originally posted by quanchi112Uhh, he depowered them with his powerset, therefor it IS a testament to his power.
yuga was depowering the new gods. he want defeating them with their powers. see the diff.
darkseid has more power than supes but when they get close and exchange punches ds gets a bloody nose. i already said yuga wins against supes.Do you know the difference between a well written Ds and a Badly written Ds? What you fail to is, Seid isn't a powerhouse in every single story he appears in. Both his character and power is dumbed down, in favor of making a shitty story. If you actually understood Ds's character and where not bias and hypocritical, you know he's no joke.
i dont think hes a puss like darkseid.
So what your implying is Ds is so wimpy, that he lets himself get the shit kicked out of him by Supes.
In your own little world, Darkseid is a joke character on par with Emperor Pilaf of Dragonball fame(and not using this as an example, I mean this in a literal sense). Darkseid isn't some dumbass, that has had his salad tossed in everyone of his appearances, starting at his first shine of light.
You know there's actually some stories that have well portrayed Darkseid's, but those appearances are non important to you, because they put him above his Marvel ripoff, which isn't a good thing in your book. 🙄 So because you said so, we'll use pieces of crap such as apokolips now and Superman/Batman, as the only examples for Darkseid...
Apparently most if not all of the people who replied to this didn't actually read the comics where Yuga Khan appeared, or the letters from the writers that were in the comics.
1. Yuga Khan only appeared in 5 comics because you can't have an all powerful being hanging around in the DC world, it just ruins it.
2. Khan killed hundreds if not thousands of New Gods (who are plainly stated in new gods volume 1 #1+2 to be more powerful than the old gods, including Thor, Zeus, Odin, Ares.......)
3. Khan is not only the most powerful of the New Gods by a ridiculous margin, he is stated in the comics to have absolute control over reality.
4. It doesn't matter what superman he comes up against, He simply generates gold kryptonite, or removes his power by exerting his control over reality, or squashes him like bug.
5. It doesn't matter what darkseid he fights because Yuga khan can depower other gods, removing the omega effect, the astral force, seperating high father from the source. He even removes every ones ability to use boom tubes or mother boxes.
6. Khan steals the life force of planets by touching them, and doesn't instantly begin to power down like Galactus. He also has no limit to the amount of power he can wield.
7. Do any of you know of any character in Marvel or DC that can destroy primal energy? That's the only way to even inflict damage on Yuga khan.
This is why Khan was only free for 5 issues, (by the way, he freed himself from the source wall, effectively proving his raw power and will to be new that of the Source itself. He was only able to be defeated by his own ambitions.
There are only two beings in all of Marvel and one in all of DC comics that can contend with Yuga Khan. The Source (complete, not split) for DC comics, although even the source was split in half by weaker gods than Yuga Khan. And the only thing in the Marvel universe that has the power to contend with Yuga Khan is "The One Above All) and perhaps the living Tribunal.
Originally posted by Hudsonda
There are only two beings in all of Marvel and one in all of DC comics that can contend with Yuga Khan. The Source (complete, not split) for DC comics, although even the source was split in half by weaker gods than Yuga Khan. And the only thing in the Marvel universe that has the power to contend with Yuga Khan is "The One Above All) and perhaps the living Tribunal.
Originally posted by guy222
stops at thanos
Originally posted by starkingIt's only related to them just like Odin taking away Thor's power has no relevance to the Silver Surfer.
Uhh, he depowered them with his powerset, therefor it IS a testament to his power.Do you know the difference between a well written Ds and a Badly written Ds? What you fail to is, Seid isn't a powerhouse in every single story he appears in. Both his character and power is dumbed down, in favor of making a shitty story. If you actually understood Ds's character and where not bias and hypocritical, you know he's no joke.
[B] So what your implying is Ds is so wimpy, that he lets himself get the shit kicked out of him by Supes.
In your own little world, Darkseid is a joke character on par with Emperor Pilaf of Dragonball fame(and not using this as an example, I mean this in a literal sense). Darkseid isn't some dumbass, that has had his salad tossed in everyone of his appearances, starting at his first shine of light.
You know there's actually some stories that have well portrayed Darkseid's, but those appearances are non important to you, because they put him above his Marvel ripoff, which isn't a good thing in your book. 🙄 So because you said so, we'll use pieces of crap such as apokolips now and Superman/Batman, as the only examples for Darkseid...
If you start picking and choosing what showings count and what don't that leads down the dark and lonely road of bias.
Darskeid isn't a puss but he isn't on the same level in terms of combat that Superman is. Not a knock on Darkseid per say but he isn't the type of combatant that Thanos has shown himself to be. We can't ignore him backing down from Doomsday or getting absolutely destroyed by him either. Thanos operates on another level well before his Imperative upgrade. Thanos doesn't even notice Surfer like power and has the stones and power to defeat a Thor who was pwning the combined tactics and might of the Infinity Watch(soul gem in particular), Dr. Strange, and the Silver Surfer with the power gem.
Originally posted by quanchi112
how he cant take theri powers form them?thanos is greater than ds and ds had the power to kill his father.
im stating what was said in a comic about ds being able to kill his father.
read the comic and ull know i dont lie.
Darkseid DID NOT HAVE the power to kill his father. Khan removed all of Darkseids godly powers the instant he arrived on Apokolips, including removing his access to the omega powers. It shows this plainly when Orion asks Darkseid why he did not destroy the hunger dogs that assaulted them.
Also, Darkseid nearly crapped himself when he learned that Khan was free. He also begged for his life blaming Dessad for the murder of hegra even though he had ordered it himself.
If you aren't actually going to read the comics, but just look up the story line, don't say that you did. Darkseid brought Orion into the dream world hoping that if orion could kill him there it would break the cosmic rule that sons cannot kill their fathers. Which by the way turned out to not be a cosmic rule at all, considering orion eventually tore out Darkseids heart with his bare hands.