Is Black panther faster then........

Originally posted by carver9
Well the reason Im saying that bp cant beat cap but can beat spiderman is because cap has already owned an upgraged spiderman twice and have beaten a non upgraded spiderman once. How many times does it take for spiderman to lose to cap for you all to understand that captain america is better.

Beast is stronger and faster than iron fist, do you think that beast can beat iron fist. When youre naming things like that you have to look at the whole of the character. Spiderman might be stronger and could be a tad faster BUT bp has on vibranium armor that could absorb almost any punch that spiderman throws at him (bp commented on how his suit was absorbing iron man punches, he still felt some of the impact though). He is just as fast as spiderman. A waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better fight than spiderman and have so many tools on him that could take spiderman out. He has enough speed and quickness to evade spiderman webbing, i would give this 5/10. The reason cap would do better is because of the shield and because he is just a better fighter than bp. Spiderman dont have that luxury. Spiderman is fighting a master tactian that knows spidermans ability and would find a way to get around spiderman spider sense.

If spiderman wasnt so weak to martial artist (not strength weak, owning weak), then yes he would do very good but strategic martial artist always gives him trouble. If silver samurai owned spiderman in 3 panels then bp shouldnt have a problem.

Ok then, so if BPs suit can absorb Spider-man's punches why not all of Caps? the shield isn't gonna help, cause Spidey can punch alot harder than Cap can hit with the shield, and it doesn't matter how good of a fighter you are if you only hit so hard if your a great fighter but your attacks have no effect then well how are you gonna win?. And don't come out with crap like nerve shots because, if the armour can absorb Iron Man punches it can absorb nerve shots as well.

And yeah Bp is fast no doubt, but everyone seems to forget Spider-man is flippin' skilled with his webbing just because it isn't as fast as a bullet doesn't mean its easily evaded, especially when it comes down in sheets. I'm not saying the fight would be easy by any means, but I would give it to Spidey 6 or 7/10 against BP.

And again Cap didn't own Spidey, they fought, both had a clear advantage in the fights at 1 point or another then it was ended, unless of course your saying that scan of BP throwing Wolverine away is clear evidence that Wolverine can't hit BP and is easily beaten to the ground? And yes Spidey has trouble with Martial artists, but he's also owned some aswell...

I dont think black panther is as fast as spiderman, is he fast enough however, sure is.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

still waiting for a black panther feat that matches it let a lone surpasses it
http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinev106817ff1uk1.jpg
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I keep hereing that black panthers so fast..........yet every time I ask for a speed feat of his the surpasses Logan I get nothing.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I keep hereing that black panthers so fast..........yet every time I ask for a speed feat of his the surpasses Logan I get nothing.

Thats a good feat capt, the only problem I see with it is, its wolverine vs humans with guns.

Humans with guns is no big deal to me these days. As always, I would rather use direct confrontations. (The two wolverine comments and panther scans)

Originally posted by Sparkz
Ok then, so if BPs suit can absorb Spider-man's punches why not all of Caps? the shield isn't gonna help, cause Spidey can punch alot harder than Cap can hit with the shield, and it doesn't matter how good of a fighter you are if you only hit so hard if your a great fighter but your attacks have no effect then well how are you gonna win?. And don't come out with crap like nerve shots because, if the armour can absorb Iron Man punches it can absorb nerve shots as well.

And yeah Bp is fast no doubt, but everyone seems to forget Spider-man is flippin' skilled with his webbing just because it isn't as fast as a bullet doesn't mean its easily evaded, especially when it comes down in sheets. I'm not saying the fight would be easy by any means, but I would give it to Spidey 6 or 7/10 against BP.

And again Cap didn't own Spidey, they fought, both had a clear advantage in the fights at 1 point or another then it was ended, unless of course your saying that scan of BP throwing Wolverine away is clear evidence that Wolverine can't hit BP and is easily beaten to the ground? And yes Spidey has trouble with Martial artists, but he's also owned some aswell...

Ok, the reason why Im saying that cap can own spiderman is because he has already done so 3 times. The next to the last fight was when they were fighting in the alley (when spidey was in his armor). Spidey specifically said, "I havent hit him once but he has hit me 3 times already. Then cap through his shield at spiderman and ended up landing a rib punch. Spiderman was on the ground hurt. If cap was ruthless, he could have went over there and ended the fight then but he didnt.

Then they fought again after that at the end of civil war and cap ended up punching spiderman through a wall, which ended the fight again. Then iron man flew over there and started fighting cap. Cap has proven to be better than spiderman. Spiderman IS stronger by far but cap is the better fighter and tactitian and has everything that spiderman has except strength (even though he is strong).

Now the reason that cap can beat bp is do to the fact that cap DOES know how to strick nerves and knows how to find weak points. His shield also cuts. Usually when bp and cap fight, they always stalemate each other and that is due to the shield on cap side and due to bp armor. They have a good defense against attacks. They have something to block punishment.

As for spiderman and bp, 5/10. I think that with peters smartness, he would find a way to get around bp armor.

Cap and spiderman, cap 6.5/10.

Originally posted by carver9
As for spiderman and bp, 5/10. I think that with peters smartness, he would find a way to get around bp armor.

Cap and spiderman, cap 6.5/10.

He wouldnt find a way around his energy daggers though.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Thats a good feat capt, the only problem I see with it is, its wolverine vs humans with guns.

Humans with guns is no big deal to me these days. As always, I would rather use direct confrontations. (The two wolverine comments and panther scans)

ya you mean like when black panther states "there is no way hecould process my jungle swiftness" only to be proven wrong?

ya nive evidence there.

Then we have the latets issue were Logan underestimates black panther......

so really you have nothing.

oh and it was written by the racist hudlin who makes black panther out to be a god...........im surprized Black panther did not simply Ko every one with a single punch

Originally posted by Battlehammer

oh and it was written by the racist hudlin who makes black panther out to be a god...........im surprized Black panther did not simply Ko every one with a single punch

This is why I dont care to debate with you capt.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
This is why I dont care to debate with you capt.

why, because he is a rabid Wolverine fanboy?

Originally posted by Apolloknight
This is why I dont care to debate with you capt.

dude makes ennis look good.

oh and please match the feat I presented or agree black panther simply just is not as fast.

By the way, you said that bp would have a hard time dodging spiderman webbing. I kinda disagree with that statement since a regular human girl dodged it (forgot the girl name that was teamed up with absorbing man), toad man did it, kraven did it, king pin has dodged it, etc....

Answer this for me, if someone came to black panther and asked him, " who would you fight first out of these 3, and he had to rank them from 1-3 who would he have as the 1st person on his list that he would fight first and that he could see himself beating. Wolverine, spiderman, or captain america.

Originally posted by masterbruce
why, because he is a rabid Wolverine fanboy?

hell you can even team up with your idol tonystark

ya im such a fanboy............yet I think spiderman vs Wolverine is 6/10 depending on the scenerio. spiderman could win more or worlverine it simply depends on the battle field

Originally posted by masterbruce
why, because he is a rabid Wolverine fanboy?

No, because he ignores and twist everything to his favor, and if its not in his favor, he attacks something else. You cant debate with people that wont shut up for two seconds and listen.

Oh, and jumping inside invisible women's force-field, and dodging a flat-out true speed blitz from whirlwind (who is without a doubt faster then wolverine), and defeating an entire new warriors line up(to include speed freak)>>>>>>>>>>then your scan with wolverine vs humans capt.

Originally posted by carver9
By the way, you said that bp would have a hard time dodging spiderman webbing. I kinda disagree with that statement since a regular human girl dodged it (forgot the girl name that was teamed up with absorbing man), toad man did it, kraven did it, king pin has dodged it, etc....

I dont think that bp is faster than logan BUT he has enough speed to surprise logan. Black panther is a great character and is full of surprises. To my knowledge he is the only street level being to ever take out the fantastic four by himself. He is a good fighter and has the ability to give wolverine trouble (and also own spiderman) but he havent proven to me yet that he is faster than wolverine. Wolverine just has done to many speed blitz his entire career, take this for example -

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/dprfla/xmen_v2_133_p03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/dprfla/xmen_v2_133_p04.jpg

Look how far he's away from this guy and look how fast he got there by the time the bullet left his face. The guy is just fast as hell.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
No, because he ignores and twist everything to his favor, and if its not in his favor, he attacks something else. You cant debate with people that wont shut up for two seconds and listen.

Oh, and jumping inside invisible women's force-field, and dodging a flat-out true speed blitz from whirlwind (who is without a doubt faster then wolverine), and defeating an entire new warriors line up(to include speed freak)>>>>>>>>>>then your scan with wolverine vs humans capt.

stating a bunch of crap means nothing to me.

you have to show evidence. Im not gunna simply take your word on the matter.

so present the feat or admitt he not as fast.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
show the evidence.

stating a bunch of crap means nothing to me.

you have to show evidence. Im not gunna simply take your word on the matter.

so present the feat or admitt he not as fast.

Dude, I've posted those feats countless times, you haven't listened or ignored them. I'll not waste my time with you and post them anymore.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
show the evidence.

stating a bunch of crap means nothing to me.

you have to show evidence. Im not gunna simply take your word on the matter.

so present the feat or admitt he not as fast.

don't you always state alot of bull faeces without posting any scans? 🙄

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Dude, I've posted those feats countless times, you haven't listened or ignored them. I'll not waste my time with you and post them anymore.

im gunan go with never.

you run becuase you know your evdience clearlly is not as good as your impling

Originally posted by NiñoAraña
i have no idea what you are talking about, involving the human girl or toad man, but Kraven has enhanced speed, and Kingpin is DEF no slouch either...

I cant think of her name but it was the girl that was teamed up with adsorbing man, shes the one that helped turn absorbing man into cocain; spiderman shot webbing at her and she side stepped ending with him saying, shes pretty fast. Toad man recently dodge spidermans webbed and then slammed him into a locamotive, when toad man was teamed up with stilt man.

Kraven aint close to being as fast as black panther.