Btw, I feel the banning of Estacado was wrong and unfair. Him getting restricted before Quanchi is injustice at it's finest. Not that I'm trying to put the mods down or anything, I just think their overlooking the REAL problem and instead focusing on how one reacts, to anothers ridiculousness. If you look at how civil the forum was, prior to Quan's arrival, you'll see what I mean....
Damn bottom of the page...
Originally posted by darthgoober
I honestly fail to see what quan has done to deserve the amount of shit that gets talked about him. I mean, yes he prefers Thanos over Darkseid and enjoys pointing out low showings for DS, but how is that different than most of the posters here in the vs Forum? Who here DOESN'T like to make jabs at people we perceive to be fanboys when people like Hulk, Storm or Wolverine when they have a poor showing? How many posters can you think of that DON'T have a tendency to over estimate one character that they favor and underestimate one that the disfavor? If you disagree with him, trying actually proving him wrong for a change. Don't just point him to the DS respect thread and expect for him to roll over to your way of thinking, bring an actual argument to the table and counter his points with points of your own. People around here are becoming lazy and would rather people just agree with what they say than engage in an actual debate. The reason I think that of course is because every time I start posting in a thread where quan is posting and ask for proof that counters his points, NO ONE is ever willing or able to produce the slightest bit of proof to back up the claims being made about DS. Everyone just stops posting until ANOTHER thread comes around and the whole damn thing starts all over again.Don't get me wrong, I can see the bait that quan lays out for DS fans and I'm not endorsing the practice, but I just don't see him as being any worse than certain posters who've been doing the exact same thing for YEARS(in some cases) and never caught this kind of grief.
Originally posted by darthgooberIt's not just that, he flat out ignores what others tell him, and deliberately disagrees on something that shouldn't be up for debate(Spectre vs Dorhammu?). If he didn't stretch out arguments to such great and unproductive lengths, it wouldn't be that bad, but....
I honestly fail to see what quan has done to deserve the amount of shit that gets talked about him. I mean, yes he prefers Thanos over Darkseid and enjoys pointing out low showings for DS, but how is that different than most of the posters here in the vs Forum? Who here DOESN'T like to make jabs at people we perceive to be fanboys when people like Hulk, Storm or Wolverine when they have a poor showing? How many posters can you think of that DON'T have a tendency to over estimate one character that they favor and underestimate one that the disfavor? If you disagree with him, trying actually proving him wrong for a change. Don't just point him to the DS respect thread and expect for him to roll over to your way of thinking, bring an actual argument to the table and counter his points with points of your own. People around here are becoming lazy and would rather people just agree with what they say than engage in an actual debate. The reason I think that of course is because every time I start posting in a thread where quan is posting and ask for proof that counters his points, NO ONE is ever willing or able to produce the slightest bit of proof to back up the claims being made about DS. Everyone just stops posting until ANOTHER thread comes around and the whole damn thing starts all over again.Don't get me wrong, I can see the bait that quan lays out for DS fans and I'm not endorsing the practice, but I just don't see him as being any worse than certain posters who've been doing the exact same thing for YEARS(in some cases) and never caught this kind of grief.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I honestly fail to see what quan has done to deserve the amount of shit that gets talked about him. I mean, yes he prefers Thanos over Darkseid and enjoys pointing out low showings for DS, but how is that different than most of the posters here in the vs Forum? Who here DOESN'T like to make jabs at people we perceive to be fanboys when people like Hulk, Storm or Wolverine when they have a poor showing? How many posters can you think of that DON'T have a tendency to over estimate one character that they favor and underestimate one that the disfavor? If you disagree with him, trying actually proving him wrong for a change. Don't just point him to the DS respect thread and expect for him to roll over to your way of thinking, bring an actual argument to the table and counter his points with points of your own. People around here are becoming lazy and would rather people just agree with what they say than engage in an actual debate. The reason I think that of course is because every time I start posting in a thread where quan is posting and ask for proof that counters his points, NO ONE is ever willing or able to produce the slightest bit of proof to back up the claims being made about DS. Everyone just stops posting until ANOTHER thread comes around and the whole damn thing starts all over again.Don't get me wrong, I can see the bait that quan lays out for DS fans and I'm not endorsing the practice, but I just don't see him as being any worse than certain posters who've been doing the exact same thing for YEARS(in some cases) and never caught this kind of grief.
i'm saying our profound users should't be yelled at or accused for anything, or banned if it was provoked by quan. If he baits, then he's equally responsible, and obviously has whatever he has coimg to him
Originally posted by starking
It's not just that, he flat out ignores what others tell him, and deliberately disagrees on something that shouldn't be up for debate(Spectre vs Dorhammu?). If he didn't stretch out arguments to such great and unproductive lengths, it wouldn't be that bad, but....
There's a very simple solution to this whole thing. If he baits you, ignore it. Prove your side and let the onlookers decide for themselves who's correct.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I understand all that, but haven't you noticed how much worse it's gotten since people started giving him Hell? People started giving him a hard time because he refused to accept that DS's showings against Supes were PIS, so he started baiting people and intentionally pissing them off. Then they started doing the same back to him, and thus the cycle was born. What would have been better, would be if people had actually tried to PROVE that DS's losses were PIS rather than just call quan an idiot for not taking their word at face value.There's a very simple solution to this whole thing. If he baits you, ignore it. Prove your side and let the onlookers decide for themselves who's correct.
again we have very profound members who take this stuff to heart...
Originally posted by darthgooberEven in your recollection, Quan started trolling.
I understand all that, but haven't you noticed how much worse it's gotten since people started giving him Hell? People started giving him a hard time because he refused to accept that DS's showings against Supes were PIS, so he started baiting people and intentionally pissing them off. Then they started doing the same back to him, and thus the cycle was born. What would have been better, would be if people had actually tried to PROVE that DS's losses were PIS rather than just call quan an idiot for not taking their word at face value.There's a very simple solution to this whole thing. If he baits you, ignore it. Prove your side and let the onlookers decide for themselves who's correct.
you know as well as anyone else that we have brought up tons of DS feats (DS is just a drop in the bucket, he puts down every DC character in a thread) and all he does is repeat a low end feat over and over again. He doesnt post anything useful and instead of countering a point he repeats himself over and over again. Dont act like you dont know what were talking about, cause youre very well aware what seperates him from everyone else.
Either way im done talking about it
Originally posted by darthgoober
I honestly fail to see what quan has done to deserve the amount of shit that gets talked about him. I mean, yes he prefers Thanos over Darkseid and enjoys pointing out low showings for DS, but how is that different than most of the posters here in the vs Forum? Who here DOESN'T like to make jabs at people we perceive to be fanboys when people like Hulk, Storm or Wolverine when they have a poor showing? How many posters can you think of that DON'T have a tendency to over estimate one character that they favor and underestimate one that the disfavor? If you disagree with him, trying actually proving him wrong for a change. Don't just point him to the DS respect thread and expect for him to roll over to your way of thinking, bring an actual argument to the table and counter his points with points of your own. People around here are becoming lazy and would rather people just agree with what they say than engage in an actual debate. The reason I think that of course is because every time I start posting in a thread where quan is posting and ask for proof that counters his points, NO ONE is ever willing or able to produce the slightest bit of proof to back up the claims being made about DS. Everyone just stops posting until ANOTHER thread comes around and the whole damn thing starts all over again.Don't get me wrong, I can see the bait that quan lays out for DS fans and I'm not endorsing the practice, but I just don't see him as being any worse than certain posters who've been doing the exact same thing for YEARS(in some cases) and never caught this kind of grief.
It's the way that he debates that infuriates me the most. He's always contradicting himself and refuses to answer any questions. He always claims that his speculations are as good as facts, even though they're exactly the opposite of what's correct. Even when we show several scans that prove him wrong, he completely ignores them.
And there's always the annoying obsession he has with insulting characters, or trying downgrade them in some ridiculous way. If it's Galactus vs Silver Surfer, Quanchi wouldn't say "The Silver Surfer loses" but something like;
"Pathetic ass Surfer doesnt stand aganst galactus might. Surfer is a week pathethic loser who can't even beat The runner."
Which is just so completely unnecessary and uncalled for. While not particularly serious, it's an obvious attempt at infuriating some Silver Surfer fans, or something in that manner. There are worse members on the board, but Quanchi definitely deserves a perm ban. I know it would make the board a lot more pleasant.
Originally posted by llagrok
It's the way that he debates that infuriates me the most. He's always contradicting himself and refuses to answer any questions. He always claims that his speculations are as good as facts, even though they're exactly the opposite of what's correct. Even when we show several scans that prove him wrong, he completely ignores them.And there's always the annoying obsession he has with insulting characters, or trying downgrade them in some ridiculous way. If it's Galactus vs Silver Surfer, Quanchi wouldn't say "The Silver Surfer loses" but something like;
"Pathetic ass Surfer doesnt stand aganst galactus might. Surfer is a week pathethic loser who can't even beat The runner."
Which is just so completely unnecessary and uncalled for. While not particularly serious, it's an obvious attempt at infuriating some Silver Surfer fans, or something in that manner. There are worse members on the board, but Quanchi definitely deserves a perm ban. I know it would make the board a lot more pleasant.
And that's truly what it comes down to.
Originally posted by darthgooberWell, your missing something. People like myself had try to explain to him, how his interpretations are off.
I understand all that, but haven't you noticed how much worse it's gotten since people started giving him Hell? People started giving him a hard time because he refused to accept that DS's showings against Supes were PIS, so he started baiting people and intentionally pissing them off. Then they started doing the same back to him, and thus the cycle was born. What would have been better, would be if people had actually tried to PROVE that DS's losses were PIS rather than just call quan an idiot for not taking their word at face value.There's a very simple solution to this whole thing. If he baits you, ignore it. Prove your side and let the onlookers decide for themselves who's correct.
Your also forgetting that the cycle is started by Quanchi, and it's only in human nature for one to retaliate. If your starting some shit just to bait people, then your wrong for being manipulative. A cycle has a beginning, and it's about time we pull the plug on the source.
Originally posted by Rufus T Firefly
i'm saying our profound users should't be yelled at or accused for anything, or banned if it was provoked by quan. If he baits, then he's equally responsible, and obviously has whatever he has coimg to him
Anyone who's been a member for more than 6 months should know that there are some people that are just impossible for them to get along or agree with, which is what the ignore button is for.
Originally posted by llagrok
It's the way that he debates that infuriates me the most. He's always contradicting himself and refuses to answer any questions. He always claims that his speculations are as good as facts, even though they're exactly the opposite of what's correct. Even when we show several scans that prove him wrong, he completely ignores them.And there's always the annoying obsession he has with insulting characters, or trying downgrade them in some ridiculous way. If it's Galactus vs Silver Surfer, Quanchi wouldn't say "The Silver Surfer loses" but something like;
"Pathetic ass Surfer doesnt stand aganst galactus might. Surfer is a week pathethic loser who can't even beat The runner."
Which is just so completely unnecessary and uncalled for. While not particularly serious, it's an obvious attempt at infuriating some Silver Surfer fans, or something in that manner. There are worse members on the board, but Quanchi definitely deserves a perm ban. I know it would make the board a lot more pleasant.
i agree, he's great at how he does it, and most people actually take the bait =/
Originally posted by llagrokCo-sign
It's the way that he debates that infuriates me the most. He's always contradicting himself and refuses to answer any questions. He always claims that his speculations are as good as facts, even though they're exactly the opposite of what's correct. Even when we show several scans that prove him wrong, he completely ignores them.And there's always the annoying obsession he has with insulting characters, or trying downgrade them in some ridiculous way. If it's Galactus vs Silver Surfer, Quanchi wouldn't say "The Silver Surfer loses" but something like;
"Pathetic ass Surfer doesnt stand aganst galactus might. Surfer is a week pathethic loser who can't even beat The runner."
Which is just so completely unnecessary and uncalled for. While not particularly serious, it's an obvious attempt at infuriating some Silver Surfer fans, or something in that manner. There are worse members on the board, but Quanchi definitely deserves a perm ban. I know it would make the board a lot more pleasant.
Originally posted by Soljer
Woah! Estacado got banned?I know he got warned several times for some (very) moderate flaming...
But..
Whatever, it's temporary, right?
Initially only 2 days. It got extended to a week for his socking under 'Buff Vader'. He'll be back. But how long until you or I get banned as well? srsly There is a very bad precedent being set here.