Thor vs Cyborg Superman

I'm pretty sure that Henshaw can copy the uru hammer....however, he won't be copying Odin's enchantment to it. If he does gain control of it, he could play some serious keep away.

Not that it matters much in battle. Cyborg is literally hundreds of times faster than Thor, who isn't even on Spider-man's speed level. Henshaw could turn himself into adamantium or vibranium with no issue and is still Thor's physical superior.

There is still the fact that Borgs weaponry could easily incapacitate or outright kill Thor. The multiple body thing, will hunters, geneti-locs, customized weaponry, and physical superiority are all more than enough.

If I remember correctly...Ultron beat Thor pretty badly. Henshaw could do the same.

For all intents and purposes, Henshaw for the majority though I credit Thor with being able to pull off some wins here and there.

Originally posted by Avlon
I'm pretty sure that Henshaw can copy the uru hammer....however, he won't be copying Odin's enchantment to it. If he does gain control of it, he could play some serious keep away.

Not that it matters much in battle. Cyborg is literally hundreds of times faster than Thor, who isn't even on Spider-man's speed level. Henshaw could turn himself into adamantium or vibranium with no issue and is still Thor's physical superior.

There is still the fact that Borgs weaponry could easily incapacitate or outright kill Thor. The multiple body thing, will hunters, geneti-locs, customized weaponry, and physical superiority are all more than enough.

If I remember correctly...Ultron beat Thor pretty badly. Henshaw could do the same.

For all intents and purposes, Henshaw for the majority though I credit Thor with being able to pull off some wins here and there.

What use would a uru hammer be? Thor's carved right through uru with his finger to create him self a mallet. Without the enchantments placed by Odin uru is nothing but an extremely durable alloy.

I doubt he'd gain control of it. Simply put, Thor and Mjolnir are inseparable.

Thor's faster than Spider-Man, and yes I know about all his low feats.

Like the vast majority of his fights with top tiers, I doubt speed would pose much of a problem.

And you don't think Thor has as many ways to defeat Henshaw? Matter manipulation, energy drain(he's drained the entire energy source from a Celestial ship), god blast, anti gravity, universal warping attack, anti force, etc.

I also doubt the physical superiority would be a deciding factor of this fight.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
What use would a uru hammer be? Thor's carved right through uru with his finger to create him self a mallet. Without the enchantments placed by Odin uru is nothing but an extremely durable alloy.

I doubt he'd gain control of it. Simply put, Thor and Mjolnir are inseparable.

Thor's faster than Spider-Man, and yes I know about all his low feats.

Like the vast majority of his fights with top tiers, I doubt speed would pose much of a problem.

And you don't think Thor has as many ways to defeat Henshaw? Matter manipulation, energy drain(he's drained the entire energy source from a Celestial ship), god blast, anti gravity, universal warping attack, anti force, etc.

I also doubt the physical superiority would be a deciding factor of this fight.

Originally posted by Avlon
I'm pretty sure that Henshaw can copy the uru hammer....however, he won't be copying Odin's enchantment to it. If he does gain control of it, he could play some serious keep away.

Not that it matters much in battle. Cyborg is literally hundreds of times faster than Thor, who isn't even on Spider-man's speed level. Henshaw could turn himself into adamantium or vibranium with no issue and is still Thor's physical superior.

There is still the fact that Borgs weaponry could easily incapacitate or outright kill Thor. The multiple body thing, will hunters, geneti-locs, customized weaponry, and physical superiority are all more than enough.

If I remember correctly...Ultron beat Thor pretty badly. Henshaw could do the same.

For all intents and purposes, Henshaw for the majority though I credit Thor with being able to pull off some wins here and there.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
What use would a uru hammer be? Thor's carved right through uru with his finger to create him self a mallet. Without the enchantments placed by Odin uru is nothing but an extremely durable alloy.

Hence why I said that while he could make uru...he probably would go with a better metal or weaponry.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
I doubt he'd gain control of it. Simply put, Thor and Mjolnir are inseparable.

And why I mentioned Odin's enchantment... doesn't mean the Mjolnir couldn't be kept in an energy field and away from Thor.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
Thor's faster than Spider-Man, and yes I know about all his low feats.

Wrong. Maybe when Thor is travelling, but fighting speed? Peter will always run circles around Thor.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
Like the vast majority of his fights with top tiers, I doubt speed would pose much of a problem.

Read the forum rules. In comics people tag the flash..realistically, that wouldn't happen. Borg is hundreds of times faster than Thor will ever be.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
And you don't think Thor has as many ways to defeat Henshaw? Matter manipulation, energy drain(he's drained the entire energy source from a Celestial ship), god blast, anti gravity, universal warping attack, anti force, etc.

Henshaw can turn basketballs and etch-a-sketch's into kryptonian skin and any weapon that he thinks about. I would say he's a far better manipulator than Thor. Geneti-loc automatically turns of Thors power. Will hunters, Clones, a body stronger than adamantium with sharp edges to cut Thors skin, weapons designed to go through Thor and destroy him, sonics, the worlds weapons all shot at thor at once, etc.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
I also doubt the physical superiority would be a deciding factor of this fight.

Yes. Let's ignore that speed/strength/durability advantage.
Even without rings, Henshaw still has his own pis ability just like Thor does.
And he's still Thors physical superior. While Thor can only take so much damage, Henshaw could go basically forever.

Borg one shots, or has defeated people in Thors class easily.

It's not possible to keep Mjolnir away from the current Thor.

It was when Thor only had appearances in "journey into mystery" and early in the series, but ever since he's gotten rid of the "60 second" weakness, Mjolnir will always return to him.

Originally posted by llagrok
It's not possible to keep Mjolnir away from the current Thor.

It was when Thor only had appearances in "journey into mystery" and early in the series, but ever since he's gotten rid of the "60 second" weakness, Mjolnir will always return to him.

Henshaw is too much for odinson here... Henshaw wins 7/10.

Originally posted by Avlon
Hence why I said that while he could make uru...he probably would go with a better metal or weaponry.

And why I mentioned Odin's enchantment... doesn't mean the Mjolnir couldn't be kept in an energy field and away from Thor.

Wrong. Maybe when Thor is travelling, but fighting speed? Peter will always run circles around Thor.

Read the forum rules. In comics people tag the flash..realistically, that wouldn't happen. Borg is hundreds of times faster than Thor will ever be.

Henshaw can turn basketballs and etch-a-sketch's into kryptonian skin and any weapon that he thinks about. I would say he's a far better manipulator than Thor. Geneti-loc automatically turns of Thors power. Will hunters, Clones, a body stronger than adamantium with sharp edges to cut Thors skin, weapons designed to go through Thor and destroy him, sonics, the worlds weapons all shot at thor at once, etc.

Yes. Let's ignore that speed/strength/durability advantage.
Even without rings, Henshaw still has his own pis ability just like Thor does.
And he's still Thors physical superior. While Thor can only take so much damage, Henshaw could go basically forever.

Borg one shots, or has defeated people in Thors class easily.

Meh

Currently, Thor is can't be kept from Mjolnir. Meaning yes, Mjolnir's phased through force fields.

Nope, Thor's faster than Peter.

So I'm to ignore whats been consistently shown in comics for the benefit of your argument?

As previously stated, Thor has just as many ways, if not more to defeat Henshaw.

I doubt Henshaw would prove physically too much for Thor. You may recall the blood and thunder arc.

And Thor's defeated charcaters at or far above Henshaws lv.

Like who?

Originally posted by Sirius77
Like who?

Surfer, Dr. Strange, Mangog, Surtur, Ymir, stalemated Zeus for months, stalemated classic Stranger, defeated Galactus, Adam Warlock, etc.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
Meh

Currently, Thor is can't be kept from Mjolnir. Meaning yes, Mjolnir's phased through force fields.

Nope, Thor's faster than Peter.

So I'm to ignore whats been consistently shown in comics for the benefit of your argument?

As previously stated, Thor has just as many ways, if not more to defeat Henshaw.

I doubt Henshaw would prove physically too much for Thor. You may recall the blood and thunder arc.

And Thor's defeated charcaters at or far above Henshaws lv.

Thor has never and will never be faster than Peter in a fight. Sorry dude.

As previously stated, Henshaw has many ways to defeat Thor and is physically superior to begin with...

And Mjolnir can be separated from Thor...especially long enough to for Henshaw to do some nasty things to him.

And classic Ultron has beaten Thor before.

Originally posted by Avlon
Thor has never and will never be faster than Peter in a fight. Sorry dude.

As previously stated, Henshaw has many ways to defeat Thor and is physically superior to begin with...

And Mjolnir can be separated from Thor...especially long enough to for Henshaw to do some nasty things to him.

And classic Ultron has beaten Thor before.

Nope.

Do I need to state the obvious again?

Give me one instance after the 60 second enchantment was lifted in which Thor wanted Mjolnir, and was unable to obtain it.

As has many others. Doesn't take away from what Thor's done while operating at his best. You know, the defeating and nearly killing of Galactus, crushing of Celestial domes on multiple occasions, engaging Celestials in actual battles, the warping of the universe, etc.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
Nope.

Do I need to state the obvious again?

Give me one instance after the 60 second enchantment was lifted in which Thor wanted Mjolnir, and was unable to obtain it.

As has many others. Doesn't take away from what Thor's done while operating at his best. You know, the defeating and nearly killing of Galactus, crushing of Celestial domes on multiple occasions, engaging Celestials in actual battles, the warping of the universe, etc.

Oh god damn it. Stop bringing up the Celestial feats. They're massive PIS. 🙄

Galactus was hungry (IE: jobbing).

Surfer, Dr. Strange, Mangog, Surtur, Ymir, stalemated Zeus for months, stalemated classic Stranger, defeated Galactus, Adam Warlock, etc.

Dr. Strange? If you mean Warrior Madness, Strange jobbed. Nuff said.

Mangog was BFRed.

Surtur? 🤨 Ymir? 🤨 **** no he didn't beat them in a straight fight.

Zeus would have won.

Stranger? Not sure.

You are overrating Thor and refusing to acknowledge how difficult it is to actually beat Henshaw. 😉

Thor has the ability and vesatility to beat almost anyone. Just ask galactus and ego the planet and a celestial and silver surfer.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor has the ability and vesatility to beat almost anyone. Just ask galactus and ego the planet and a celestial and silver surfer.

PIS/jobbing, I'll give you Ego, Celestial was outright PIS, and yes, he can Surfer.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Oh god damn it. Stop bringing up the Celestial feats. They're massive PIS. 🙄

Galactus was hungry (IE: jobbing).

Surfer, Dr. Strange, Mangog, Surtur, Ymir, stalemated Zeus for months, stalemated classic Stranger, defeated Galactus, Adam Warlock, etc.

Dr. Strange? If you mean Warrior Madness, Strange jobbed. Nuff said.

Mangog was BFRed.

Surtur? 🤨 Ymir? 🤨 **** no he didn't beat them in a straight fight.

Zeus would have won.

Stranger? Not sure.

You are overrating Thor and refusing to acknowledge how difficult it is to actually beat Henshaw. 😉

Why? He's operated on that lv before. Like Superman, Thor tends to rise to the challenge. Whether or not you choose to accept that is not my problem.

You know how Thor found Galactus? By the remnants left from a trail of eaten planets.

How is it considered jobbing? It's consistent with what happens when Thor uses the godblast.

So your excuse for all his feats is that his opponents jobbed? It's due time you stop using jobbing as a crutch and learn to debate.

Mangog's brains were blown out with an anti force blast.

When did BFR not become a win?

He would have won if what, if Thor didn't stalemate him?

I'm sure.

Your discounting all Thor's feats as PIS without any real knowledge of the character.

Um, I never said Thor would take the majority.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
PIS/jobbing, I'll give you Ego, Celestial was outright PIS, and yes, he can Surfer.

Stop. Your getting annoying.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
PIS/jobbing, I'll give you Ego, Celestial was outright PIS, and yes, he can Surfer.

Well i guess thor entire career is pis since he has been doing things like this since his creation. What about him owning the destroyer, thats pis also.

How many times does thor has to beat a celestial before its no called pis because he did it more than one time. Thor has beaten the best, deal with it. 😂

Originally posted by carver9
Thor has beaten the best, deal with it. 😂

Wait, when did Thor solo TOAA and the Living Tribunal?

😕.